Windows XP SP3. Much better than Vista SP1


Recommended Posts

After a disappointing showing by Windows Vista SP1, we were pleasantly surprised to discover that Windows XP Service Pack 3 (v.3244) delivers a measurable performance boost to this aging desktop OS. Testing with OfficeBench showed an ~10% performance boost vs. the same configuration running under Windows XP w/Service Pack 2.

xpsp3.png

Figure 1 - OfficeBench Completion Times

(In Seconds - Lower is Better)

Note: As with our Vista SP1 testing, we used the identical Dell XPS M1710 test bed with 2GHz Core 2 Duo CPU, 1GB of RAM and discrete nVidia GeForce Go 7900GS video.

Since SP3 was supposed to be mostly a bug-fix/patch consolidation release - unlike w/Vista SP1, Microsoft made no promises of improved performance for XP - the unexpected speed boost comes as a nice bonus. In fact, XP SP3 is shaping-up to be a "must have" update for the majority of users who are still running Redmond's not-so-latest and greatest desktop OS.

Of course, none of this bodes well for Vista, which is now more than 2x slower than the most current builds of its older sibling. Suffice to say that performance-minded users will likely choose to stick with the now even speedier Windows XP - at least until more "Windows 7" information becomes publicly available.

Windows Vista = Windows ME "Reloaded?" You be the judge!

Windows XP SP3 Tests

Edited by Borimol
Windows Vista = Windows ME "Reloaded?" You be the judge!

This is very very 2006 and we are almost at 2008. Drop it. Its getting very old please. It is not ME. It is the best OS that Microsoft has came out with. If your drivers are buggy, it is not MS's fault. If you don't know how to use a PC, it is not MS's fault. If you love Macs/Linux/etc, it is not MS's fault.

Wouldn't a fairer test be to test both OSs on the hardware "of the time"? So use a computer which meets, but doesn't exceed, the recommend system requirements for each OS.

Using a modern computer, XP will be faster than Vista. Add Windows 98 to the test and XP will be shown to be slower too...

I don't want Vista anytime soon, but the speed argument is pretty null.

If it's only about performance, Windows 2000 is probably faster than XP, and so on. No theming engine bloat, no services for system recovery kicking in, and so on. Each successive OS use to have worse performance and higher system requirements than its predecessor, with perhaps the exception being 16 vs 32-bit OS's. Even in this case, the system requirements will be higher, but when they're met I guess they're at least faster. Still, anyone remember running Windows 95 well on 0.016 GB RAM? I don't think you should place your hopes in Windows 7 as for performance. Especially since MS has officially said about that OS that they learnt a few things with Vista, and that they should in the future not change the OS as much at once. So I believe W7 will look and play much like Vista. I'm not at all sure the new mini kernel experiment they're working on will end up in Windows 7. And even if it does, even Vista use a microkernel. All NT operating systems do. The size of the kernel doesn't necessarily affect the heaviness of the OS much. It's rather a lot of the middleware that do. If Windows 7 ends up being big on .NET, you'll long for the days of Vista in comparison, at least as for performance.

No, what makes people switch is rather about if the new features are better, not the performance. If people feel they can pay the new features with performance as the currency, they switch.

That people have to occasionally upgrade systems for new operating systems haven't been news since the development of operating systems begun. That's not the newsworthy thing about Vista. Not at all. In that case, you just have an incredibly poor memory.

Edited by Jugalator
Here come the Vista defenders....

Either:

1) paid by MS

2) buyer's remorse

Buy, Learn, Use, Enjoy.

We adapted to XP, we'll adapt to Vista.

OVer a year and i've yet to format my Vista install, it's still stable, and solid, and fast.

And no, i'm not a paid Microsoft employee

Here come the Vista defenders....

Either:

1) paid by MS

2) buyer's remorse

What was that? I couldn't hear you over the sound of your knuckles dragging on the ground.

I haven't bought Vista. I've only used it in passing, mostly while servicing machines. It looks nicer than XP, has much better networking support, better support for devices out of the box, much improved instant searching, more powerful security features, a more powerful task manager, better audio management, a better laid out updating utility, versioning in the way of Shadow Copies, etc. I also don't get paid by Microsoft - more specifically, this is a Mac-oriented university campus. So what was the point of your post again?

Windows Vista = Windows ME "Reloaded?" You be the judge!

Your post = posted by a moron? You be the judge!

Here come the Vista defenders....

Either:

1) paid by MS

2) buyer's remorse

Or actually know what they are talking about.

3) People who know how to use/maintain their computers and with up to date current hardware...

Hang on, you're the same people who claim that Linux is 'too complex' for Joe average, and yet, you expect that very same Joe to acquire all the same knowledge you have to run Windows Vista 'properly'. Interesting double standards.

Black kettles, glass houses and all that jazz I guess.

Here come the Vista defenders....

Either:

1) paid by MS

2) buyer's remorse

Oh Yeah??....you're completely wrong Mr. Vista is received now like the way Xp has been in it's early days.....Vista is a lot better than Xp, no one would disagree......:cool:

There's no way you can convince Vista users that this OS is ****, and they can't convince you that it's not.

