Vice Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 Besides he broke the law. If you don't agree with the copyright laws you should get them changed, don't just set-up an illegal website and ignore them. He got what he deserved, his a dumb criminal. If he was smart he wouldn't of setup the site while living in england. He should have moved to a country without Copyright laws or attempted to change the laws in england. Got what he deserved in my opinion :) Signed: One happy copyright holder Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/595913-oink-under-investigation-as-arrests-are-made/page/5/#findComment-588940494 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farstrider Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 ROFL, 2 years? I bet they're going to charge him because it took them that long to get an invite, what a bunch of tools.In all honesty, after joining OiNK a few years back I've purchased more CDs than I had before. My music collection is now double what it was 2 years ago. I donated to help the sites up keep, I'm not worried in the slightest because I donated for the community aspect of things, not the hosted content. ;) There is NO hosted content, ONLY torrents! Poor guy. He was doing a huge favour for so many people. No matter what the news states, OiNK will be remembered by many as the best torrent site and he as a legend.Quote - does anyone fear that due to the oink shut down, that they might track users down and send us notices/arrest us? Yes... I somehow cannot see this happening! According to this:http://torrentfreak.com/oink-investigation...f-users-071023/ they said that nothing will happen, but i think something will happen to all oink users Do you seriously believe that? All 80 000 / 90 000 users? From all over the world, plenty using dynamically assigned IP addresses! I cannot see that happening! One or two poor sods will take the rap! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/595913-oink-under-investigation-as-arrests-are-made/page/5/#findComment-588940509 Share on other sites More sharing options...
one321 Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 Regardless of whether you loved or hated OiNK, this blog post makes some good points. Critical Backlash: Why We Need OiNK Because there's been some confusion about my intentions with this post, I'll make them perfectly clear: I'm not condoning piracy or even promoting OiNK, really. What I'm saying is, the lack of a legitimate, legal service with the same quality, ease and variety of OiNK is a huge, gaping hole in the music business right now and if anyone wants to make money on a recording ever again, you guys had better fill it the hell up. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/595913-oink-under-investigation-as-arrests-are-made/page/5/#findComment-588940516 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZombieFly Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 OiNK memorial Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/595913-oink-under-investigation-as-arrests-are-made/page/5/#findComment-588940520 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrKuro Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 :cry: :cry: :cry: Wow. . . I'm shocked .. what crappy news to wake up to. I loved Oink It was hands down, the best music resource on the internet, in both quality and quantity Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/595913-oink-under-investigation-as-arrests-are-made/page/5/#findComment-588940524 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pretend Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 well said. im sure everyone knows, this doesn't stop anything, another private site will grow and become just as big. their were already like 5 decent ones right behind oink. :/ :wilted_rose: So long OiNK. :cry: But which site is going to take it's place ! give it a week or two. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/595913-oink-under-investigation-as-arrests-are-made/page/5/#findComment-588940526 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WICKO Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 What I don't understand is the handful of people in this thread who are actually glad that sites like Oink are slowly being killed off. I can only assume you have links to, or some other interest in the recording industry because I don't know of ANYONE who could possibly have a soft spot for or show any sympathy towards the recording industries! They are crooks who take us, the paying public, for fools. I've never even USED Oink but frankly we need more sites like it! That's because those people are ignorant. They believe whatever the media says. The media stated that the admin made hundreds of thousands of pounds, because he charged for subscriptions to the site. Which is completely false, you could OPTIONALLY donate for server costs. But people are lemmings and do what the media tells them to do. It's sad actually.. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/595913-oink-under-investigation-as-arrests-are-made/page/5/#findComment-588940600 Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkl Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 It took me a while to get used to .cd instead of .me.uk, but this... this... :cry: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/595913-oink-under-investigation-as-arrests-are-made/page/5/#findComment-588940610 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farstrider Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 Saw this and was wondering.............. I would be very supprised if it was the real Pedro!! the link to the site from the name posted, is pointing to another very well known tracker called btmusic......... This site also appears to be down! Pedro said... bwahahahahahahahahaha bwahahahahahaha So happi am I that OiNK dead is. