Battlestar Galactica Season 4

[ATGC]

I knew this episode was going to happen, a purely religious/spiritual one. However, it was incredibly boring! Probably the worst episode since The Woman King.

5/10 :sleep:

[gigapixels Veteran]

I highly disagree. I thought that while not much action happened, it was very... unsettling to see what was going on in the fleet. I think it was an important episode at least, even if you didn't like it too much.

[cbosdell]

It was pretty good and necessary but was just average/above average. I would rate it 6/10 or 7/10.

[Yggdrasilly]

Got to agree with the comments about last night. It was unsettling to see what was going on, but the episode as a whole didn't really do anything for me.

As a sidenote, I've got a comment/question about the numbering scheme of the Cylons. So far, we have...

1) Cavel

2) Leoben

3) Deanna

4) [the reporter]

5) [the doctor]

6) Gina/Caprica

7) ?

8) Sharon

Why did they leave number seven open as one of the final five? Why not have the actual known Cylons as the first seven? Or are they actually going somewhere with this?

[Budious]

D'Anna is (the reporter), #4 is Simon (the doctor), #5 is Doral ... #7 is the skipped number (Final Five) ... #8 is Boomer/Sharon, #9-12 are Final Five

I had a silly thought as I watched the last episode, Ellen Tigh makes such a convincing aged #6... is it possible she was a #6 when her and Tigh were planted into the Colonial Fleet, and that the human cylons have the ability to age normally? I know they are immortal, but I've never heard it said that they do not age, it could possible they die of natural age and resurrect as their young selves again... (Rachael Six?); since I had already tossed the theory out there that Ellen Tight was a final five in a previous post, this is a twist that makes her a cylon but not a final five.

[gigapixels Veteran]

It's a good idea and I see where you could think that, but I think we'd see more aged ones. So far we've seen every model exactly identical to the rest, even #1 who is an older looking model has no younger versions present in any of the scenes we've seen so far. If they were to introduce such an idea, it would have to have been done much earlier in the series to be plausible and believable.

[Budious]

Well, in the case of Colonel Tigh, of the final five, he must obviously have the ability to age given the long friendship he has endured with Adama. Also, in Razor, when Lt. Shaw is on the old Centurion Basestar, she confronts the prototype hybrid, which is portrayed as an old man - suggesting that the older models, and first hybrid, do age. Whether the significant seven and new hybrids (model #0 by Moore) do is unknown, but keep in mind, we don't know how old the new ones are... they may have just came out of goo bathes before the attack on the colonies.

http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/First_Hybrid

[Yggdrasilly]

D'Anna is (the reporter), #4 is Simon (the doctor), #5 is Doral ... #7 is the skipped number (Final Five) ... #8 is Boomer/Sharon, #9-12 are Final Five

When I said reporter, I meant the guy from the VERY beginning, doing the report on Galactica and the Adamas. I couldn't remember his and Simon's names, AND of course got their numbers mixed up. Thanks for the correction.

Still, I kind of wonder why they skipped over number 7.

[ThePitt]

there is not doubt that this is the best series outthere. The religious thing is part of the show and wasnt boring. Not at all. Was pointed that the cylons are more humans than we can think. More human than human, heh.

[OfF3nSiV3]

did Baltar just discover that Tori is a cylon?

in the end, HeadSix looks down on Tori, and Baltar has this shocked look

[Kushan]

Possibly, he knows cylons better than anyone else, even the final 4/5.

Has anyone noticed that 1-6 are all regular cylons and fully aware of themselves, yet 7-12 were all planted in the fleet without their knowledge? (Excluding the sharon that was on caprica).

[ATGC]

Someone posted this on the Sci-Fi Forums, and I think this is the clue on who the final cylon is that Moore told us about...

I am currently rewatching season 3 on dvd, and I just noticed something.

In the ep. "Taking a Break from All Your Worries".

When Baltar is under the drug and is being questioned, he finds himself "in" a resurrection tank surrounded by burnt and disfigured people.

The camera then pans over to the end of the tank where we see a version or representation of the final five.

The one at the very bottom has hair very much like Anders.

The one in the back has hair and clothing very similar to Foster.

The one on the far left is wearing an eyepatch over their right eye exactly like Tigh.

The one in the center is wearing a uniform very much like our now former Chief.

And that leaves the one on the far right, the one that pushes Baltar deep in the water.

This one has long brown hair with a ponytail thing in the back.

Oh! and of course is female.

This could very well mean the final cylon is a woman with brown hair.

Of course she could also simply be a representation of someone, possibly even a man.

