CelticWhisper Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 Cool. Does Heat Death factor in the entropy thing too, or am I thinking of something completely different? I'd read the article, but, well...sig. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/596608-big-bang-remnant-discovery/page/5/#findComment-589049530 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+M2Ys4U Subscriber¹ Posted December 10, 2007 Subscriber¹ Share Posted December 10, 2007 Cool. Does Heat Death factor in the entropy thing too, or am I thinking of something completely different?I'd read the article, but, well...sig. The heat death is a possible final state of the universe, in which it has "run down" to a state of no thermodynamic free energy to sustain motion or life. In physical terms, it has reached maximum entropy. The hypothesis of a universal heat death stems from the 1850s ideas of William Thomson (Lord Kelvin) who extrapolated the theory of heat views of mechanical energy loss in nature, as embodied in the first two laws of thermodynamics, to universal operation. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/596608-big-bang-remnant-discovery/page/5/#findComment-589049591 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CelticWhisper Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, okay. I don't know why I thought entropy diminished with heat death. Probably because I'm still clueless as to the major concepts behind entropy. Maybe a physics class taken for no credit at a community college is in order. Not the kind of thing I'm willing to stake my GPA on, but I need a clue. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/596608-big-bang-remnant-discovery/page/5/#findComment-589049627 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonC Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 Still waiting for you to explain Uranium isotopes Maybe you could point me to one of your evolutionist sites, because I done a search on google and wiki, and it doesnt really say anything about it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/596608-big-bang-remnant-discovery/page/5/#findComment-589049832 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CelticWhisper Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 Actually, you'd be looking for a geology, palaeontology, or archaeology site before you'd be looking for a site about evolution. Uranium-lead dating is commonly used in those fields. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/596608-big-bang-remnant-discovery/page/5/#findComment-589049882 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincent Posted December 10, 2007 Author Share Posted December 10, 2007 Maybe you could point me to one of your evolutionist sites, because I done a search on google and wiki, and it doesnt really say anything about it. Uranium238-Lead207 dating is done via a mathematical calculation for the dcay of atoms within the isotope (instability) caused by the weak nuclear force, is as follows: And Done as requested Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/596608-big-bang-remnant-discovery/page/5/#findComment-589049981 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berserk87 Posted December 10, 2007 Share Posted December 10, 2007 Uranium238-Lead207 dating is done via a mathematical calculation for the dcay of atoms within the isotope (instability) caused by the weak nuclear force, is as follows: And Done as requested until you take uranium, put it in the center of the earth, and measure its half life, your decay of atom measuring is flawed. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/596608-big-bang-remnant-discovery/page/5/#findComment-589050372 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincent Posted December 10, 2007 Author Share Posted December 10, 2007 until you take uranium, put it in the center of the earth, and measure its half life, your decay of atom measuring is flawed. And how is this so? You state it's flawed, but fail to to demonstrate how it's flawed. You seem to specialize in rhetoric, with unsubstantiated claims ( claims with no substance to back them up ) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/596608-big-bang-remnant-discovery/page/5/#findComment-589050379 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berserk87 Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 stop following me! :p and did u look up young earth creationism? it states that the earth is younger then scientist think, because the massive amount of energy/heat that would have been present in creating the earth that the decay rate of certain atoms would be dramatically increased temporarily. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/596608-big-bang-remnant-discovery/page/5/#findComment-589050398 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincent Posted December 11, 2007 Author Share Posted December 11, 2007 stop following me! :p and did u look up young earth creationism? it states that the earth is younger then scientist think, because the massive amount of energy/heat that would have been present in creating the earth that the decay rate of certain atoms would be dramatically increased temporarily. You're wrong Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/596608-big-bang-remnant-discovery/page/5/#findComment-589050415 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berserk87 Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 i dont see how that proves its wrong, unless you can test ALL of the conditions of the creation of a planet. anyway...im going to go solder some stuff with a thing. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/596608-big-bang-remnant-discovery/page/5/#findComment-589050434 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincent Posted December 11, 2007 Author Share Posted December 11, 2007 i dont see how that proves its wrong, unless you can test ALL of the conditions of the creation of a planet. So i take it you've never studied geology.... gotcha.. anyway...im going to go solder some stuff with a thing. Yes, run away... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/596608-big-bang-remnant-discovery/page/5/#findComment-589050440 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berserk87 Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 Yes, run away... dont tell me how to get to places! :unsure: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/596608-big-bang-remnant-discovery/page/5/#findComment-589050445 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonC Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 Scientists don't know what happened, so to cover it up, they hide it behind billions of years...and scientists try to prove their theories, not disproove them. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/596608-big-bang-remnant-discovery/page/5/#findComment-589050508 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Decryptor Veteran Posted December 11, 2007 Veteran Share Posted December 11, 2007 "Geology frightens and confuses me!" And theories do get corrected (theories explain natural phenomena, unless something very odd happens in reality, theories don't get thrown out, they get corrected). Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/596608-big-bang-remnant-discovery/page/5/#findComment-589050530 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincent Posted December 11, 2007 Author Share Posted December 11, 2007 Scientists don't know what happened, so to cover it up, they hide it behind billions of years...and scientists try to prove their theories, not disproove them. Yes because you've actually taken the time to study cosmology and use a telescope.... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/596608-big-bang-remnant-discovery/page/5/#findComment-589050543 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonC Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 Im sure you have too! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/596608-big-bang-remnant-discovery/page/5/#findComment-589050547 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Decryptor Veteran Posted December 11, 2007 Veteran Share Posted December 11, 2007 Yeah, he actually has... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/596608-big-bang-remnant-discovery/page/5/#findComment-589050552 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincent Posted December 11, 2007 Author Share Posted December 11, 2007 Im sure you have too! i'll post a pic of my telescope and i tommorow. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/596608-big-bang-remnant-discovery/page/5/#findComment-589050572 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berserk87 Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 i dont think jasonc noticed your sarcasm. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/596608-big-bang-remnant-discovery/page/5/#findComment-589050635 Share on other sites More sharing options...
acies Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 I am not an expert (please correct me if I am wrong), but if the age of the earth was incorrect wouldn't we be unable to create a nucleur explosion?? :blink: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/596608-big-bang-remnant-discovery/page/5/#findComment-589050772 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berserk87 Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 I am not an expert (please correct me if I am wrong), but if the age of the earth was incorrect wouldn't we be unable to create a nucleur explosion?? :blink: how did u come to that conclusion... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/596608-big-bang-remnant-discovery/page/5/#findComment-589050894 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincent Posted December 11, 2007 Author Share Posted December 11, 2007 It's called Plutonium Berzerk...... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/596608-big-bang-remnant-discovery/page/5/#findComment-589051220 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berserk87 Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 if the age of the earth was wrong plutonium would still exist... i think were just going in circles now, weres jason... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/596608-big-bang-remnant-discovery/page/5/#findComment-589052188 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonC Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 I'm still watching, I should be able to post a Creationism topic soon, Got some time on my hands. Where did all the other chemical elements come from ? After the THEORY of the "Big Bang", there was very very few chemical elements, Helium, Hydrogen, Lithium...so how did we get all the ones we have today? for example oxygen. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/596608-big-bang-remnant-discovery/page/5/#findComment-589052250 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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