OiNK under investigation as arrests are made.

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Too true. I'm against pirating but there are some music that is not released by recording companies. One very good example is music pertaining to soundtracks/score. You find you like a certain tune in a movie and find that it's not available in the CD release or it is a different version altogether. So the only way to find the tune is to sometimes look for it in these sites. Take the Transformers score by Steve Jablonsky for example, with the movie coming out in June but taking more than 4 months for the score to be released. A petition was even made for the score to be released. Thankfully it is and it is really good so all that waiting is worth it, but you get my point.

Another example is when not all the music from the movie is released. This is especially prevalent in movies scored by Hans Zimmer such as Gladiator, The Last Samurai, King Arthur and so on. Titanic is also guilty of this, with nearly half the music still not released to the public. The Back to Titanic CD which was released later with supposedly missing music was rubbish, I'm disgusted that I bought it. So what can we do to find our music since its not released? If the recording industry just release these kind of music in an acceptable format, then I'll be the first in line to get it. Unfortunately, I don't see this happening any time soon.

At least the music for the Lord Of The Rings trilogy is being released in all of its glory (though I've yet to buy it, no budget :cry: ).

Scirwode

One thing that kinda gets me mad, is that on some like Japanese releases they contain like 4+ bonus tracks that are not on the American release and the only thing that you find on most sites and stores is the album with no bonus tracks

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Scirwode

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One thing that kinda gets me mad, is that on some like Japanese releases they contain like 4+ bonus tracks that are not on the American release and the only thing that you find on most sites and stores is the album with no bonus tracks

That too.

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IceBrewedBeer

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ROFL, 2 years? I bet they're going to charge him because it took them that long to get an invite, what a bunch of tools.

In all honesty, after joining OiNK a few years back I've purchased more CDs than I had before. My music collection is now double what it was 2 years ago. I donated to help the sites up keep, I'm not worried in the slightest because I donated for the community aspect of things, not the hosted content. ;)

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ZombieFly

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For every site shut down, 10 more will pop up tomorrow...

not of the quality of OiNK they won't. it was invite only for a reason and it was pretty damn strict on transcodes and bad posts. I doubt there are any sites out there that could step up to take it's place.

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HellboundIRL

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I never cared much for Oink, its not like it was the best damn torrent site out there anyway....

With regards to the profit, did he have a subscription option at all? I've seen a lot of torrent sites do the whole VIP thing...

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lhnz

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I was expecting this to happen soon enough.

I almost posted on the Power User+ forum whether others were also beginning to feel that all good things had to come to an end.

I hope that Alan is okay, and I know that at the end of this we will be left with progress.

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lhnz

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I never cared much for Oink, its not like it was the best damn torrent site out there anyway....

With regards to the profit, did he have a subscription option at all? I've seen a lot of torrent sites do the whole VIP thing...

Nope, they only had a donate option (and hopefully Alan was intelligent enough to not horde donation money).

Hosted no cracks, or illegal files. Only torrents.

However they obviously hosted torrent files to copyrighted work, so hence were facilitating people to break copyright.

I'll be interested in seeing what they try and get the owner for...

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Irrespective of the site, this has been on the cards for a long time, torrent site busts have been going on for a while now. Yes TPB got away with it, but only because they relocated. Torrent sites are not the place to be now, the authorities who used to go after the FTP groups have shifted gear towards torrent sites as its a lot easier to prove things. Sites have ratios, which is logged, so if X member logs in and downloads Y amount of data, then uploads Y amount of data (in order to maintain a ratio) they have all the evidence they need.

Say goodbye to torrent sites as we know it.

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Phalesafe

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"Hack The Planet" I guess thats what the IFPI thinks we are all up to these days. I personally love the subscription part of it, anything to put a spin on it to make everyone look evil. Really they should go after the creators of the MP3 format as thats what sparked all of this in the first place music wise.

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dwarm

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Poor guy. He was doing a huge favour for so many people. No matter what the news states, OiNK will be remembered by many as the best torrent site and he as a legend.

does anyone fear that due to the oink shut down, that they might track users down and send us notices/arrest us?

Yes...

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does anyone fear that due to the oink shut down, that they might track users down and send us notices/arrest us? I am wondering since thats what it says on the site

Thats more or less what I said earlier, they now have all the evidence as all accounts are logged for ratio purposes.

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czanchez

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With out the internet, there would be music that I would not be able to get my hands on, or even heard of.

Someone needs to come up with a site like OiNK, but make it so that it does not host items that are purchasable, so for example, out of print CDs, live shows ( i know archive.org has a few of these ), rare stuff like that, which the only way to 'buy' them is from other people who do not own the rights to sell them, so why not just screw those bootleggers and give it up for free? I know with roms, that some people justify downloading and having them by the fact that the console & the game is out of print, so its not really hurting anyone, because the company is never going to get your money, no mater what. Of course this does not stop collects from going down to their local gametrader and buying the old rare SNES cart of Final Fantasy 3 (or whatever) for $100.

Its free exposure, I never understood how these companies don't understand this. I never really like Metallica, I would never spend $14-8 dollars to buy a CD to try them out, because I'd rather spend it on music I know I'd like. But I got a CD from a friend, tried it out, explored some more of the back catalog, and then from that day I bought all their newest CDs. I usually never by old CDs because I can't justify paying $14 or so for an older CD, specially if the artist has 6+ old CDs, so I pick them up used at local thrift shops and used book stores. Live shows and back catalog CDs will help expose people to these bands, but its free, you have nothing to lose to check out a band which a friend recommends, or your heard was good.

They do have a site (Spiralfrog i think) which you can download free music (DRMed of course, but thats not too bad for free, but we could do better) but they only have major albums and popular things that the studios allow. The new site should be community based so that people who make their own Fan-based cds (like live CDs, DVD rips, stuff like that) can submit it for upload, which is then reviewed to make sure it really is 'legal' to the plan of the site, and then posted as a torrent for all to download, and since the torrent is 'legal' i bet many more people will seed it because to some bandwidth is nothing, and for those who download, they can get it much faster, and there can be multiple formats (flac for the audiophiles, hosted by them, and then MP3 for those who don't care, or whatever they decided to upload it as)

The record companies would probably be appalled at this idea and might even sue me just for the thought of it. Hell, I'd probably even pay to have membership to the site, but I'd hope most of it goes to the team that ran the site and its development.

Its a thought, a utopia, probably never to be conceived of legally because of copyright legislation and resistance to change.

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According to this:

http://torrentfreak.com/oink-investigation...f-users-071023/

they said that nothing will happen, but i think something will happen to all oink users

Serious owned if this were to happen :laugh:

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troist

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does anyone fear that due to the oink shut down, that they might track users down and send us notices/arrest us? I am wondering since thats what it says on the site

They won't do it... imagine tracking down 180,000 users. Then they'd have to work out what songs each user downloaded, and get the total count of songs or else they wouldn't hold up at all in court. Then if its somewhere like the UK then they'd probably need even more evidence than that, possibly the dates of when you downloaded them or something like that. They'd also need to get the co-operation of the local authority in arresting you.

Imagine the costs of doing all of that for 180,000 users... they might get the legal fees back from the court but they won't get the money back for having to actually find you and build up the profile of your download history.

They'll only go for top 10 uploaders or something, or the ones who uploaded the pre-release albums. The average user is safe, just as they were when ET got busted a couple of years back.

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KHaKi-

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does anyone fear that due to the oink shut down, that they might track users down and send us notices/arrest us? I am wondering since thats what it says on the site
Yes. to every single ~100,000 users :p ....unlikely IMO
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kombolcha

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been said many times, the quality of that site was awesome.

i used to give out invites, but even after people had promised to keep up the ratio, they failed and eventually got banned, that reflects poorly on me, so i stopped giving them out. except for a few close people. not to mention i gave invites to myself to get more invites.. all that's gone now.

also, for almost a year i have not been able to upload anything.. my ratio was at a 2.3 and recently at 1.5.. now it's zero.. eh.

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Chicane-UK Veteran

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What I don't understand is the handful of people in this thread who are actually glad that sites like Oink are slowly being killed off. I can only assume you have links to, or some other interest in the recording industry because I don't know of ANYONE who could possibly have a soft spot for or show any sympathy towards the recording industries!

They are crooks who take us, the paying public, for fools.

I've never even USED Oink but frankly we need more sites like it!

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What I don't understand is the handful of people in this thread who are actually glad that sites like Oink are slowly being killed off. I can only assume you have links to, or some other interest in the recording industry because I don't know of ANYONE who could possibly have a soft spot for or show any sympathy towards the recording industries!

They are crooks who take us, the paying public, for fools.

I've never even USED Oink but frankly we need more sites like it!

Because some of us hated Oink more then the recording industry.

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