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[MightyJordan]

^ Well, it's not confirmed at the moment, but it'll be a real shame if he goes. That's karma for ya. We get a slither of hope with The Great Khali leaving WWE, but JoMo balances it out. :(

He'd definitely be a good asset in TNA though. But they obviously wouldn't utilise him properly. TNA's all about Hogan, Bischoff, Sting, and Angle.He'd be better utilised in ROH. The World's/Wrestling's Greatest Tag Team are doing good there; they're the current tag champs. :)

[Rappy Veteran]

^^

yeah plus ROH is actually kinda respected by WWE seeing as they sign their talents so he could easily come back

[MightyJordan]

Up for a bit of a shocker? Jim Ross' firing was NOT in the script. :o

Jim Ross being called in to the ring and told he was "fired" and then tipped his hat and walked out was an unplanned segment for Ross according to F4Wonline.

They are reporting that the segment of John Laurinaitis "firing" Ross wasn't in the script. It has been said that JR's wife was sitting in the front row and could be seen getting very excited when her husband was getting in the ring and then had no idea that being "fired" was taking place on that night.

As he normally does, Ross has been answering questions with fans on Twitter and has stated that it was "embarrassing."

Regarding last night's show, it's said that what ended up airing was almost nowhere near what was originally wrote. Everything on last night's show was re-written more than once.

Makes you wonder if Vince Russo is secretly controlling the WWE writers. Now THAT would be a conspiracy! :p

[Rappy Veteran]

[LOC Veteran]

How many freaking times is the WWE going to embarrass Jim Ross on air like that? And how many times is Jim Ross going to take it and not give the middle finger to WWE for it? Moronic.

As for Morrison, good riddance if he leaves. That's what happens when you sleep with Melina the ho. If he does go to TNA, he's guaranteed to be World Champion there!

[MightyJordan]

Brock Lesnar in WWE '12 video

Ahh yes, I read that last night. Glad to see Brock and WWE have (sort of) made up. :) If he leaves the UFC, it'd be great to see him back in WWE.

How many freaking times is the WWE going to embarrass Jim Ross on air like that? And how many times is Jim Ross going to take it and not give the middle finger to WWE for it? Moronic.

As for Morrison, good riddance if he leaves. That's what happens when you sleep with Melina the ho. If he does go to TNA, he's guaranteed to be World Champion there!

Yeah, Jim Ross has the patience of a saint. I wonder if one day, he'll snap and just leave and go to TNA. He'd work really well with Tazz there. :) Speaking of Tazz, he's obviously doing pretty well, as he's got his own commentary section on Botchamania now. :p He joins the ranks of

and Booker T.

Bit harsh on Melina there, aren't you? She isn't really a ho; well not backstage at least. Sunny (Tammy Lynn Sytch), on the other hand, she's definitely a ho. That's been well documented by a few shoot interviews from other wrestler, including Kevin Nash, who said that she slept around the locker room. As well as The Sandman, who's said she once saw her blowing Raven on top of a roof, and another time, he went to the boiler room backstage in an arena to get high, and when he walked in, he saw her blowing off Sabu! Now THAT'S a ho!

Then again, Sunny's probably 2nd overall when it comes to the biggest hos in wrestling. Looks like Missy Hyatt takes that "honour" by a mile. Here's one example of that, a shoot interview she did with Sunny 9 years ago (obviously NSFW). And what's being said there came right from her! I'll give a quick example of Missy and The Sandman:

Sandman and her outside the ring- They had sex, but only twice because she was f***ing someone else. When the interviewer asks who, she says “I don’t know… probably the pizza delivery boy.” Her book starts with the whole Sandman-Raven storyline that she was involved in. She claims that Sandman was so nervous and such a mark for her that the only way to get the sexual tension of the storyline to work was to let him f**k her so “I did it for the business… what a sick thing to say.” She denies rumors of a threesome with Sandman and his wife by talking about how “she’s a dog.”

[MightyJordan]

Another good read from Bleacher Report...

WWE Raw General Manager John Laurinaitis's 5 Worst Real-Life Decisions

John Laurinaitis' portrayal as a heavily disliked, bumbling authority figure didn't come about as a happy accident.

