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[Yorak]

LOL! I laughed so hard when that happened.

[htcz]

Triple H 6 weeks. Comes back at Survivor Series and hits Nash in the head with a slegehammer during his match with CM Punk.

[MightyJordan]

Just came across this poll on the WrestleMania site:

Which Superstar would you most like to see as World Champion when Daniel Bryan cashes in his Money in the Bank contract at WrestleMania XXVIII?

1. Mark Henry

2. Sheamus

3. Randy Orton

4. Sin Cara

Bit unusual having Sin Cara there, isn't it? Why not Christian, or the Big Show; someone who's actually in the title picture at the moment? Call me crazy, but maybe there might be a plan to have Sin Cara as the World Heavyweight Champion leading into WrestleMania. Then again, I'm probably just looking too much into it, like a mad person. :p

Speaking of PPV matches, Wrestling Observer Newsletter is reporting three as-yet-unnanounced matches signed off for Survivor Series (potential spoilers, so I'll use the tags):

Big Show vs. Mark Henry in a rematch for the World Heavyweight Championship.

Alberto Del Rio vs. CM Punk for the WWE Championship.

Sheamus/Randy Orton/Kane/Sin Cara Azul/Daniel Bryan vs. Christian/Cody Rhodes/Sin Cara Negro/Wade Barrett/Brodus Clay in a traditional Survivor Series elimination match.

And something else from WON, definitely a big spoiler:

"With Alberto Del Rio vs. CM Punk and Mark Henry vs. The Big Show in the works for Survivor Series – WWE is already looking to have rematches for both at the upcoming Tables, Ladders and Chairs pay-per-view. While things can change, CM Punk is currently scheduled to win the WWE Championship some time this fall – prior to the December 26th RAW supershow from his hometown of Chicago, Illinois."

[MightyJordan]

Maryse released

WWE has come to terms on the release of WWE Raw Diva Maryse as of today, October 28, 2011. WWE wishes Maryse the best in all of her future endeavors.

:(

[MightyJordan]

Episode 37 of Z! True Long Island Story (finally up after WWE blocked the first upload; are you serious, bro?!):

[MightyJordan]

Anyone here think they meet the requirements to become RAW GM?

Anyone think they're hinting as to who the next GM will be with that "job listing"? 10+ years experience, former WHC.

BTW, little dig at JoMo in there. :p

[episode]

Its a shame thats fake.

[MightyJordan]

Evan Bourne suspended

In accordance with its Talent Wellness Program, WWE has suspended Matthew Korklan (Evan Bourne) for 30 days effective immediately for his first violation of the company?s policy.

...well that's a shocker. :blink: Surprised they didn't book a tag title change though. They could have had Air Boom lose the titles (maybe to Swagger and Ziggler), then the new champions beatdown on Bourne, and the announcers could just say he's injured.

Its a shame thats fake.

I know, but it was posted on WWE's Facebook page, so might as well put it on here. :p

[episode]

o.O at the Evan Bourne suspension. Probably weed or something.

[MightyJordan]

o.O at the Evan Bourne suspension. Probably weed or something.

Funny you should say that...

Breaking update: Evan Bourne's WWE suspension

WWE announced Tuesday they have suspended performer Evan Bourne for 30 days effective immediately for his first violation of the company's Talent Wellness Program.

WWE issued a press release stating: "In accordance with its Talent Wellness Program, WWE has suspended Matthew Korklan (Evan Bourne) for 30 days effective immediately for his first violation of the company's policy."

Bourne's suspension was not unexpected since he was summoned to a meeting with WWE officials at Monday's RAW SuperShow in Atlanta, Georgia regarding a recent violation of their Substance Abuse and Drug Testing Policy (a component of the Talent Wellness Program), which according to corporate.wwe.com, "prohibits the use of drugs by talent for other than a legitimate medical purpose pursuant to a valid prescription from a licensed and treating physician."

WWE employees were surprised he and Kofi Kingston didn't lose the Tag Team Championship on RAW. The duo is now expected to drop the titles at tonight's SmackDown! in Greenville, North Carolina since his suspension has been publicly announced.

Many WWE performers believe the recent rash of suspensions is tied to Talent Wellness Program administers cracking down on usage of synthetic cannabis, which was added to the banned substances list in June. Sold under the brand names K2 and Spice, the substance was banned for at least a year effective March 1, 2011 by the Drug Enforcement Administration so they could study its effects more thoroughly and decide whether a permanent ban is necessary.

Bourne is the third WWE performer to be suspended in the past month, following Darren Young and Heath Slater.

Now on to better news; he's baaaaaaack......

Big update: Mick Foley makes his WWE return

WZ reader Stevie Howlin has sent in word that at tonight's WWE house show event in Dublin, Ireland, Mick Foley made his return to the company, and to the ring, as he refereed a match beteen The Miz and R-Truth vs. John Cena and John Morrison.

More details on Foley's WWE return; Mr. Socko, main event

The main event of tonight's WWE house show event in Dublin, Ireland was Alberto Del Rio defending the WWE title againt CM Punk. Punk got the DQ win.

