Big Suprise in Leopard?


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Well they would lose big time on their hardware... and we know they are making much profit on that.

Before buying a Mac, I've tried to install OS X on a PC. I regretted it... maybe it's changed (as it was one year ago), but I had no sound, no graphics acceleration, poor wireless connection support, a poor boot process, etc... I really don't recommend doing that :(

Anyway, the designs of the Macs are so killer nowadays and they have everything included that many people seem forget about (bluetooth, Firewire 2, airport, isight, etc.) I don't see why someone would try building a PC tower and install OS X in it.

It's been said lots of times... Apple would go bankrupt if they did that.

Nonsense. Apple has the iPod, it has the Cinema Displays, it has the very desirable hardware (last time I checked Dell, HP and Gateway still make money), it has the iPhone, it has the iTunes Music Store, etc. Now is the perfect time to set aim for the PC market because they have so many other lines of business that they can turn to should there be a problem. With Apple's BootCamp software it can happily co-exist with Windows, making it a much easier sell for people that like OSX but don't want to be tied into Mac hardware.

There is no doubt it would seriously change their business model but with Vista yet to establish itself, and with many negative write-ups at the moment, if Apple pull off a successful launch then they could become a serious player overnight, instead of the fringe player they currently are.

People always pick on OSX because its Apple, but in reality, if any single OS turns out to be a desktop Windows killer, it'd be OSX. All its missing is native win32 compatibility (and of course, I include DirectX in that), and then we have a great contender. Games are pretty much the only reason I dualboot my imac. I use Google Apps for my email/document stuff, and itunes is already available. There's not much else I do that demands Win32.

And by native, I don't mean purchasing Cedega each month, I mean native as in 'included on the install CD by default and free to use/update'.

There are really quite good points and advantages that Apple would gain... Its really perfect business logic and perfect time for Apple to start selling OSX without the hardware.. check my blogpost and the observations I had made here a while back.

If this is the surprise, then wherez the line outside Apple stores... Im gonna be there for sure!!

You have no clue what you're talking about. This point has been dealt with before - far too many times before, in fact.

This whole idea of opening up OS X to every platform should be put to rest once and for all. It's utterly ridiculous, and smacks of business-suicide. Apple hardware + OS X exclusively is a winning combination. it's what keeps the whole experience not only unique, but also stable and by and large worry-free.

The next person who suggests opening up OS X in such a manner deserves a flying leg-drop. Enough already.

+1 for the drivers issue. It's better to have less drivers to be busy with. Otherwise it becomes chaos and it's next to impossible to manage. Microsoft already demonstrates it, and it's not really their fault either, as nobody would do a correct management of dozens of thousands of drivers.

You have no clue what you're talking about. This point has been dealt with before - far too many times before, in fact.

This whole idea of opening up OS X to every platform should be put to rest once and for all. It's utterly ridiculous, and smacks of business-suicide. Apple hardware + OS X exclusively is a winning combination. it's what keeps the whole experience not only unique, but also stable and by and large worry-free.

The next person who suggests opening up OS X in such a manner deserves a flying leg-drop. Enough already.

Now I know what the Apple cult is like... They just want their own thing... Selfish?? Is that the word Im looking for??

i think selfish is completely the wrong word. what we want is a stable and secure system with no driver issues and so on. We want it to run seemlessly with our hardware and while i don't think there is much premium nowadays apple users have always been willing to pay a premium for that. not unlike those who want the best sports cars.

I personally don't care if apple releases OS X to any hardware in terms of the idea of it running on non-apple hardware. but i don't want any of the problems that come with that.

As it has already been stated Apple is a hardware company whether that be computers, ipods or even phones, it makes the bulk of it's money from hardware. using iTunes as an argument it ridiculous since there is next to nothing to be made in that for Apple, it is there to legitimise the iPod with legal music.

now back onto the topic of big surprise, I find it unlikely we will get anything without ADC member testing but i wouldn't put it past Apple. I just hope that if there are any surprises that they are well tested by the time it is in our hands, last thing we want is a buggy release like what the iphone received with the 1.1.1 which has been bricking even unmodified phones due to what appears to be rushed developement and not enough testing.

Leopard will likely be released on the 26th. As for a surprise? I highly doubt it. I'd be happy if they surprise us by releasing something thats more polished than the crap they are giving the testers. The OS is good, but ugh, I can't get over the GUI, ah well.

Leopard will likely be released on the 26th. As for a surprise? I highly doubt it. I'd be happy if they surprise us by releasing something thats more polished than the crap they are giving the testers. The OS is good, but ugh, I can't get over the GUI, ah well.

Too bad the GUI won't be changed. If you don't like it, don't use Leopard or get something like Shapeshifter, simple as that. But I for one much prefer the new GUI to the inconsistent crap that was Tiger.

+1 for the drivers issue. It's better to have less drivers to be busy with. Otherwise it becomes chaos and it's next to impossible to manage. Microsoft already demonstrates it, and it's not really their fault either, as nobody would do a correct management of dozens of thousands of drivers.

Strangely OS's like Linux and FreeBSD don't have any problems regarding drivers and system stability. It comes down to faulty design in Windows when it comes to drivers (most likely the part where drivers and kernel interact). So it really is Microsoft's fault since other OS's don't have that problem.

Strangely OS's like Linux and FreeBSD don't have any problems regarding drivers and system stability. It comes down to faulty design in Windows when it comes to drivers (most likely the part where drivers and kernel interact). So it really is Microsoft's fault since other OS's don't have that problem.

No, it's not.

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