For starters, he's the one person in the company given the responsibility of firing people personally. Even though it's not usually his decision, this has garnered him much animosity from wrestlers.

He's also made a number of baffling moves behind the scenes in his role as head of talent relations and previously as a road agent/producer in both WWE and WCW. Some of his mistakes have become legendary.

If you're not familiar with his history, then prepare for your mind to be blown.

No. 5: The Swimsuit Models

In 2006, Vice President of Talent Relations John Laurinaitis suddenly hired two bikini models straight out of a catalog. These two models were 20-year-old Victoria Crawford (now Alicia Fox) and 19-year-old Barbara Blank (now Kelly Kelly).

While models with no wrestling experience had been recruited into the company in the past via the Diva Search competitions, they sent feelers out to various modeling agencies as opposed to ordering hot models out of a bikini catalog.

Naturally, there was plenty of speculation about what the end game was. When the models were sent to developmental promotion OVW to try to learn how to wrestle, it was reported that the wrestlers were ordered not to have carnal relations with either of them.

Mikey Batts was fired shortly thereafter as punishment for an unnamed disciplinary issue. Maybe the two situations were unrelated, but the instructions given to the developmental wrestlers still say a lot, don't they?

No. 4: Green with Envy

Northern Ireland native Dave "Fit" Finlay was one of the most underrated wrestlers in the business for much of his career, which started in 1974 when he was 16 years old.

He came to WCW in the U.S. in 1996. In 1999, he was thrown into the promotion's new hardcore division. WCW being WCW, the table that was to be broken during one house show match was made of formica instead of the usual safer particle board.

Finlay went though it, it shattered, and shards stabbed him in the leg, severing nerves and paralyzing him below the knee. He became a road agent/producer and assumed the same role in WWE when they bought out WCW's assets.

Having been in ring shape when training some of the Divas, he decided to come back and convinced his bosses in WWE to use him. Now known simply as Finlay, he was introduced with vignettes at the end of 2005 and debuted shortly after the start of the new year, looking like the best wrestler in the world.

For whatever reason, John Laurinaitis was really negative on Finlay wrestling, even though a Finlay was a brilliant player/coach for younger wrestlers in addition to being entertaining to watch. I don't know if it was jealousy or what, but he wanted Finlay sabotaged.

Sabotage came in the form of a leprechaun named Little B*stard (indy wrestler Dylan Postl, who had worked as Shortstack) who lived under the ring and assisted Finlay. Finlay being Finlay, he made it work, using Little ****** as a weapon who he discarded under the ring.

Laurinaitis failed, as the leprechaun (who was eventually renamed Hornswoggle) actually enhanced Finlay's act. Finlay was a WWE mainstay for the next four years until Laurinaitis eventually got his way and Finlay stopped wrestling in 2010.

No. 3: Overhauling the Developmental System

At the beginning of 2007, WWE had two developmental promotions: Danny Davis's Ohio Valley Wrestling based out of the Louisville, Kentucky area and Joe Hamilton's Deep South Wrestling near Atlanta, Georgia. One day, WWE representatives showed up at the Deep South training center, were in shock over how badly they felt it was being run, and they immediately ended the affiliation.

This left WWE with a bunch of developmental wrestlers who didn't have a place to work and train. Booker T saw an opening and made a pitch to get the new developmental opening.

He had opened his Pro Wrestling Alliance school and promotion in 2005 and gotten good reviews for his efforts. He upgraded his facility and secured TV production equipment so he could take over Deep South's spot. In addition to the infrastructure being in place, WWE would have an active main event level wrestler training the developmental talent on his days off.

Meanwhile, then WWE road agent/producer Steve Keirn made his own pitch to Vice President of Talent Relations John Laurinaitis. He would open his own school and promotion in Tampa called Florida Championship Wrestling. With so many current and former WWE wrestlers in Tampa, they could drop by and help out when needed.

Laurinaitis went with FCW, angering Booker T to the degree it was a major sticking point that led to his departure from the company. When FCW opened in June that year, Laurinaitis was promoted to Senior Vice President of Talent Relations.

