RIAA Now Filing Suits Against Consumers Who Rip CDs

[roadgeek9]

Also, why can't terrorists bomb the RIAA headquarters, at least people would be happier then

;)

[betasp]

Actually your wrong the moment you buy that cd its yours. That means physically and the music. HOWEVER even though you own the music to do with personnely anything you wish. EXCEPT you may not use it for public means. sharing,making copies to give to friends is not allowed. they are incorrect that you cant put it on your computer. the way the copyright law currently reads you MAY make copies ,put it on a mp3,computer etc. again riaa trying to make their own laws.

The ownership fo the music is not transfered to you upon purchase, therefore you do not own it. It is still the property of the copyright holder. They have granted you the right to listen to it for personal use, but you still won nothing but the physical media.

[roadgeek9]

The ownership fo the music is not transfered to you upon purchase, therefore you do not own it. It is still the property of the copyright holder. They have granted you the right to listen to it for personal use, but you still won nothing but the physical media.

:blink: I don't get it.

[gollux]

The Supreme Court disagrees with you..

Garbage URL, is this what you were referring to?

Sony Vs Universal. Add a period to the end of the URL when you get the 404, Neowin forum software is stripping it out of the URL.

All the same, they're trying to rope in people who've ripped CD's they have sole ownership over but have never shared music files with anyone here. They will demand that you rebuy MP3's they've encoded. That is their business model, you must rebuy 70 year old music every time its encapsulation changes, whether it's a vinyl record, CD, or just a file of a particular encoding. Since they're starting to release non-DRM music, expect them to start looking for ways of identifying the source of any MP3 that ever was produced. If it doesn't have the RIAA stamp of approval, you've been stealing from them, even if you have the ORIGINAL CD SITTING ON YOUR DESK NEXT TO THE COMPUTER YOU'RE PLAYING IT ON!

And then there's the Vinyl you may have inherited that was never released on CD because its being held hostage by the corporate owner. There's more to heritage music than Best of the 40's compilations.

Heck, they'd like you to buy an AAC for your iPod and then an MP3 for your non-iTunes system at work. The only answer is to go independent if you are serious about escaping liability. There are good musicians out there who are self publishing, make sure you support them and buy their music. It's time to put Corporate Sponsored Culture to rest.

Our judicial system is based on precedence. If you get enough rulings in your favor, you don't necessarily have to have laws to enforce when you have a backlog of court rulings you can cite where dumb judges and confused juries have imposed penalties.

Edited December 30, 2007 by gollux

[HideAndGoatse]

Honestly, why isn't the government stepping in? Can I have a real answer, if there is one. This is getting pretty big now and I think our leaders need to pay attention to it, none of the candidates have even touched base on this. I think they would get a pretty good increase in the early ~18 - 25 year old voters. I think it would show a great responsibility in our government, that we discipline the RIAA, showing that the government has control over some of the power hungry individuals down at the RIAA/MPAA.

[markwolfe Veteran]

Darn. I have made rips of several of my CDs on my computer for personal use.

I could not find a good "contact" page at RIAA.com, and could not find email contacts for any RIAA executives, so I just reported myself with their online form as a "physical" pirate.

Let's see if anything comes of this.

[roadgeek9]

I think it would show a great responsibility in our government, that we discipline the RIAA, showing that the government has control over some of the power hungry individuals down at the RIAA/MPAA.

+1

Agreed.

[RuudJacobs.NET]

Ehrr, so you can buy all the music you want as long as you don't listen to it ;)

[HideAndGoatse]

Darn. I have made rips of several of my CDs on my computer for personal use.

I could not find a good "contact" page at RIAA.com, and could not find email contacts for any RIAA executives, so I just reported myself with their online form as a "physical" pirate.

Let's see if anything comes of this.

Did you seriously do that....I hope you didn't, I know if something does happen, ripping a CD is NOT illegal, no matter what they say, but they could pull some ****...

[roadgeek9]

Darn. I have made rips of several of my CDs on my computer for personal use.

I could not find a good "contact" page at RIAA.com, and could not find email contacts for any RIAA executives, so I just reported myself with their online form as a "physical" pirate.

Let's see if anything comes of this.

Based on your sig, I assume you are using Linux. It must be a real mess for you, especially for DVD and MPEG formats.

[Shof]

Darn. I have made rips of several of my CDs on my computer for personal use.

I could not find a good "contact" page at RIAA.com, and could not find email contacts for any RIAA executives, so I just reported myself with their online form as a "physical" pirate.