Del Rio and Ricardo Rodriguez do a 2-on-1 beatdown of Punk, then The Miz and R-Truth run down to make it 4-on-1.

John Cena, John Morrison and Mick Foley run down to even the numbers.

Four faces do finishers to Miz, ending with Mr. Socko. Foley's music plays to end the wrestling.

Punk gets on the mic, puts over Ireland and claims he's part-Irish. Punk with an Irish flag and Cult of Personality playing ends the show.

BANG BANG!!!

[MightyJordan]

Well well well, SmackDown was actually fairly good this week!

(Spoilers)

Bit unusual starting off the show with a Cody Rhodes vs. Randy Orton street fight (once again, non-title), but a nice change for once.

The low point of the show is Natalya yet again jobbing to Alicia Fox. That's just bull***t right there.

The high point of the show has got to be Daniel Bryan (with the Big Show in his corner) in the main event against Mark Henry, then after Big Show gives Henry the DQ win, trying to knock Henry out and get Bryan to cash in his MITB briefcase. I genuinely thought he was gonna do it then! Good thing it didn't happen; save it for WrestleMania.

Seeing as Daniel Bryan's been brought into the Show/Henry storyline now, I'm suspecting one of them's gonna turn heel eventually. Either Big Show out of frustration from losing to Henry again and Bryan's reluctancy to cash in the MITB briefcase so soon; or Bryan out of frustration from Big Show constantly trying to get him to cash in the briefcase.

[MightyJordan]

Breaking News: Chyna in talks with WWE about a return?

Oh my goddess! Has hell frozen over?

The Ninth wonder of the World and former Intercontinental/Women's Champion Chyna has recently appeared on the Howard Stern Show and let the world know she attempted to talk business with Vince McMahon about a possible return to WWE.

Listen to this.

It doesn't reveal too much but the seeds may have been planted. I wonder what VKM thinks about all this.

Though it seems unlikely at this point given her Rated-X activities, a return to WWE could put all other Superstars and Divas on watch. Beware! She is coming.

I thought this interview was cute and sincere?she seemed to have a lot of fun with Howard and I laughed just as much along with them. It felt good to see her smiling and happy if you will.

As a fan of hers for years, I have to say this would be huge news for me. She may not be the same Chyna we knew and loved but her contributions to this sport are timeless.

Things happen for a reason and even though she fell from high above following her troubles with Triple H and Stephanie McMahon, we cannot deny her her place in this business.

She is the first woman to ever hold the Intercontinental Championship, after all, and I strongly feel she deserves an eventual place amongst the greats in the Hall of Fame.

I'm so in love with the idea of Chyna taking on Beth Phoenix or Kharma and still hope it can happen in some way in the future. Whether in WWE 12, 13 or in live action?doesn't matter! Her place is in the ring, not in bed with heat-seeking men and their rockets!

All I can add is this, if Bret Hart can come back, so can Chyna.

What do we reckon here, yay or nay? Would definitely be a much-needed turnup for the Divas division...

[MightyJordan]

Bad news for any Peeps here; Christian is out of Survivor Series due to injury:

WWE.com has learned from WWE medical personnel that Christian suffered a severe high ankle sprain while competing on WWE's recent overseas tour throughout Europe. The severity of the sprain has made it impossible for him to compete as a member of Team Barrett against Team Orton at Survivor Series this Sunday. (MATCH PREVIEW)

Christian's ankle injury is further compounded by what transpired a week prior on SmackDown, during which Christian claimed to have suffered a neck injury as the result of a chokeslam at the massive hands of Big Show.

At this point in time, no replacement has been named, nor has it been determined whether or not Team Captain Wade Barrett will be leading a four-man team into Survivor Series this Sunday.

Here's the video of when it happened...

Ouch. :pinch:

[MightyJordan]

Guys, the inevitable happened again: Matt Hardy arrested after being kicked out of rehab

TMZ.com is now reporting that Matt Hardy has been arrested due to his violation of a court order. Upon his return to Moore County, NC, Matt Hardy was arrested for previously violating the court order, which mandated that he complete the WWE sponsorded rehab program or be held on a $1 million bail. To read more, click on the above link.

His chances of coming back to WWE are officially over. Who wants to bet we'll see him on TNA or ROH in a few months time?

[timster]

meh, Matt Hardy has proved again that he's a loser.

TNA loves drugs and alcohol .. hell, how many chances have Jeff Hardy and Kurt Angle gotten?

[MightyJordan]

Well, it's been all go again, and Survivor Series proved that, like it or not, Zack Ryder is officially one of the biggest stars in WWE right now. He got the biggest pop of the night, and he wasn't even wrestling. The fans were even chanting "We want Ryder!" during the main event, and even during The Rock's post-PPV speech! :D

I won't post the Survivor Series results or the results from this week's RAW; I'll leave that for everyone to look up themselves, but I'll focus on four things for now...