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/595913-oink-under-investigation-as-arrests-are-made/page/5/#findComment-588940632 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrKuro Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 Irrespective of the site, this has been on the cards for a long time, torrent site busts have been going on for a while now. Yes TPB got away with it, but only because they relocated. Torrent sites are not the place to be now, the authorities who used to go after the FTP groups have shifted gear towards torrent sites as its a lot easier to prove things. Sites have ratios, which is logged, so if X member logs in and downloads Y amount of data, then uploads Y amount of data (in order to maintain a ratio) they have all the evidence they need. Say goodbye to torrent sites as we know it. No . the torrent hydra is not going anywhere . . also ratios can easily be modified and faked, and the numbers sent back to the tracker are not good evidence. Even the ip logs and email addys are not conclusive evidence that you participated in these so call "crimes". it does suck that oink went down, you really can't imagine how much high quality music was accessible there. I've also noticed alot of other high profile private trackers have disabled invites today . . i guess they are nervous aswell. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/595913-oink-under-investigation-as-arrests-are-made/page/5/#findComment-588940643 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shof Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 OiNK memorial BREAKING... OiNK released from questioning and is back home.It has been reported in the official OiNKk chat room that OiNK himself is back home and online at the moment. Let's hope his Nan has made him some tea and biscuits to soothe his nerves. Man, if thats true they should give him his equipment back so he can reset his site. Afterall, the media bull****ted this story soo bad they should of pretend like he did nothing wrong before Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/595913-oink-under-investigation-as-arrests-are-made/page/5/#findComment-588940654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shasoosh Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 (edited) I think that oink is small potatoes. The mourning day for all downloaders will come when TL will post there own "This site has been closed as a result of a criminal..." Edited October 23, 2007 by Shasoosh Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/595913-oink-under-investigation-as-arrests-are-made/page/5/#findComment-588940656 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HellboundIRL Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 I thing that oink is small potatoes. The mourning day for all downloaders will come when TL will post there own "This site has been closed as a result of a criminal..." Definitely, that'll be a ****ty day for me :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/595913-oink-under-investigation-as-arrests-are-made/page/5/#findComment-588940665 Share on other sites More sharing options...
frogger Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 he's out! http://torrentfreak.com/oink-admin-release...custody-071023/ i never used the site, but i can see where people are coming from with the rare and lossless music. there are literally no services besides physical cds that offer lossless music, i don't think three are at least :blink: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/595913-oink-under-investigation-as-arrests-are-made/page/5/#findComment-588940718 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shof Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 he's out!http://torrentfreak.com/oink-admin-release...custody-071023/ i never used the site, but i can see where people are coming from with the rare and lossless music. there are literally no services besides physical cds that offer lossless music, i don't think three are at least :blink: I posted the info first. I wonder if they gave him the go ahead to open up his site again Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/595913-oink-under-investigation-as-arrests-are-made/page/5/#findComment-588940726 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noveed Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 OMG this only happened a few streets away from me, oooooo didnt know Middlesbrough would have things like this. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/595913-oink-under-investigation-as-arrests-are-made/page/5/#findComment-588940735 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shof Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 OMG this only happened a few streets away from me, oooooo didnt know Middlesbrough would have things like this. and you didnt stop the police from saving this innocent man. How dare you!? :whistle: :shiftyninja: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/595913-oink-under-investigation-as-arrests-are-made/page/5/#findComment-588940737 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shasoosh Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 "NFOrce, the ISP of OiNK, said today in an interview that they were not aware of any illegal activities surrounding the site. They thought OiNK was hosting a streaming video site or a weblog." Looooooooooool Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/595913-oink-under-investigation-as-arrests-are-made/page/5/#findComment-588940749 Share on other sites More sharing options...
