Simon Veteran Posted January 23, 2008 Veteran Share Posted January 23, 2008 Alright, I'm sitting here, looking at an ISO for Shift 0.6 Gnome that is about 700MB. A lot of that is from OpenOffice. So I'm wondering, should we just get rid of OpenOffice? Vote in the poll. We'll probably have a simple shortcut to install OpenOffice in the Office menu, which would run the apt-get command for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CelticWhisper Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 I know Knoppix uses some kind of super-high compression and decompresses on-the-fly to fit more software in a CD. You could try keeping an LZMA-compressed archive of OpenOffice and then launching it via a script that decompresses it to memory/virtual memory before launching the actual binary. Just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Veteran Posted January 23, 2008 Author Veteran Share Posted January 23, 2008 I know Knoppix uses some kind of super-high compression and decompresses on-the-fly to fit more software in a CD. You could try keeping an LZMA-compressed archive of OpenOffice and then launching it via a script that decompresses it to memory/virtual memory before launching the actual binary.Just a thought. Everything is pretty well compressed already (Casper is what we (and Ubuntu) use, iirc). I don't think that's the answer, unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olemus Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 Get shot of it and put a apt-get link on the menu like you suggested or on the desktop or something. Anything that decreases dwonloads is a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor V. Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 I don't really like OpenOffice, but AbiWord is outstanding! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Veteran Posted January 23, 2008 Author Veteran Share Posted January 23, 2008 I don't really like OpenOffice, but AbiWord is outstanding! That's how I am, too. I think I'll at least get rid of OpenOffice Draw, since it's a fairly niche product. It's not very good, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slimy Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 I can't stand OpenOffice. It just feels "incomplete". I haven't tried the others on the list though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Posted January 23, 2008 Share Posted January 23, 2008 I can live without an office suite on my Linux box. If there's something I really need to do, I'll do it at work. I voted no and no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+jamesyfx Subscriber² Posted January 23, 2008 Subscriber² Share Posted January 23, 2008 I'd say most people who have Linux will have no need for a complete office solution anyway. Abiword will do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Veteran Posted January 23, 2008 Author Veteran Share Posted January 23, 2008 We have reasons why not, and yet the poll says for us to include it... I'm thinking at this point that the comments outweigh the results. Anyone have a reason why we shouldn't just put what's essentially a quick installer for OpenOffice in the Office menu? We're talking about saving a lot of space here. Meanwhile, I found more stuff to delete, so it's a bit smaller now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markwolfe Veteran Posted January 24, 2008 Veteran Share Posted January 24, 2008 Call me a stick-in-the-mud, or say that I am pandering to the masses, but most *nixers kind of expect OO.o. I would keep it, if at all possible. And, in a fit of contradiction, I also voted for Abiword and Gnumeric. Especially for fluxbox (where I would actually recommend to drop OO.o, as the flux version is targeted to lower-end computers). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Veteran Posted January 24, 2008 Author Veteran Share Posted January 24, 2008 Call me a stick-in-the-mud, or say that I am pandering to the masses, but most *nixers kind of expect OO.o. I would keep it, if at all possible.And, in a fit of contradiction, I also voted for Abiword and Gnumeric. Especially for fluxbox (where I would actually recommend to drop OO.o, as the flux version is targeted to lower-end computers). Haha, just trying to make things difficult, aren't you :p . I see your point, though. I have an ISO building right now, and we'll see if it's a reasonable size. Just a quick correction, it's squashfs we're using, not Casper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney T. Administrators Posted January 24, 2008 Administrators Share Posted January 24, 2008 I like Open Office myself. The main issue with it, as you stated, is that it takes up lots of real estate on a live cd. The app is very good, in my opinion, but if we use it, it may be at the expense of something else we might want. Abiword is a decent alternative, but as Mark said, most *nix fans expect OO.o in a distro. I voted for it, none the less. :yes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Veteran Posted January 24, 2008 Author Veteran Share Posted January 24, 2008 Alright, good news: we're at a human size right now: 635MB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonRedMk Member Posted January 25, 2008 Member Share Posted January 25, 2008 Shift Lite won't include Oo.o, it's Lite, remember? Using AbiWord and Gnumeric as replacements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathachew Veteran Posted January 25, 2008 Veteran Share Posted January 25, 2008 I voted no for a smaller size since it's so big, and performing updates on it = drag, at least when I last played with it in Ubuntu about a year ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angel Blue01 Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 I voted yes because its the only presenations/word processor/spreadsheet suite that's not KDE dependent and aleady has full MS Office support. Abiword is great for distros that target old computers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rage710 Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 Couldn't you just keep the Open Office Writer? Also, I think a apt-get link to it would be the best option, as it would reduce the size of the os (1) and it would allow the user to have a more up to date version (2) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angel Blue01 Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 Couldn't you just keep the Open Office Writer? No because OpenOffice is one giant program Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Veteran Posted January 27, 2008 Author Veteran Share Posted January 27, 2008 Actually, we could only include OpenOffice Writer, but after looking into it, we would only save about 10MB. If we removed everything OpenOffice related, it would be a lot more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TekMate Posted January 28, 2008 Share Posted January 28, 2008 I like to install and use Koffice myself so I would be OK with no Office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Phoenix Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 Well, I suggest using Abiword and Gnumeric for the Lite and GNOME versions, and KOffice for the KDE version. But OO.org should be an option... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slythfox Posted January 30, 2008 Share Posted January 30, 2008 I like Open Office myself. The main issue with it, as you stated, is that it takes up lots of real estate on a live cd. The app is very good, in my opinion, but if we use it, it may be at the expense of something else we might want. Abiword is a decent alternative, but as Mark said, most *nix fans expect OO.o in a distro.I don't expect it, except in an all purpose distribution.Abiword is still premature but usable. (I should start a blog critiquing open source projects at some point.) Anyway, be sure to remove any extra language packs. For example, KNOPPIX contains "Openoffice-de-en" which adds an extra 30mb onto the iso! I hate to be English oriented, but 30mb is too much for a single language, I'm sure there's another way to get language support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k311 Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 as a linux user who has migrated from windows, i still need to wine install MS office anyway (blasphemy i know but i really dont feel like reformatting lots of documents like my resume just for the sake of using openoffice...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borbus Posted February 28, 2008 Share Posted February 28, 2008 I only use LaTeX for documents. You should redo your resume in LaTeX, it will look more impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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