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[Rappy Veteran]

I would like to see an Edge vs Christian feud

[Rappy Veteran]

Hulk Hogan was on Bubba the Love Sponge today, and stated that he will be booking TNA and that he will oversee changes in the company. He also said that his contract says nothing about wrestling, and that he will be running the show. Hogan then said that he would be giving Vince Russo another chance, and that TNA is spending big money now.

^^ big money sounds alot like WCFail ^^

[+Nik Louch Subscriber²]

In what way has Hogan proven himself to be of ANY use running a wrestling company? As soon as he get's any say backstage, he ****s things up.

[Rappy Veteran]

yeah TNA is doomed long term I feel anyway but atm they are riding high

[LOC Veteran]

Hogan isn't going to run TNA. He's going to book it. Big difference. Eventually politics may play a role but in the end Dixie Carter is in charge.

I wonder how Jeff Jarrett feels about this one....

[timster]

The biggest news of the wrestling world, right now anyway, is that the Immortal Hulk Hogan has signed on to become a member of TNA wrestling. Hulk has spurned former employer WWE and Vince McMahon in order to help upstart promotion TNA become a bigger entity in the wrestling landscape. I wrote a column awhile ago saying this would be a very smart move for TNA to do and most disagreed, but either way it has now officially happened. The press TNA is getting for this signing alone right now has been worth the signing but what the long term effect is going to be has yet to reveal itself. There has been a lot of rumor but no one is saying anything concrete at the moment.

We also know that Eric Bischoff and Jason Hervey have also signed a deal with TNA to help with the Bischoff-Hervey production company. What Bischoff will be getting from this deal is also not known at the moment. It could be TV shows that will be shown on Spike TV but again, that has also yet to be defined. We do know that Ric Flair signed a three year deal with Bischoff?s agency so perhaps Flair will either be apart of TNA as well or possibly become a star in a new TV series. Again either way that is a subject worth following closely to see where that all ends up. TNA is generating some intrigue and that is a vital key in the wrestling business. Water cooler buzz is of the utmost importance to draw in new viewers.

Hogan has stated that the deal he signed was directly with Bob Carter and that Hulk will not only have full autonomy over TNA but will also have more power within the company than even President Dixie Carter, the daughter of the owner. I would imagine that rumor will be confirmed or put to bed quickly because that will be a huge situation for the company going forward. Do I think this is true, no, but I also believe that some major deal would have to be put in place for Hogan because Hulk knows full well that this will burn his last bridge within WWE. Hulk will have a say for sure in the direction of the company but it may only be what pertains to his character and nothing more.

Hogan has said that the six sided ring will go back to a standard and traditional four sided ring. The six sided ring has not done anything to attract viewers and make it feel more like UFC. It can be said that it differentiates itself from WWE but truth be told, it has not done anything to help ratings and a four sided ring will not help nor hurt the product but it will accomplish one thing. That thing is taking TNA back to an old school feel and that is another thing that Hogan has vowed. Jim Cornette has also stated that Hogan will attempt to make TNA fell like a more traditional wrestling program like old school WWF. I like that idea a lot and I truly hope that TNA does follow this direction because it will work. Yes new fans may not like this idea but it could be very interesting to have an old school feel with young talent in ring work.

The worst thing about WWE and Cornette stated this as well and I have said it for along time, is that creative team members with zero knowledge of wrestling are writing promos for wrestlers and not allowing natural charisma to shine through. Wrestlers are forced to read scripts and that makes all wrestlers sound and act way too much alike and that is why no new main event stars have been created in WWE for the last five years. If TNA goes back to allowing talents to read bullet points but ad lib the rest with the talents own abilities then a lot more stars will be created in TNA. TNA has also not created new, big money, stars within the industry but that could all change if done correctly. Yes TNA does most of the promo idea already but Hogan can help talent with charisma since no one has more within this business.

