Firefox 3.0 Beta 3

[cswimbound]

Yes

The back and forward buttons don't look right at all IMO. If you use the small icons they'll switch to the other ones though.

They look alright, but the back button is too big I think. Looks out of place. Look at the space above the top of the back button compared to the bottom of it and it makes it look crooked. Little things like that drive me nuts :laugh:

EDIT: I just noticed there's no Home button

There is a home button. You just aren't looking hard enough to see it. It's located on the Bookmarks toolbar now.

[+Audioboxer Subscriber²]

What do you mean? If I download this I may be able to get them somehow?

Would like to know that as well.

I'm guessing FF 3 breaks support for most addons just now?

[DrCheese]

It does but if you use this addon

http://www.oxymoronical.com/web/firefox/nightly

then you can force most addons to work fine without any problems.

[devBrian]

Can't access anything with a mozilla .org domain to even download the thing right now. Anyone else have this problem?

[+Audioboxer Subscriber²]

It does but if you use this addon

http://www.oxymoronical.com/web/firefox/nightly

then you can force most addons to work fine without any problems.

Beta4 link seems to be dead for me :/

[PyX]

Errr, supposedly every program in OS X nowadays is multilanguage btw. It doesn't make the files much bigger, honestly, since you just have to change strings of text throughout the whole application, so I don't know how many KB per language, but not a lot.

My torrent app, for instance, is transmission. It has 6 languages and is only 5.1 MB...

[Skyfrog]

There is a home button. You just aren't looking hard enough to see it. It's located on the Bookmarks toolbar now.

I hate that, I always turn off that toolbar. Some other browser used to stick the Home button there also, I think it was the old Mozilla Suite or maybe Opera. I just don't get the point of moving it off the main toolbar. The Home button has been where it is since browsers came into existance.

[supernova_00]

Vista icons (put in userChrome.css but make sure to delete this before beta 4/final release):

.toolbarbutton-1 { 
  list-style-image: url("Toolbar_aero.png") !important; 
} 
toolbar[iconsize="large"][mode="icons"] #unified-back-forward-button > #back-forward-dropmarker { 
  list-style-image: url("Toolbar_aero.png") !important; 
}

The home button is now on the bookmarks toolbar but you can move it back via view->toolbars->customize..., drag and drop the icon back to the navigation toolbar.

[+Cryton Subscriber²]

I hate that, I always turn off that toolbar. Some other browser used to stick the Home button there also, I think it was the old Mozilla Suite or maybe Opera. I just don't get the point of moving it off the main toolbar. The Home button has been where it is since browsers came into existance.

You can move the Home button from the toolbar and place it on the nav bar where it used to live, fwiw.

[wilbert]

Kinda stinks that they still do not have the UI ready for Vista. I thought this was supposed to happen with B3?

I have started to use Firefox less and less since IE7 was released. Plus it was annouced that they will be demoing or at least talking about IE 8 at MIX'08 in a few weeks. I will be looking forward to seeing were Microsoft is going with IE8

[david13lt]

Kinda stinks that they still do not have the UI ready for Vista. I thought this was supposed to happen with B3?

I have started to use Firefox less and less since IE7 was released. Plus it was annouced that they will be demoing or at least talking about IE 8 at MIX'08 in a few weeks. I will be looking forward to seeing were Microsoft is going with IE8

I can not believe that someone is still using such thing as IE. IE6 and 7 is good only for plain HTML files. Try to write decent Web 2.0 application for IE and other browsers and tell me if you want to use IE ever.

I can give you a hit, 60+% could be wrong for IE and require it to rewrite only for IE. And between Opera, Safari and FireFox 8-6%, usually maybe ~2% will require some special work.

Every page in web should suggest users to use other browser than IE 6 and 7. About 8 I can not say much now, first web developers should decide how well it handles W3C standards and how different rendering types works in real worlds.

[Quillz]

Downloaded it for Mac OS, it really does look great now (especially in Leopard). Now finally it is written natively in Cocoa (or at least it looks like it is :|). There's a lot of layout problems in the preferences pane, but seriously I am very surprised. When I saw the interface on a screenshot a couple of months ago, I told myself it was a pure copy of Safari, but apparently they tweaked a few things and the layout is a little different. Oh yeah, it also needs to include every language by default, we're not supposed to choose which language we want to download FF in.

Thumbs up for this release! Finally FF follows OS X standards...

It doesn't use Cocoa, it's just using a theme that looks like the native OS X look...

[NightmarE D]

Why is the Home button located in the bookmarks toolbar now? That doesn't really make any sense. I always close that. That's why I didn't notice it the first time.

[ViperAFK]

Vista icons (put in userChrome.css but make sure to delete this before beta 4/final release):

.toolbarbutton-1 { 
  list-style-image: url("Toolbar_aero.png") !important; 
} 
toolbar[iconsize="large"][mode="icons"] #unified-back-forward-button > #back-forward-dropmarker { 
  list-style-image: url("Toolbar_aero.png") !important; 
}

The home button is now on the bookmarks toolbar but you can move it back via view->toolbars->customize..., drag and drop the icon back to the navigation toolbar.

All that did was give me no icons, I had to download the icons linked here for it to work (Using beta 3 from the link in this thread and vista)

http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=625097

[shakey_snake]

Why is the Home button located in the bookmarks toolbar now? That doesn't really make any sense.

Why not?

All the Home button really is is a glorified bookmark. Even more so if you use session restore.

Seems like a better default placement, to me, honestly.

[Ayepecks]

Because many people don't use the bookmarks toolbar.

[1Frothy]

So is the toolbar nice and transparent in Vista or is it just the oversized right and left arrows? I hope they invest a bit of time and makes the address bar and toolbar the same sort of transparent design as IE 7.

[PyX]

Nah i think it uses native cocoa as i saw it as a major change they wanted to bring in os x , according to their roadmap. Not 100 percent sure though...

[shakey_snake]

Because many people don't use the bookmarks toolbar.

We're talking about default placement. The bookmarks toolbar is shown, by default, so I don't get your point.

[Skyfrog]

I turn if off myself, I figured most people do. Having an entire toolbar taking up space just to show the Home button seems ridiculous. Yeah I know it shows bookmarks too but a toolbar is far too small for such a thing. I have hundreds of bookmarks. Just my opinion but I think putting the home button there is a dumb idea.

Finally got to install and try it though, and I had no problem dragging it back where it belongs. :)

Edited February 13, 2008 by Skyfrog

[shakey_snake]

^ :rolleyes: :no:

If you right-click and go to customize, you can drag it onto a different toolbar, just like anything else, just like you have always been able to.

Edited February 13, 2008 by shakey_snake

[McoreD]

Anybody got del.icio.us Addon working with this build? :)

[Angel Blue01]

I always show the boomak bar, its for bookmarks I use often. They should never change the layout of the browser, which is why I hate IE7's layout, although I still find it (Trident) fast enough to use in Windows rather than Firefox.

[Ayepecks]

We're talking about default placement. The bookmarks toolbar is shown, by default, so I don't get your point.

My point is many people aren't even going to see it as they automatically close the bookmarks toolbar... and if it's there by default, common users may never know :)

[+Cryton Subscriber²]

http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all-beta.html