So why keep playing the same old song? it's getting ridiculous.

There's alot of people that have zero problems with the OS and actually enjoy using it.

Your assumptions just makes you sound uninformed.

Why the hell would they want to test Vista or XP with a computer that only hold 1Gig of memory?? Most computers now comes with 2Gig and even some with 3Gig (i've seen that on HP computers).

Even the computer we use at work have 2Gig of memory! Is not rare anymore, it's common.

There's no way you can convince Vista users that this OS is ****, and they can't convince you that it's not.

So why keep playing the same old song? it's getting ridiculous.

There's alot of people that have zero problems with the OS and actually enjoy using it.

Your assumptions just makes you sound uninformed.

Agreed.

I love my Vista x64 install. I dual-booted with XP x32 for the longest time but since x64 now does 99% of everything I need to do at albeit similar speeds (yes I agree XP is faster but I understand why) I only have a single boot setup now.

Come time (and me overcoming my own laziness) I will tweak Vista to boot with a smaller RAM footprint than I have now, knowing it will not be the 248MB RAM footprint my XP install had.

Love my install. One day, you may too.

When Microsoft said that Vista SP1 will convert Vista into XP in performance matters? :rolleyes: , forget it! that will never happen! :whistle:

Vista is a big resource consumer, if your PC have some problem with the hardware, Vista will put it out those problem easyly than XP

Anyway, Happy with Vista and playing Crysis! wohooo! :p

-AthlonX2 4800

-2GB DDR PC3200

-Geforce 7900GT 256MB PCI-E

-Dell 20" widescreen w/DVI

Edited by daniel_rh

If you dont like or its not running on your pc why bother all the people that run it fine on their pc like mine??

Plz shut up and stick with XP or buy a better PC...

This is very very 2006 and we are almost at 2008. Drop it. Its getting very old please. It is not ME. It is the best OS that Microsoft has came out with. If your drivers are buggy, it is not MS's fault. If you don't know how to use a PC, it is not MS's fault. If you love Macs/Linux/etc, it is not MS's fault.

Course it is, course it is. Vista is basically a jab at Mac with all of it's shiny graphics. The best OS is Windows 2000, or if you want a little newer, XP.

didn't xp use more RAM than the older versions ? ... I think it's the same think every time we have a new OS ... since the days of windows 3.11 --> windows 95 ...

(are you crazy !!? ... why does this crap use 64MB of RAM :p !!? ...) or was it even less ^^; !?

didn't xp use more RAM than the older versions ? ... I think it's the same think every time we have a new OS ... since the days of windows 3.11 --> windows 95 ...

(are you crazy !!? ... why does this crap use 64MB of RAM :p !!? ...) or was it even less ^^; !?

Hardly, i got by on 256 of RAM which came with the old computer, 2GB for decent performance in Vista is a joke

I know my original post came off ignorant and trollish, that wasn't my intent. In my opinion, people who use Vista prior to SP1 (possibly SP2) are unknowingly beta testers for corporations/people who are waiting for it to stabilize.

A lot of people, including me, are waiting for MS to do to Vista what SP2 did to XP, make it mature and stable for a much wider crowd. I am confident MS will make Vista much more efficient and usable (without buying a brand new PC) that it is now. Question is, will they already be working on 7? Vista will be a flop if corporations don't heavily invest in it. So far, they're not; hence the expedited release of SP1.

This topic is now closed to further replies.
  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Posts

    • Nobody is buying a PS5 only for playing Until Dawn 2. Their loss.
    • If you actually used it instead of responding like a petulant child you might be surprised. I switched from Google some time ago and have been very satisfied.
    • I am one of the first people to use the DXVK technology. In the channel below you can see some videos that I have made using this technology, including Assassin's Creed Odyssey. https://www.youtube.com/@nahum7995/videos Assassin's Creed Odyssey experienced several bugs and technical issues during its first months after release. It launched with its own fair share of funny but frustrating glitches. I ran it on DXVK 9 days after its release and I played it for many hours but didn't see a single significant bug on Linux. Assassin's Creed Odyssey is widely celebrated for pushing the franchise in bold new directions and specifically for nailing several elements better than any other title in the AC series: Player Choice & Branching Narrative, The Mercenary & Cultist System, Mythological Integration, Overpowered Combat Abilities, Open World Exploration But what I'm trying to point out is that this game wasn't quite playable on most windows systems, until a few months after its release when most of the bugs were fixed. However, on Linux it ran completely flawless from day one, although DXVK had seen little development and refinement at the time. What do you think the situation will be in 2026 now that most bugs and glitches of DXVK have been completely eliminated? This is information from Google about these situations that I am quoting. In many cases, using DXVK (a translation layer that converts DirectX 9, 10, or 11 into Vulkan) can result in more stable frame times and higher performance than native Windows rendering. This happens primarily by bypassing driver overhead and multithreading draw calls that were previously restricted to a single CPU core. Older APIs (like DirectX 9 and 11) are largely single-threaded on the CPU side. DXVK translates these calls to Vulkan, which is highly multi-threaded. This reduces CPU-bound stuttering on weaker processors. In certain cases, GPU manufacturers (especially AMD) have significantly better and more modern Vulkan drivers than they do for legacy DirectX. Vulkan gives developers—and in this case, the translation layer—closer control over how resources are held in VRAM. This can prevent micro-stutters and sudden frame drops during chaotic gameplay. Yes, certain games, particularly older DirectX 9 to 11 titles, can run with fewer crashes on DXVK than on native Windows. By intercepting DirectX draw calls and translating them into the modern, highly efficient Vulkan API, DXVK bypasses the limitations and poor driver support that cause instability in aging game engines. PlayStation 1, PlayStation 2 and PlayStation 3 can be easily and perfectly emulated on Linux. In fact, modern Linux emulators offer high-performance upscaling, widescreen patches, and automatic controller mapping out of the box.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 PlayStation 1/2/3 games look drastically better on Linux thanks to resolution upscaling. Furthermore, it is also a fact that you cannot play many fun games on Windows either, isn't it? - The Nintendo Switch has an extensive library of exclusive games. - PlayStation has an extensive library of exclusive games - Android has "mobile-exclusive" games, meaning they are exclusive to mobile devices (iOS and Android) and aren't available on PC or consoles. And finally, it is also the case that in the next five years there will be games that millions of people will say you absolutely must play and that they want to play this specific game that released a few days ago. However, the other side of this story is that currently, absolutely no one cares that they cannot play these upcoming games right now.
    • Flameshot 14.0 RC3 by Razvan Serea Flameshot is a free and open-source, cross-platform tool to take screenshots with many built-in features to save you time. Using Flameshot is as simple as launching, dragging the selection box to cover the area you want to capture, making annotations as needed in on-screen and saving the shot to your computer, all with a very simple and straightforward interface. Flameshot allows users to simply upload their screenshots directly to the cloud in order to easily share it with others. You can upload your image directly to Imgur with a single click and share the URL with others. In-app screenshot editing - You can choose to add an arrow mark, highlight text, blur a section (blur or pixelate an area), add a text, draw something, add a rectangular/circular shaped border, add an incrementing counter number, and add a solid color box with Flameshot's built-in editing tools. Command-line interface (CLI) - Flameshot has several commands you can use in the terminal without launching the GUI via a command line interface. The command line interface lets you script Flameshot and use it as the subject of key binds. Flameshot 14.0 RC3 changelog: Translations update from Hosted Weblate by @weblate in #4612 Translations update from Hosted Weblate by @weblate in #4619 Fix pin position on Windows for scaled screen by @ElTh0r0 in #4614 Cmake Analyzers by @ElTh0r0 in #4613 Translations update from Hosted Weblate by @weblate in #4632 fix(macos): prevent config tab content from rendering behind tab bar by @Mitnitsky in #4627 fix(macos): use CGRequestScreenCaptureAccess instead of grabWindow for permission request by @Mitnitsky in #4617 Fix KDE Plasma keyboard shortcut config file by @ElTh0r0 in #4637 fix(macos): fix clipboard copy failing from tray and GUI by @Mitnitsky in #4629 feature(macos): show dock icon when config window is open by @Mitnitsky in #4628 Option to disable tray icon on Windows by @ElTh0r0 in #4634 Translations update from Hosted Weblate by @weblate in #4642 fix(macos): make fullscreen capture overlay configurable by @Mitnitsky in #4622 Update GH actions using Node.js 24 by @ElTh0r0 in #4660 fix issue with screen selection in non interactive mode by @borgmanJeremy in #4667 Uniformize both spec files + ninja build openSUSE by @QuentiumYT in #4658 screengrabber: pass non-empty parent_window to xdg-desktop-portal by @artefaktor93 in #4664 Allow multiple flameshot GUI instances (fix for #3177) by @ElTh0r0 in #4680 Unify Linux ARM CI into Linux CI (also drop QEMU) by @theofficialgman in #4702 respect system proxy settings by @borgmanJeremy in #4674 Replace ifdef LINUX with UNIX to include BSD systems by @ElTh0r0 in #4700 Download: Flameshot 14.0 RC3 | 18.1 MB (Open Source) Download: Flameshot Portable | 53.0 MB Links: Flameshot Home Page | Screenshot Get alerted to all of our Software updates on Twitter at @NeowinSoftware
  • Recent Achievements

    • One Month Later
      nothanks earned a badge
      One Month Later
    • One Month Later
      B2Proxy earned a badge
      One Month Later
    • One Year In
      MadMung0 earned a badge
      One Year In
    • Week One Done
      jefred earned a badge
      Week One Done
    • Apprentice
      JoeyNeo went up a rank
      Apprentice
  • Popular Contributors

    1. 1
      +primortal
      490
    2. 2
      PsYcHoKiLLa
      233
    3. 3
      Skyfrog
      78
    4. 4
      FloatingFatMan
      68
    5. 5
      Michael Scrip
      58
  • Tell a friend

    Love Neowin? Tell a friend!