As much as Hogan is full of himself in saying that Hulk taught Vince how to run a wrestling promotion, Hulk probably does have a lot of knowledge in how a company is to be run correctly. Hulk and Bischoff know what is right and what went terribly wrong in WCW and why it died. Hogan claims that he will be running creative and again I highly doubt that but Hulk will lend ideas for sure. Also as Cornette stated, TNA has the same creative team that killed WCW and never had any good ideas during their tenure so why would they now? It is not news that Hogan hates Vince Russo and will have issues with the terrible ideas Russo usually writes but does Hogan know how to write a wrestling program and deserve to be head writer?

I would think Hogan will have only creative control on himself and not autonomy over the entire roster. I have no idea yet what is real and what is false. We can only wait and see for ourselves what TNA becomes now with Hulk Hogan in the company. Hulk has given a list of talents that Hulk would like hired by WWE and we know the usual names will be on the list. What TNA can not do is allow Hogan to bring in old talents while young up and comers get released because of cost cutting. That killed WCW and allowed WWE to not only defeat WCW in ratings, but also put WCW out of business. I would hate to see guys like Brian Knobbs and Brutus Beefcake getting jobs while guys like Chris Sabin and AJ Styles get released. TNA does not need names, it has not worked to date, TNA needs strong storylines.

Bottom line:

Like the idea of Hogan in TNA or not it has happened. Hogan will bring viewers to the product if for nothing else then to see what Hulk does and with whom. Fans will see if Hogan is for real in his claims and what that means to the TNA product. There is enough intrigue to get wrestling fans to give TNA a chance to see what the company offers and that is what TNA should be striving for. TNA will get an opportunity to compete against a very poor WWE product now and WWE should be very worried about the TNA uprising. WWE Raw has been so bad for so long that it is ripe for the picking. TNA needs to listen to Hulk?s ideas and use what will work but not be afraid to deny what will cripple the company?s growth. Hulk will not have all the answers but Hulk will have some and if those some work, TNA will be a bigger force within the wrestling industry.

Get ready TNA fans because Hulk is ready to rule TNA, be aware WWE because that just might mean that someday soon TNA will just end up ruling you. You have just read another chapter of the Forzese Files and as always feedback is greatly appreciated.

Jim Forzese

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from 1wrestling.com

[Rappy Veteran]

funny it mentions brian knobbs there I was saying the other day on msn to a mate I wouldn't be surprised if he brings in the nasty boys as road agents

[LOC Veteran]

Isn't the other guy from the nasty boys kinda, dead? :|

[Rappy Veteran]

Isn't the other guy from the nasty boys kinda, dead? :|

nope just isn't around as much as knobbs

[LOC Veteran]

Hmmm, coulda swore he died years ago. Ah well, good for him that he's still living then lol

I doubt Hogan would bring in the nasty boys though...that's scraping the barrel, seriously. I mean, maybe knobbs as a singles wrestler (if he's even in wrestling shape) but not as a tag team.

I'm more interested in seeing how Hogan is going to book AJ Styles and Sting etc. I wonder what Sting said to Hogan when they saw each other (if they have yet that is).

Sting "Hey Terry how's it hanging brotha?"

Hogan "You are so buried man, you shoulda retired at Bound for Glory"

Sting "Screw this I'm going to WWE to wrestle HBK"

[Rappy Veteran]

Hmmm, coulda swore he died years ago. Ah well, good for him that he's still living then lol

I doubt Hogan would bring in the nasty boys though...that's scraping the barrel, seriously. I mean, maybe knobbs as a singles wrestler (if he's even in wrestling shape) but not as a tag team.

I'm more interested in seeing how Hogan is going to book AJ Styles and Sting etc. I wonder what Sting said to Hogan when they saw each other (if they have yet that is).

Sting "Hey Terry how's it hanging brotha?"

Hogan "You are so buried man, you shoulda retired at Bound for Glory"

Sting "Screw this I'm going to WWE to wrestle HBK"

:rofl: @ dialog!

[LOC Veteran]

BTW, did Mark Henry get some sort of new "aura" or something? You guys hear the freaking pops he's getting? I mean I know "face" Mark Henry was hot but jesus lol

And wow, is WWE actually pushing Kofi Kingston PROPERLY? Or will Orton totally destroy him at Survivor Series etc?