Please everyone who reads this take time to respond, I've got to know what everyone thinks of this, even if it may be old news.

Peace.

http://forums.scifi.com/index.php?showtopic=2306659

so either the girl in the back or the girl in the front could be the final cylon,

or it could be this girl the guy is talking about,

Edited April 27, 2008 by NeptuneSaK

[Budious]

Interesting find, I had never noticed the girl with the eye-patch from Baltar's hallucination... though all of Ron Moore's so called "hints" are so vague as to be stretched into any interpretation... I'm tired of guessing and just ready to watch the remaining season. I had peeked around IMDB and noticed Ramo Lampkin should be reappearing soon in upcoming episodes... and any of Baltar's harem should not be discounted either. (bloodied and beaten from their religious ordeal)

[Mathachew Veteran]

All five of those people look female, and yet Tigh, Anders and Chief are male, so that debunks the notion that the last one must be female. And, from those three shots, I see no uniform representing Cheif, nor similar clothing to that of Tori, though I'm basing this purely on those two shots of all five, not on what is shown in the episode.

[Orzo]

Just watched last night's episode. It was ok but not a whole lot of advancement in the story. Is it just me or does the story seem to be moving really slow so far this season? Next week's episode looks promising though, judging from the preview.

[DrewJW]

Was very slow this episode but the ending leaves me hanging for the next helping :D

[Yggdrasilly]

The ending makes me want the next episode NOW.

...Just watched the preview on SciFi for next week. And wow, looks EPIC. Kara and the Hybrid... Awesome.

[LOC Veteran]

Whoever the actor is who plays that Leoben (sp) Cylon, needs an Emmy nod for his acting. He is utterly SUPERB. This weeks episode was terrific. I think most people who find things going slow were expecting battles every week, or answers every week or something. But TPTB know they have people on the string, and can string us along right to the very end.

And I'd still like to know what the hell the Hybrid knows about Starbuck that we don't yet. I seriously doubt she'd lead Humanity to its end, at least not on purpose :D

Also, anyone else notice that this weeks episode was what, 4x05 right? And on Scifi.com they have the preview for next weeks episode as 4x08 ?? Huh.

[Yggdrasilly]

Also, anyone else notice that this weeks episode was what, 4x05 right? And on Scifi.com they have the preview for next weeks episode as 4x08 ?? Huh.

That's because technically, Razor is classified as episodes 401 and 402.

[LOC Veteran]

That's because technically, Razor is classified as episodes 401 and 402.

Duh, forgot about Razor. GG. :p

[Yusuf M. Veteran]

Amazing episode! I can't wait for the next one. I wonder what happened to the base stars that were attacked.

[LOC Veteran]

I'm sure they are either destroyed or waiting for Kara to come help them, which doesn't look so hot right now :p

[ThePitt]

this last ep wasnt that great. I expect a lot more. If the show is totally focused to the last cylong and Kara finding the earth, they are wrong. Till now I dont get the dialog between the hybrid and Kara.

[Kushan]

Well, what else are they going to focus on? The whole show has revolved around them finding earth, obviously the final 5 are related to that so it makes sense they'd focus on it.

I know, I'd like to see some cool space battles as well, but lets face it - nobody really remembers any GREAT Sci-fi programs because of a great space battle. Star trek, Stargate, Babylon 5 (great example right there - 5 episodes to build up to a fight that lasts all of 30s lol), they're all liked because of their overall plots and the universe they develop.

So far I'm liking this season more than I liked the first half of season 3, but we all know how ****ing awesome that got!

If it continues along this path (since this is the final season), I'll be more than happy as it'll have ended on a high note, unlike most good Sci-fi.

[Mathachew Veteran]

It felt like they focused way too much time on Roslin and the dying lady. The six kissing the six was just plain dumb and didn't make sense (but hey, this show loves pushing sex, so I can't expect anything else). I'm finding Baltar to be more and more annoying with his endless talking. His near monotone speeches are beginning to get under my skin (throw some fluctuation in your voice darn it!).

Aside from that, things got really tense multiple times, which was great. Nothing being done to Anders for shooting a fellow officer didn't make much sense, but that isn't a big deal. I'm wondering if Felix being shot in the leg like that will end up killing him, or causing him to lose his leg, which in turn makes him bitter to Anders, eventually kill Anders, causing him to resurrect somehow? I doubt it, but it's shaping up to a big revelation of who the final five, er, four are to the rest of the fleet. The five will eventually be revealed, but they just love stating that all will be revealed at the beginning of every single episode... bah. Looking forward to more mediocre entertainment (hey, I'm entertained, so their job is done, and I'm really looking forward to more).