There was one big problem: FCW had to be built from scratch. Several months went by before they could run shows and shoot TV school, as there were no restrooms in the building.

To make things worse, WWE dropped its affiliation with OVW in February 2008, moving all developmental talent to FCW. With 60 developmental wrestlers in FCW, they weren't getting nearly enough ring time both in the school and in front of fans.

Eventually, Wrestling Observer Newsletter editor Dave Meltzer revealed why Laurinaitis was so gun-ho about FCW: He loved the party scene in the area, so any business trips to FCW would be also be very pleasurable for him, because really, that's what's important, isn't it?

No. 2: The World's Biggest Brainfart

Randy Orton feuded with The Undertaker throughout 2005 in a series of great matches. During the feud, Orton's father, "Cowboy" Bob Orton Jr., joined in to accompany his son and interfere in his matches.

The feud was set to culinate in a Hell in a Cell match. In the weeks before the match, Bob tested positive for Hepatitis C, a blood-borne liver illness. He explained that he tested positive as a teenager, never developed any symptoms, and pretty much forgot about it that day.

Vice President of Talent Relations John Laurinaitis was made aware of the diagnosis. He was also aware that The Undertaker and both Ortons were going to bleed in the match, which they did. Still, for whatever reason, he didn't mention this to The Undertaker.

Not long after the match, The Undertaker spoke to the company doctor involved in the case, as they were good friends. The doctor told 'Taker what happened, and he was furious.

Thankfully, he tested negative for Hepatitis C. Somehow, Laurinaitis went unpunished for this dangerous error in judgment, though Cowboy Bob was fired.

If you're wondering how this can't be the number one ridiculous Laurinaitis moment, that's because it didn't become the defining moment of his career like what you're about to read in the next slide did.

No. 1: That One-Legged Guy

In early 2003, rookie "Tenacious Z" Zach Gowen was making a name for himself on Midwest independent wrestling scene. It wasn't hard for him to stand out: He was a pretty good high flier who only had one leg.

While he lost his left leg to cancer as a child, he was a good athlete and became proficient at various flips on a trampoline, even when he he didn't have his prosthesis on. He started training at current Ring of Honor manager Truth Martini's wrestling school after he turned 18 and started wrestling (again, without his prosthesis) a couple weeks before his 19th birthday.

In early 2003, he made a couple appearances for TNA, but like many wrestlers who made a shot or two with TNA, he didn't have a contract. With his buzz increasing, WWE talent scouts wanted to sign him before TNA did and told John Laurinaitis (who was being groomed to replace Jim Ross as Vice President of Talent Relations) to sign the one-legged guy they had been hearing.about.

Laurinaitis made some calls to try to find the one-legged guy. A native Floridian, he spoke to some friends who directed him to Steve Chamberland, a big, burly one-legged wrestler who lost the limb in question in a motorcycle accident and wrestled with his prosthesis on.

So yes, not only did he get in touch with the wrong one-legged guy, but the wrong one-legged guy was the complete opposite of Zach Gowen and nobody had ever heard of him.

Nowadays, the urban legend is that Laurinaitis signed Chamberland to a WWE contract. I'd love to confirm that to put the cherry on top of this story, but according to a contemporary report from PWTorch.com, it never got that far.

[LOC Veteran]

Well let's put it this way. She was boning Batista (and others supposedly) and Morrison totally either denies or doesn't see what who she was doing (is doing). Regardless, she slept around, both when she wasn't dating Morrison and now when she has been dating him. I doubt that's the entire story, but the IWC sure doesn't like her much. Personally, eh. She was alright. Nothing special in the ring of course compared to say, Lita or Trish Stratus etc.

But hey, if Morrison isn't going to resign with WWE, they can both go to TNA and we'll see what happens I guess :p

[Rappy Veteran]

Ahh yes, I read that last night. Glad to see Brock and WWE have (sort of) made up. :) If he leaves the UFC, it'd be great to see him back in WWE.

yeah he could be perfect for a return imo, imagine him destroying Mark Henry!

[htcz]

The tag match Im seeing Triple H betraying CM Punk and both going to a Hell In A Cell match and PLEASE let it be decent.....