[timster]

BTW, did Mark Henry get some sort of new "aura" or something? You guys hear the freaking pops he's getting? I mean I know "face" Mark Henry was hot but jesus lol

And wow, is WWE actually pushing Kofi Kingston PROPERLY? Or will Orton totally destroy him at Survivor Series etc?

i have a feeling the push will end and Orton will be thrown another "win"

[LOC Veteran]

Probably.

I really, really want to see a Kofi/Jericho fued. Man the matches those two could put on would be unreal imo.

Jericho is the BEST in the biz for the past 2 years or so since his return. He's just amazing. His new heel persona is just awesome and he's not only golden on the mic but he's golden in the ring. WWE was smart to finally bring him back when they did and they'd be stupid not to put the strap on him again (one of the two straps anyways lol).

We all know there's gonna be a face Edge vs. Jericho fued when Edge comes back, which will be AWESOME. Hell maybe they could involve Christian and make it a 3-way fued.

[Rappy Veteran]

Kofi deserves a push into the bigger titles (Y)

[timster]

hey. i caught the Dragongate USA: Untouchable PPV on Dish Network and saw Brian Kendrick [yes, 'The' Brian Kendrick] lose to a guy called CIMA. pretty good stuff, more in-ring action than WWE too

[Rappy Veteran]

wow Brian Kendrick has come down! is that stuff any good back in the day when there was WCW and WWE I used to watch the Mexican wrestling CMLA it might of been can't quite remember on satellite channels this was like 12 years ago and I used to love it.

[timster]

wow Brian Kendrick has come down! is that stuff any good back in the day when there was WCW and WWE I used to watch the Mexican wrestling CMLA it might of been can't quite remember on satellite channels this was like 12 years ago and I used to love it.

is 'decent' at best. old WCW Thunder tapes are probably more entertaining. i guess because this is more a wrestling show than the "entertainment" [or lack thereof] we are used to with WWE and TNA

if you want to see an actual wrestling match check out Dragongate

however, it is not worth the $19.95 USD I am not paying to watch it

[Rappy Veteran]

haha have you heard of CZW? we used to get that on a channel we had here called the Wrestling Channel...needless to say the channel went bankrupt! but CZW was like old school ECW

[LOC Veteran]

The following elimination matches are now confirmed for the WWE Survivor Series PPV:

--Team Kofi vs. Team Orton

Team Kofi: Kofi Kingston, MVP, R-Truth, Mark Henry & Christian

Team Orton: Randy Orton, Ted DiBiase, Cody Rhodes, CM Punk & William Regal

--Team Morrison vs. Team Miz

Team Morrison: John Morrison, Matt Hardy, Evan Bourne, Shelton Benjamin & Fit Finlay

Team Miz: The Miz, Drew McIntyre, Sheamus, Dolph Ziggler & Jack Swagger

--Team Mickie vs. Team Michelle

Team Mickie: Mickie James, Eve Torres, Kelly Kelly, Melina & Gail Kim

Team Michelle: Michelle McCool, Jillian Hall, Beth Phoenix, Layla & Alicia Fox

[Rappy Veteran]

lets go team Mickie :D

[LOC Veteran]

Let's go team Mickie (porno star!)!

[red.]

Why is Natalya not in that match?

[Rappy Veteran]

Let's go team Mickie (porno star!)!

:rofl:

[Rappy Veteran]

Hulk Hogan called in to Bubba The Love Sponge's satellite radio show this morning and as always, the Hogan hype machine was in full force. During the Hogan said that some big names in the pro wrestling world could be headed to TNA Wrestling.

Hogan said we could see Steve Austin, Randy Savage and the Nasty Boys in the future. Steve Austin is a working actor and it's highly unlikely he'd ever appear for any company outside of WWE. Hogan said he's buried the hatchet after a long personal feud with Randy Savage, who is 56 years old and did not look very good during his last TNA run several years ago. The Nasty Boys are close with Hogan and actually could wind up in TNA at some point.

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:rofl: you see they still have it! :p

plus next week the host is the Hot Rod!