MGS4-SS Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 I'm still watching, I should be able to post a Creationism topic soon, Got some time on my hands. Where did all the other chemical elements come from ? After the THEORY of the "Big Bang", there was very very few chemical elements, Helium, Hydrogen, Lithium...so how did we get all the ones we have today? for example oxygen. Fusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+M2Ys4U Subscriber¹ Posted December 11, 2007 Subscriber¹ Share Posted December 11, 2007 (edited) I'm still watching, I should be able to post a Creationism topic soon, Got some time on my hands. Where did all the other chemical elements come from ? After the THEORY of the "Big Bang", there was very very few chemical elements, Helium, Hydrogen, Lithium...so how did we get all the ones we have today? for example oxygen. Fusion. Once you give two nuclei (that are smaller than lead) enough energy to overcome the electrostatic repulsion between them (the force required is ; q1 and q2 being the charges on the particles (for Hydrogen it's 1.602176487x10-19 Coulombs), epsilon naught is the permittivity of free space - how freely a charged particle can move through space; approx. 8.854187817x10-12Farads per metre - and pi you should know) the two nuclei can fuse together, producing a larger, more stable, nuclei and giving off a large amount of energy (because it's going from an unstable state to a stable state). Edited December 11, 2007 by M2Ys4U Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonC Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 Im probably missing the point, Say Hydrogen and Helium made Oxygen, I know it doesn't, but you wouldn't find traces of them 2 elements in it ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakey_snake Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 Do you have any grasp of Atomic theory? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGS4-SS Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 Im probably missing the point,Say Hydrogen and Helium made Oxygen, I know it doesn't, but you wouldn't find traces of them 2 elements in it ?? You've got to be kidding us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megamanXplosion Posted December 11, 2007 Share Posted December 11, 2007 Shakey, that's only a theory :whistle: :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincent Posted December 11, 2007 Author Share Posted December 11, 2007 Fusion. Once you give two nuclei (that are smaller than lead) enough energy to overcome the electrostatic repulsion between them (the force required is; q1 and q2 being the charges on the particles (for Hydrogen it's 1.602176487x10-19 Coulombs), epsilon naught is the permittivity of free space - how freely a charged particle can move through space; approx. 8.854187817x10-12Farads per metre - and pi you should know) the two nuclei can fuse together, producing a larger, more stable, nuclei and giving off a large amount of energy (because it's going from an unstable state to a stable state). Overcoming the Coluomb Barrier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonC Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 You've got to be kidding us. Right, CAREFULLY and SLLOOOOOWWWWLLYYYY Read exactly what I just said.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kernatch Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 hey jason. basically, all elements are made from electrons, photons and neutrons. the thing that distinguishes one element from another is the number of these things they contain. for example, hydrogen is made from 1 proton and 1 electron (and 0 neutrons) and helium is 2 protons, 2 electrons and 2 neutrons. the further along the periodic table you go, the more of these things they have. so two elements can combine to make another element, because (to put it simply) their protons, electrons and neutrons get added together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakey_snake Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Do you have any grasp of Atomic theory? Right, CAREFULLY and SLLOOOOOWWWWLLYYYY Read exactly what I just said.... So basically, no. congratulations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonC Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 So basically, no. congratulations. Right.....Now again....Slowwwwwwllly...and Carefully read EXACTLY what I said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkymunky Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Right ffs If "God" made it all, why would he of made it so complicated?? We wouldn't need atoms etc.. We wouldn't need to breath etc, we would just be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+M2Ys4U Subscriber¹ Posted December 12, 2007 Subscriber¹ Share Posted December 12, 2007 Im probably missing the point,Say Hydrogen and Helium made Oxygen, I know it doesn't, but you wouldn't find traces of them 2 elements in it ?? All atomic nuclei are made of of protons and neutrons, which are themselves made up of quarks. We believe that quarks are fundamental, that is to say they're not made of anything else, but we're not entirely sure of that. Hydrogen is made up of just 1 proton, Helium is 2 protons and a varying amount of neutrons depending on the isotope (usually 4) oxygen is made up of 8 protons and a varying amount of neutrons depending on the isotope. (Usually another 8). 1 proton is made up from 2 up quarks and 1 down quark. 1 neutron is made up from 1 up quark and 2 down quarks. Thus: Hydrogen has 2 up quarks and 1 down quark Helium has 8 up quarks and 10 down quarks Oxygen has 24 up quarks and 24 down quarks Thus, if 1H and 2He were to fuse, the resulting nucleus would consist of 10 up quarks and 11 down quarks. This would produce 3 protons and 4 neutrons, giving us Lithium-7, which is the most common isotope of Lithium. Want to hazard a guess as to why? Because hydrogen and helium are abundant and can fuse with little problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonC Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Thank you for explaining the chemical element to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+M2Ys4U Subscriber¹ Posted December 12, 2007 Subscriber¹ Share Posted December 12, 2007 Thank you for explaining the chemical element to me. You're welcome. If there's anything else you want explaining just ask and someone will answer :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berserk87 Posted December 14, 2007 Share Posted December 14, 2007 Right ffsIf "God" made it all, why would he of made it so complicated?? We wouldn't need atoms etc.. We wouldn't need to breath etc, we would just be. i really really hope your joking... if thats your reason for doubting Gods existence, then...im going to fly over there and hit you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkymunky Posted December 14, 2007 Share Posted December 14, 2007 Well answer my why then Beserk The reason I don't believe is due to the fact I'm not a weak minded individual, not because of the above reasons. Is the reason you believe is because you read it in a fictitious book?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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