one321 Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 Here is a great response to all of this. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/595913-oink-under-investigation-as-arrests-are-made/page/5/#findComment-588940784 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerolimit Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 come on man.... "oink helped me buy their cds..." "..if it wasnt for oink i would of never bought their cd..." what a load of bull!!! Why would you buy something you already have? So tell me guys... if you go to Calvin Klein to look at a pair of jeans do you take them to try them out durring the day and if you like them you go back and pay for them? Nope it doesn't work that way right? So why can you do it with music? Listen to a clip? Itunes lets you do that if you like it perfect if not your good to go. So everyone saying that they payed for a cd that they d/l is dumb! Just my 2cents! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/595913-oink-under-investigation-as-arrests-are-made/page/5/#findComment-588940836 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceBrewedBeer Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 come on man...."oink helped me buy their cds..." "..if it wasnt for oink i would of never bought their cd..." what a load of bull!!! Why would you buy something you already have? As I said in the news section...It's called SUPPORTING THE ARTIST! Plenty of times I've done that, now I'll admit that a few CDs I hadn't bought but the majority I had bought to support the artist. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/595913-oink-under-investigation-as-arrests-are-made/page/5/#findComment-588940903 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WICKO Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 come on man...."oink helped me buy their cds..." "..if it wasnt for oink i would of never bought their cd..." what a load of bull!!! Why would you buy something you already have? So tell me guys... if you go to Calvin Klein to look at a pair of jeans do you take them to try them out durring the day and if you like them you go back and pay for them? Nope it doesn't work that way right? So why can you do it with music? Listen to a clip? Itunes lets you do that if you like it perfect if not your good to go. So everyone saying that they payed for a cd that they d/l is dumb! Just my 2cents! Looooooooooool You can have your 2 cents back, we don't want them. Please don't use any analogies seeing as you got it completely wrong. Downloading music, and taking a physical copy of something are 2 different things. First of all, you would pay for the pants, wear them for a day, and bring them back if you don't like them. As long as they are in good shape, you can return them for a full refund at most clothing outlets. Doing this with a CD will never happen, because once you buy it, it's yours permanently. If you want to return something like that, it has to remain unopened, ie not used/listened to. Second of all, we would buy something we already have because most of us have morals and believe that an artist deserves money for their work. Supporting the artist means more from the artist, which would be in our best interests as fans. Not everyone likes iTunes or the other subscription services, etc. Be it DRM, prices, stupid software we have to install, whatever. I know some companies offer DRM free music, but this is not the point. Most of us would rather test out a CD to see if it is worth paying anything for. Sure, listen to a clip. That is a good solution, I admit. But it doesn't work for those of us who refuse to use these services. I would rather purchase the CD. Please don't ever grace us with your comments again, its clear you can't be mature about it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/595913-oink-under-investigation-as-arrests-are-made/page/5/#findComment-588940908 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janitor Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 An artist deserves money for their time. However nobody needs millions and millions of $'s or ?'s that's just greedy. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/595913-oink-under-investigation-as-arrests-are-made/page/5/#findComment-588940919 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nate Archibald Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 LoooooooooooolYou can have your 2 cents back, we don't want them. Please don't use any analogies seeing as you got it completely wrong. Downloading music, and taking a physical copy of something are 2 different things. First of all, you would pay for the pants, wear them for a day, and bring them back if you don't like them. As long as they are in good shape, you can return them for a full refund at most clothing outlets. Doing this with a CD will never happen, because once you buy it, it's yours permanently. If you want to return something like that, it has to remain unopened, ie not used/listened to. Second of all, we would buy something we already have because most of us have morals and believe that an artist deserves money for their work. Supporting the artist means more from the artist, which would be in our best interests as fans. Not everyone likes iTunes or the other subscription services, etc. Be it DRM, prices, stupid software we have to install, whatever. I know some companies offer DRM free music, but this is not the point. Most of us would rather test out a CD to see if it is worth paying anything for. Sure, listen to a clip. That is a good solution, I admit. But it doesn't work for those of us who refuse to use these services. I would rather purchase the CD. Please don't ever grace us with your comments again, its clear you can't be mature about it. :yes: :yes: :yes: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/595913-oink-under-investigation-as-arrests-are-made/page/5/#findComment-588940920 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee G. Veteran Posted October 23, 2007 Veteran Share Posted October 23, 2007 come on man...."oink helped me buy their cds..." "..if it wasnt for oink i would of never bought their cd..." what a load of bull!!! Why would you buy something you already have? So tell me guys... if you go to Calvin Klein to look at a pair of jeans do you take them to try them out durring the day and if you like them you go back and pay for them? Nope it doesn't work that way right? So why can you do it with music? There's truth to those statements. I've downloaded albums through torrent sites, and there are a number of albums which I've actually bought afterwards (i.e. buying the CD). Although of course if you illegally download an album and then legally download it from iTunes or wherever, that's completely pointless. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/595913-oink-under-investigation-as-arrests-are-made/page/5/#findComment-588940924 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts