AMD Trashtalks Intel Big Time, Claims All Innovation

[ANova]

AMD claims all innovation? 3DNow, an extension to x86 and an onboard memory controller, what an extensive list; the latter being the only actually useful bit.

[Miuku.]

I would say for the backwards compatibility that the x86 instruction set/mode offers, I am quite thankful.

I'm not. Do you have any idea how much the current generation of processors sacrifice efficiency to have backwards compatibility?

A tabula rasa approach would cost like hell but in the long run it would be vastly superior - unfortunately the capitalist world today is not interested in quality but how much something costs.

I would say PCI, especially since it was invented in 1990, was quite ahead of it's time then.

Actually it "won" against much better, more advanced and robust systems - unfortunately when pushed by large IT businesses the better solutions are often crushed - PCI is a great example, x86 itself is another. Windows is most likely the prime example of poor technology beating others due to marketing and large business control.

Perhaps you would like to bash the ISA bus as well?

Way to miss the point completely. When "ISA" bus was "hot", there were already much better technologies available but they refused to implement those - same with PCI.

especially considering the technology back then.

Considering x86 based machines didn't have sound production capabilities of machines produced in 1985 until early 90s or rather mid-90s, I don't know where you're coming with this?

The computer world is full of examples of dismal technology being adapted as the "standard" - Intel has been a large contributor to this trend - and yes, AMD does that as well.

[(Spork)]

amd is king they invented core 2 duo

i lol at this !

and i lol @ amd !

[zivan56]

I'm not. Do you have any idea how much the current generation of processors sacrifice efficiency to have backwards compatibility?

Well according to your logic, we should have all hopped onto the x64 bandwagen and x86 would have died because it is so "inefficient." Remind me again why nobody is pushing to get rid of x86 yet?

Actually it "won" against much better, more advanced and robust systems - unfortunately when pushed by large IT businesses the better solutions are often crushed - PCI is a great example, x86 itself is another. Windows is most likely the prime example of poor technology beating others due to marketing and large business control.

Well I'm sure they could have rivaled PCI-Express in those days if they added $1k to the cost of a computer. Your point being? PCI was the best system at the time and hence why it is still being used with no rush to get rid of it...

Way to miss the point completely. When "ISA" bus was "hot", there were already much better technologies available but they refused to implement those - same with PCI.

You wouldn't happen to have a betamax player in your home, would you? Nobody was told what they could or could not include, you are forgetting that there were a bunch of other system makers and CPU fabricators back in the day.

Considering x86 based machines didn't have sound production capabilities of machines produced in 1985 until early 90s or rather mid-90s, I don't know where you're coming with this?

I am not sure what you are asking here, but what does the popularity of the x86 architecture have to do with the development of the PCI bus? The PCI bus is used in a number of different architectures...

The computer world is full of examples of dismal technology being adapted as the "standard" - Intel has been a large contributor to this trend - and yes, AMD does that as well.

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Well the gasoline powered car is a "dismal technology" adopted as a standard, why is it still around?

[The_Decryptor Veteran]

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The computer world is full of examples of dismal technology being adapted as the "standard" - Intel has been a large contributor to this trend - and yes, AMD does that as well.

e.g. Firewire vs. USB.

Just because it's used more, doesn't mean it's the best.

[Jack 0Neill]

Processor wars... who freaking cares. As long as it does it's job it won't matter.