Let's see if anything comes of this.

i bet they are preparing to come to door now and arrest you ;)

[markwolfe Veteran]

Did you seriously do that....I hope you didn't, I know if something does happen, ripping a CD is NOT illegal, no matter what they say, but they could pull some ****...

Yes. I seriously did.

Based on your sig, I assume you are using Linux. It must be a real mess for you, especially for DVD and MPEG formats.

I haven't wanted to watch movies on my computer. I have a TV for that. But those Linux users who dare install decss may find themselves running afoul of the MPAA. DVD Jon was repeatedly found not guilty in Norway, but I don't know of any cases in the US to test the legality of that.

EDIT: To avoid taking this thread off-topic with the specifics of my reaction to this news, I made a soapbox rant thread instead.

[Colin-uk Veteran]

P.S. In the article it says ok...so? Who is the RIAA? They are not the government, they are just a group of people, they don't make laws. If I put on my website "Every time you eat a candy bar, your fingers will fall off" and make that sound professional :rofl: then does that become law? No! Its just some cracked out people with too much money and big heads, they believe that they are the law and no one is going to stop them. We need the real government to get in on this.

They're not making laws up, they're stating existing law.

The physical media is yours, the stuff on it is licensed to you. You don't own it.

Exactly.

The Supreme Court disagrees with you.

I Believe that was just for betamax and VCR. This is CD's and MP3's.

[John S. Veteran]

If I can't rip CD's I purchase, then I've bought my last CD. I never play purchased CD's in my vehicle, I always rip 'em put the original up and burn what I want from it to throw in the truck.

[Brandon]

:rofl:

Additionally, you can call the RIAA at 1-800-BAD-BEAT to report any incidents of suspected music piracy.

[x-scratch]

i will rip my cds till the day i die nobodys gonna stop me from ripping my cds

& how the hell would they know if anybody rips cds they gonna start putting tracking devices on cds come on r.i.a.a is just a bunch of money hungry n/m i wont say how i feel without getting a warning

[Eric Veteran]

They're not making laws up, they're stating existing law.

Exactly.

I Believe that was just for betamax and VCR. This is CD's and MP3's.

Supreme Court decisions don't really decide the specific case that they are related to. They set precedents. The justices basically just say whether they side with the original decision or not.

[Shadrack]

Am I allowed to copy from CD to a tape to play in my old car stereo?

At this point it is unclear. The legality of you ripping a CD to your computer is currently unclear. The RIAA is pushing the issue that ripping one of your own CDs is illegal. But this hasn't been tested in court (up until now). I'm actually kinda surprised the RIAA is pushing the issue. It will be interesting to see how all this plays out.

[pyehac]

I thought they couldn't get any worse.

And if I remembered correctly, didn't they deem it 'illegal' for people to play music in the background? If so, then they can sue all of the malls, clubs, etc for that violation.

[roadgeek9]

Next thing you know, there will be the TVAA (Television Assn. of America) who will prevent bars from displaying NFL games with some alliance of the 2 organizations.

[revvo]

the industry maintains that it is illegal for someone who has legally purchased a CD to transfer that music into his computer.

The industry's lawyer in the case, Ira Schwartz, argues in a brief filed earlier this month that the MP3 files Howell made on his computer from legally bought CDs are "unauthorized copies" of copyrighted recordings.

Okay. How about sueing Apple for allowing us to transfer music from our CD's to our iPods, or Creative, or any other mp3 player maker?

I don't want to always pop a cd in to listen to it. I'll rip it as FLAC if it's an album I really love, or just as a mp3 vbr, and voila, then I can transfer those on my ipod instead of always reinserting a CD and then transfering from cd to ipod or I can just open foobar and listen for hours.

RIAA/CRIA/mafIAA suck and should go down like SCO Unix

[roadgeek9]

Don't think the RIAA wants you to do that. But you know what? WHO CARES? ;)

[hagjohn]

People have been copying from 1 form or another for their own use for over 30+ years. How can the music industry say you can't now? Doesn't the 30+ years of silence and allowance (unless I'm wrong, you could copy cassette tapes for your own use) void their bitching?

[roadgeek9]

People have been copying from 1 form or another for their own use for over 30+ years. How can the music industry say you can't now? Doesn't the 30+ years of silence and allowance (unless I'm wrong, you could copy cassette tapes for your own use) void their bitching?

I think the RIAA should go to Greenland and freeze to death.

[evo_spook]

I thought they couldn't get any worse.

And if I remembered correctly, didn't they deem it 'illegal' for people to play music in the background? If so, then they can sue all of the malls, clubs, etc for that violation.

depend, cause (in the uk anyway) they need a special license to play music, have that then they are ok.