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I had a feeling the episode would be called something like that actually I said to my dad it would be called "Something Wicked This Way Comes" :laugh:

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I don't get it, why don't Cuse and Lindelof just say, "These are the six." They beat around the bush so much in their build up to revealing the six, only to say, "ABC did it for us, moving on." They talked for a good three minutes about it.... sheesh.

Anyways, other than that it was a good podcast, but I can't stand that guy who starts and ends the podcasts... his voice drives me nuts to the point where I want to punch him so he'll shut up.

I don't get it, why don't Cuse and Lindelof just say, "These are the six." They beat around the bush so much in their build up to revealing the six, only to say, "ABC did it for us, moving on." They talked for a good three minutes about it.... sheesh.

Anyways, other than that it was a good podcast, but I can't stand that guy who starts and ends the podcasts... his voice drives me nuts to the point where I want to punch him so he'll shut up.

Yeah he is pretty much annoying.

Not really because we are getting answers.

Answers ? to what questions? I got no answers.... nothing I didn't know about...

What questions were actually answered? nothing important, nothing we didn't see coming.

IMO Ben is true evil, he had Karl and Alex's mom killed (tho possible shes not dead yet, she survived for a long time alone on the island for a reason greater than dying like that)

Charles Whidmore doesn't plan to kill 815 survivors because just like the chopper pilot said, he thinks they are dead.

Someone related to Ben staged the fake plane remains, they have huge resources as we already seen.

There is another spy on the boat, maybe even the captain, he wasn't surprised at all when Sayid told him everything.

Miles might be a spy as well, everything he does seems to fit to Ben's plans.

Mr Friendly jammed the gun, fact is that Mr Friendly himself is dead.

Those are my thoughts

I added the tags just in case, and yea I know Friendly died later (or earlier, depends on what time frame you base yourself)

Do we actually know what power the island has?

I meant Power as in to the barracks i.e the tempest.

I meant Power as in to the barracks i.e the tempest.

Oh that :)

but will you agree with me that it was a given? that there is a power station on the island? its called the tempest, thats pretty much it.

I must say tho that I'm happey with no real answers, let the plot thicken and go on, i'll wait.

I'm really happy with that episode, its about time we got some answers!

- You can't kill yourself off the island, the island won't allow it

- The top others can get off the island when they like

- The others allowed Walt to go back to normal life

- People who aren't the oceanic 6 are allowed off the island, but can't reveal themselves due to the press of it

- Getting off the island does not equal the end of that characters saga

What I really liked about it was the fact they finally confirmed the island is magical, atleast now we know theres no point trying to find some scientific explanations to what things are (smokie, the room with what you want in it).

Maybe i'm way off guys but i understood something totally different. The island is powerless if you're not on it. The gun Michael bought is gone after the fight, Mr. Friendly gives him a new gun BUT the fire-pin is broken! That's way the gun didn't fire. Nothing magical about it!

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Maybe i'm way off guys but i understood something totally different. The island is powerless if you're not on it. The gun Michael bought is gone after the fight, Mr. Friendly gives him a new gun BUT the fire-pin is broken! That's way the gun didn't fire. Nothing magical about it!

We already have other evidence of the island stopping suicide. The car crash that happened when Jack was going to jump off the bridge in 'Through the Looking Glass'.

IMO Ben is true evil, he had Karl and Alex's mom killed (tho possible shes not dead yet, she survived for a long time alone on the island for a reason greater than dying like that)

Remember the chopper left the ship for a while? I'm guessing he dropped those soldiers on the island and they're off to begin the killing.

Remember the chopper left the ship for a while? I'm guessing he dropped those soldiers on the island and they're off to begin the killing.

Yeah thats what I mentioned on my blog I think its the dude that was clay pigeon shooting.

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