[MightyJordan]

Just felt like posting an old video from another promotion called Chikara. This lot know if you're gonna do PG wrestling, you might as well go the whole way. :p

Vince Russo, eat your heart out! He failed to create comedy with genuine wrestlers, yet Chikara manages to put over a guy in a foam dragon outfit! :laugh:

[MightyJordan]

Breaking news on WWE's PPV plans for the next five months

Obviously, a lot of (potential) future spoilers, so I won't quote the article here, but you can read it here: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/891941-breaking-news-on-wwes-ppv-plans-for-the-next-five-months

[calimike]

According to Dave Meltzer's Wrestling Observer Newsletter, John Morrison leave WWE when contract is up?

Partial Source: http://www.pro-wrestling.com/displaynews.php?area=1&sid=24892

I don't need him in WWE. He's useless bored! Is he bound for TNA or NJPW?

[MightyJordan]

Episode 35 of "Z! True Long Island Story". You know what? They're building up a better rivalry here than HHH/Laurinaitis. :p

[MightyJordan]

OK, due to WWE being currently on their tour of Mexico, tomorrow night's RAW was recorded last night, so the results are already out.

I won't spoil the results here, so go to this link if you want to see them now: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/895849-wwe-monday-night-raw-supershow-101711-full-spoilers/

All I will say at the moment is three new matches were announced for Vengeance (one of them a title match), and one of the previously announced matches now has a stipulation on top of it.

[MightyJordan]

I bloody called it! Sin Cara (Mistico) vs. Sin Cara (Hunico) in a Luchas de Apuestas match! :p Happens this week on SmackDown (which has already happened, BTW; and - SPOILER ALERT! -

Mistico won, just like I predicted

).

[MightyJordan]

"In accordance with its Talent Wellness Program, WWE has suspended Heath Miller (Heath Slater) for 30 days effective immediately for his first violation of the company’s policy."

Well at least we won't see the ginger jobber on TV for a month! :)

Although, it could end up being permanent. A couple of months ago, a story emerged that he was accused of assaulting a female security guard at a hotel in Atlanta, Georgia during the WrestleMania weekend this year. Apparently, the incident is still being investigated, so if it concludes during his suspension and he's charged with the assault, WWE will probably want to avoid the bad press and just simply "wish him well in his future endeavours".™

[timster]

The TD Garden in Boston has released the following for the episode of RAW on 11/14/11.

FINALLY THE ROCK COMES BACK TO BOSTON!

A SPECIAL THREE HOUR EDITION OF WWE MONDAY NIGHT RAW SUPERSHOW AT TD GARDEN.

NEW START TIME OF 7:15 PM.

What will happen when seven time WWE Champion, "the most electrifying man in all of entertainment" The Rock and 10 time WWE Champion John Cena meet in Cena's hometown?

John Cena, Randy Orton and CM Punk vs. The Miz, R-Truth and Mark Henry in a 6 man tag team match. Also, a special appearance by Mick Foley!

Also see all of your favorite WWE superstars including:

Randy Orton

Mark Henry

Sheamus

Christian

Dolph Ziggler

Kofi Kingston

And More!!!

[RageOfFury]

http://espn.go.com/v...id=espn:7124904

In his prime, Scott Hall was a mountain of a man - 6-foot-7, 290 pounds of solidly sculptured muscle, appearing as close as invincible as they come. As Razor Ramon, he was one of professional wrestling's biggest names and most villainous villains, busting chairs with the likes of Randy Savage, Bret Hart and Hulk Hogan in front of tens of thousands of screaming fans in sold-out arenas. And he loved the life that came with it: the parties, the women, the celebrity. But the high life soon started to slip away, and Hall has been desperately doing whatever he can since to hold on ever since. Hall's slide seems to know no bottom - from his deteriorating physical and mental condition, to his ongoing battle with alcohol and substance abuse that has crippled his family life and resulted in pathetic public appearances in school gyms. But he's hanging on, somehow. Now his only son, Cody, wants to follow in his father's tortured bootsteps. E:60 chronicles the heartbreaking story of a man who is a shadow of his former self and desperate for one last taste of the glory days.

Very interesting video. Must watch!

[MightyJordan]

http://espn.go.com/v...id=espn:7124904

Very interesting video. Must watch!

Wow... that was tough to watch. :( I really hope Scott Hall manages to get clean and overcome his demons. If he can, he's almost guaranteed a spot in the Hall of Fame.

OK, Vengeance...

I guess everyone here saw the big controversy at Vengeance...

Zack Ryder didn't win the US title! :angry:

As for the others, everything else was pretty predictable, except for the tag title match, as I had Swagger and Ziggler down to win that match (with Ryder to beat Ziggler afterwards, but that didn't happen). Oh yeah, and the World Heavyweight Championship match, too. I didn't think they'd recycle this bit...

...but then again, there is the seven year rule in WWE, and it's been over eight years since that happened. :p A bit more realistic this time around, as there was more combined weight between the two (over 900lbs between Show and Henry, compared to roughly 800lbs between Show and Lesnar).

The rest of the matches were meh. Sheamus beats Christian for the twentieth time, Beth Phoenix (rightly) defends the Divas title against Eve Torres, Randy Orton (as usual) beats Cody Rhodes, Awesome Truth beat CM Punk and HHH (with entirely predictable help from Kevin Nash), and Alberto Del Rio (rightly) defends the WWE Championship against John Cena in the Last Man Standing match (which started out in the collapsed ring, BTW), with a little help from Awesome Truth near the end, but ADR ended up getting the job done by himself. :)

[htcz]

Wow... that was tough to watch. :( I really hope Scott Hall manages to get clean and overcome his demons. If he can, he's almost guaranteed a spot in the Hall of Fame.

OK, Vengeance...

I guess everyone here saw the big controversy at Vengeance...

Zack Ryder didn't win the US title! :angry:

As for the others, everything else was pretty predictable, except for the tag title match, as I had Swagger and Ziggler down to win that match (with Ryder to beat Ziggler afterwards, but that didn't happen). Oh yeah, and the World Heavyweight Championship match, too. I didn't think they'd recycle this bit...

...but then again, there is the seven year rule in WWE, and it's been over eight years since that happened. :p A bit more realistic this time around, as there was more combined weight between the two (over 900lbs between Show and Henry, compared to roughly 800lbs between Show and Lesnar).

The rest of the matches were meh. Sheamus beats Christian for the twentieth time, Beth Phoenix (rightly) defends the Divas title against Eve Torres, Randy Orton (as usual) beats Cody Rhodes, Awesome Truth beat CM Punk and HHH (with entirely predictable help from Kevin Nash), and Alberto Del Rio (rightly) defends the WWE Championship against John Cena in the Last Man Standing match (which started out in the collapsed ring, BTW), with a little help from Awesome Truth near the end, but ADR ended up getting the job done by himself. :)

You could use the spoiler trags come on....

For the first time in MONTHS I thought the DIvas match was better than previous ones (not hard but nonetheless)

[Yorak]

...but then again, there is the seven year rule in WWE, and it's been over eight years since that happened. :p A bit more realistic this time around, as there was more combined weight between the two (over 900lbs between Show and Henry, compared to roughly 800lbs between Show and Lesnar).

Lmao, you know their ring weight is not their real weight, right? Well, until a few weeks ago when Vince changed it. Do you honestly think those guys are 450lbs. each? Nope.

[htcz]

http://espn.go.com/v...id=espn:7124904

Very interesting video. Must watch!

Scott for himself and his family needs to die. He is hurting himself inside and his family by doing this to himself. By his family problems in the past, its not a good idea that his son gets into the world either.

IDK to each his own but Scott does not look like Scott Hall at all. He needs to quit life. And not for himself...

Lmao, you know their ring weight is not their real weight, right? Well, until a few weeks ago when Vince changed it. Do you honestly think those guys are 450lbs. each? Nope.

http://i591.photobucket.com/albums/ss359/2BEntertainment/2009%20Arnold%20Sports%20Festival/Celebrities/IMG_0200.jpg

Take a comparision....

[Rappy Veteran]

[MightyJordan]

Happy 33rd birthday to Phil "CM Punk" Brooks! :)