+Peewee210 Subscriber¹ Posted May 9, 2008 Subscriber¹ Share Posted May 9, 2008 (edited) But this season has been amazing so far. LOVE IT!! Couldn't agree more, this has been the best season. I found Season 3 frustrating, many questions and it was kind of slow paced, also Nikki and Paulo didn't help :rolleyes: Edited May 9, 2008 by Peewee210 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/584452-lost-season-4/page/117/#findComment-589388126 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rappy Veteran Posted May 9, 2008 Author Veteran Share Posted May 9, 2008 Couldn't agree more, this has been the best season. I found Season 3 frustracting, many questions and it was kind of slow paced, also Nikki and Paulo didn't help :rolleyes: Agreed but then again Rose and Ber...wait no I will officially announce now a Rappy EXCLUSIVE I do not mind Bernard now but Rose she's still borderline with me. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/584452-lost-season-4/page/117/#findComment-589388145 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Peewee210 Subscriber¹ Posted May 9, 2008 Subscriber¹ Share Posted May 9, 2008 Agreed but then again Rose and Ber...wait no I will officially announce now a Rappy EXCLUSIVE I do not mind Bernard now but Rose she's still borderline with me. Oh my days! :rofl: But apparently they have a "kick ass" story line coming up, i read that like last season Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/584452-lost-season-4/page/117/#findComment-589388173 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurmoth Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 I think that Richard is a time traveler, like Ben. A time traveler? I don't think so. The time travel that they've introduced us to isn't typical time travel, it is ONLY conscious time travel, meaning their body doesn't transport, only their mind does. Remember Desmond, when he time traveled his body when comatose in when went back and forth. Even if Richard is time traveling, based on the time travel they've introduced us to, his body would still have to be in that particular place and age for it work. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/584452-lost-season-4/page/117/#findComment-589388242 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePitt Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 the thing here is... they have to move the island. but which one? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/584452-lost-season-4/page/117/#findComment-589388260 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shasoosh Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 Well, I think its a totally different time traveling. Like i said before: + 1 to Time Travel1. They killed Alex 2. Ben entered the secret room and i think that's the place he time travels from. He could have time traveled to the desert (and then the Sahara desert scene starts) but it makes more sense if he time traveled to England to see Charles Widmore *Throws badge to Kate* The island has a thing with "time". I don't think it ends just with conscious time travel. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/584452-lost-season-4/page/117/#findComment-589388269 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Peewee210 Subscriber¹ Posted May 9, 2008 Subscriber¹ Share Posted May 9, 2008 (edited) Yeah its not all time travel. Remember Christian said to Locke that the freighter team are heading back towards the island, how the hell will he know that? There has been a lot of stuff like (try and think of more examples later) which makes you think "How did they know that if its just happend?" Think Jacob/Island somehow knows the future with Losties and freighter team going in present time, the body washing up on the shore linked to a "Time flux" of some sort? If this makes any sense. Edited May 9, 2008 by Peewee210 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/584452-lost-season-4/page/117/#findComment-589388298 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylejn Posted May 9, 2008 Share Posted May 9, 2008 A time traveler? I don't think so. The time travel that they've introduced us to isn't typical time travel, it is ONLY conscious time travel, meaning their body doesn't transport, only their mind does. Remember Desmond, when he time traveled his body when comatose in when went back and forth.Even if Richard is time traveling, based on the time travel they've introduced us to, his body would still have to be in that particular place and age for it work. What about the doctor? He was killed by Keame after his body was found by the Losties on the island. His body physically traveled back in time. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/584452-lost-season-4/page/117/#findComment-589388343 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rappy Veteran Posted May 10, 2008 Author Veteran Share Posted May 10, 2008 the thing here is... they have to move the island. but which one? The whole location really but how thats the question. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/584452-lost-season-4/page/117/#findComment-589388373 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundayx Veteran Posted May 10, 2008 Veteran Share Posted May 10, 2008 If John can subconsciously know portions of the future, what does the drawing on the wall in his childhood home signify? He dies in an explosion? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/584452-lost-season-4/page/117/#findComment-589388431 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shasoosh Posted May 10, 2008 Share Posted May 10, 2008 If John can subconsciously know portions of the future, what does the drawing on the wall in his childhood home signify? He dies in an explosion? I was sure it was smoky. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/584452-lost-season-4/page/117/#findComment-589388438 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted May 10, 2008 Subscriber² Share Posted May 10, 2008 I was sure it was smoky. Yeah I thought that too. Good episode anyway. Are we on a break now before the next episode? :( :/ Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/584452-lost-season-4/page/117/#findComment-589388453 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rappy Veteran Posted May 10, 2008 Author Veteran Share Posted May 10, 2008 Yeah I thought that too.Good episode anyway. Are we on a break now before the next episode? :( :/ No there is a new episode next week its part 1 of the finale...then theres a 2 week break. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/584452-lost-season-4/page/117/#findComment-589388465 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted May 10, 2008 Subscriber² Share Posted May 10, 2008 No there is a new episode next week its part 1 of the finale...then theres a 2 week break. Ah right, still bugger off to these breaks :( Good thing though, I'll be in America next week so I'll get to see Lost on time :woot: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/584452-lost-season-4/page/117/#findComment-589388467 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurmoth Posted May 10, 2008 Share Posted May 10, 2008 What about the doctor? He was killed by Keame after his body was found by the Losties on the island. His body physically traveled back in time. That wasn't time travel though. The island itself is physically in the future, I wouldn't consider that time travel. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/584452-lost-season-4/page/117/#findComment-589388675 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmac1328 Posted May 10, 2008 Share Posted May 10, 2008 That wasn't time travel though. The island itself is physically in the future, I wouldn't consider that time travel. Fair enough, but i'm at a loss in one respect. Sayid leaves on the boat before the doctor is killed. Why wouldn't he have showed up on the island already abiding by that theory? Seems like a boat would move faster than a floating body. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/584452-lost-season-4/page/117/#findComment-589388690 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurmoth Posted May 10, 2008 Share Posted May 10, 2008 Fair enough, but i'm at a loss in one respect. Sayid leaves on the boat before the doctor is killed. Why wouldn't he have showed up on the island already abiding by that theory? Seems like a boat would move faster than a floating body. That's something I can't answer. But we know that the island is in the future, Daniel's experiment and the body proves it. We just don't fully understand the mythology yet. Plus, that could just be a production mistake. Maybe they hadn't thought of that. Who knows at this point? Maybe Sayid falls asleep or something lol Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/584452-lost-season-4/page/117/#findComment-589388701 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob2687 Posted May 10, 2008 Share Posted May 10, 2008 (edited) If Sayid followed the right bearing that the captain gave he would reach the island and avoid whatever anomaly doodad or barrier around the island. The floating corpse could have encountered some pretty strange crap before it reached the island. There's clearly some way of entering and leaving the island without running the risk of being transdimensionally morphed into a turnip or something. Edited May 10, 2008 by Rob2687 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/584452-lost-season-4/page/117/#findComment-589388710 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattrobs Posted May 10, 2008 Share Posted May 10, 2008 Keame knows about the smoke monster. At about 4:00, when the helicopter arrives, he mentions someone's smoke threw him 50 feet in the air... Anyone get that? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/584452-lost-season-4/page/117/#findComment-589388753 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathachew Veteran Posted May 10, 2008 Veteran Share Posted May 10, 2008 A time traveler? I don't think so. The time travel that they've introduced us to isn't typical time travel, it is ONLY conscious time travel, meaning their body doesn't transport, only their mind does. Remember Desmond, when he time traveled his body when comatose in when went back and forth.Even if Richard is time traveling, based on the time travel they've introduced us to, his body would still have to be in that particular place and age for it work. To add to this, why would Richard need to visit Locke when he's an infant? To what purpose does that serve? Why not just go to him for the very first time when he's a kid if he's capable? From a logical stand point, him going to Locke when he's an infant accomplishes nothing if he can travel through time. Him being immortal or very slowly ages, however, does, since he can't just go to him later, but can check on him in the present (whenever the present is). Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/584452-lost-season-4/page/117/#findComment-589388807 Share on other sites More sharing options...
episode Posted May 10, 2008 Share Posted May 10, 2008 (edited) Keame knows about the smoke monster. At about 4:00, when the helicopter arrives, he mentions someone's smoke threw him 50 feet in the air... Anyone get that? Pretty sure he said something like 'a pillar of black smoke'. Heres a question I haven't seen: Where is Alex? To add to this, why would Richard need to visit Locke when he's an infant? To what purpose does that serve? Why not just go to him for the very first time when he's a kid if he's capable? From a logical stand point, him going to Locke when he's an infant accomplishes nothing if he can travel through time. Him being immortal or very slowly ages, however, does, since he can't just go to him later, but can check on him in the present (whenever the present is). To make sure that Locke survived the birth, probably. And another thing: Are we going to get a scene where Abaddon convinces the guy at the tour place to not allow Locke on the walkabout? I think we will ... Edited May 10, 2008 by episode Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/584452-lost-season-4/page/117/#findComment-589388953 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 10, 2008 Share Posted May 10, 2008 Heres a question I haven't seen:Where is Alex? Erm, dead? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/584452-lost-season-4/page/117/#findComment-589389245 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rappy Veteran Posted May 10, 2008 Author Veteran Share Posted May 10, 2008 Keame knows about the smoke monster. At about 4:00, when the helicopter arrives, he mentions someone's smoke threw him 50 feet in the air... Anyone get that? I don't really think he knows what himself is going on about because how do you explain to someone a pillar of smoke picked you up, the thing on his arm is probably a bomb where if smokey grabs him he will blow himself up. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/584452-lost-season-4/page/117/#findComment-589389418 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beastage Posted May 10, 2008 Share Posted May 10, 2008 Erm wtf, who is Abaddon - it means doom or more accurate to say oblivion (from the root of Lost) in hebrew - ??? and I think the pilot (I keep forgeting his name) said that fake airplane is not widmore doing Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/584452-lost-season-4/page/117/#findComment-589389477 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rappy Veteran Posted May 10, 2008 Author Veteran Share Posted May 10, 2008 Erm wtf, who is Abaddon (it means doom in hebrew) ??? and I think the pilot (I keep forgeting his name) said that fake airplane is not widmore doing Abbadon has a few roles, he was the Oceanic Airlines Lawyer when he visited Hurley in Santa Rosa and then he recruited Naomi and the gang to go to the Island so he could be working for Widmore. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/584452-lost-season-4/page/117/#findComment-589389480 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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