1. Sin Cara picked up a major injury thanks to this botch...

He's ruptured his patella tendon, and will be out of action for 6-9 months.

2. WWE has started to tease the return of (a possibly masked) Kane...

Please come back masked! :D

3. WWE has also started to tease the return of another superstar...

The difference this time is this return has a date (January 2nd, 2012, so on Monday Night RAW), and it wasn't actually played on this week's RAW, they flashed a link to the YouTube channel that this video is on ("itbegins2012") a couple of times during the show. Here is what is said in the video: "Come my people and shut thy doors about thee. For a power shall come to punish the meek for their inequity. For on the 2nd day of 2012, a familiar force shall arrive to claim what is his. And it will be the end of the world as you know it."

Now the obvious one here is The Undertaker, as they're bound to bring him back sometime around the Royal Rumble and hype everything up for his final WrestleMania match to level out the streak at 20-0.

The next suggestion that most people are touting is Chris Jericho, which does have a bit of logic behind it. I saw this comment, analysing the video: "Globe in background = 'Best in the world at what he does', Taking back what is mine = Jericho wants to take his gimmick? back, 2012 = Year = Y, 2nd = 2, January = J, Plus coming back in 2012 mirrors when he came in 2000. 2012 = End of the world, 2000 = Y2K Incident end of the world thing"

And the final suggestion I've seen is Batista. And this one has as much good logic behind it as the Jericho one does: "This scripture the boy is reading is from Isaiah 26:20 through the end of the chapter. In chapter 27, the "force" that God's sends is named Leviathan. That was Batista's name in OVW. Also, it would be the "end of the world as we knew it." That was the recurring theme for the PPV? Armageddon in which Batista debuted."

So out of those three, I'd personally pip for Jericho, with Batista a very close second. Although knowing WWE, they'll probably punish us for overanalysing and it's just The Undertaker.

And finally, a bit of a shocker that came out only a few hours ago...

4. R-Truth suspended for wellness policy violation

Two days removed from headlining Madison Square Garden at WWE Survivor Series 2011 against The Rock and John Cena, R-Truth has been dealt a 30-day suspension from the WWE.

Via WWE.com:

In accordance with the Talent Wellness Program, WWE (NYSE:WWE) has suspended Ron Killings (R-Truth) for 30 days effective immediately for his first violation of the company?s policy.

Dave Meltzer noted in the Wrestling Observer Newsletter that when Evan Bourne was dealt his 30-day suspension for smoking synthetic marijuana, there was another WWE Superstar who failed with him, but due to being higher up on the card, his suspension had to be postponed. R-Truth's suspension should clear that mystery up.

This comes at a terrible time for R-Truth, as he was in a great team with The Miz, and were likely on their way to tag team gold (or, bronze?). He's an excellent comedy heel with decent in-ring skills, and as I mentioned, just came off of headlining MSG in one of the biggest shows of the year.

The "Little Jimmies" might be getting the last laugh here, but I can't help but feel bad for a star who has so much momentum, only to fail a test for something like synthetic marijuana. Since this is R-Truth's first violation, maybe he'll return and be right where he left off. Keep an eye on Evan Bourne and what happens when he returns, as it should give us a good idea of what to expect when R-Truth's 30 days are up.

Definitely a shocker, but this explains why WWE decided to break up Awesome Truth then. I thought they were just being stupid and copying one of TNA's storylines (breaking up one of their best tag teams when their division is already lacking in talent as it is).

[htcz]

I havent seen RAW yet so Ive skipped thru all the comments in the thread :p Incase I repost something:

Dolph Ziggler John Morrison : Could have been intresting but overshoweded by the chants. I think the Ryder attack wasnt planned but the WWE just saw so many people yelling his name, they had to give the crowd what they wanted.

Beth Phoenix Eve: Generally same old, same old. The lumberjill seemed to try to make a divas match more intresting but the glam slam from the top rope made the match have its moment.

The Rock promo: This wasnt a match or anything but the best moment of the night and just shows that the Rock still can deliver one hell of a promo. The best of the night.

Traditional Survivor Series Elimination Tag Team: Nothing really special about it. Not sure if Sin Cara's injury was fake or not because botching a move is dangerous to do it on purpose but seeing how this guy enters the ring every match, he problably botched it correctly and it was just a setup.

Big Show Mark Henry: We actually saw "some" wrestling from the Big Show in this match. Arm drag takedown? WTF? Was entertaining but TLC between these two is going to be "huge" (pun intented). I hope it isnt a stupid chairs match.

CM Punk Alberto Del Rio: Second "best" (I use best loosely) moment of the night and best match. On TV, Punk talked too much to Rio to tell him the moves that were going to happen when he was whipped into the ropes which kinda messed it up. But good match over all.

John Cena The Rock Awesome Truth (The Miz and R-Truth): Again nothing special about this one: You can resume it by saying Cena gets his ass kicked and the Rock makes comeback and wins it. I do have to point out that The Rock actually looked "natural": He didnt look out of shape, physically nor in wrestling style. He was limited ring time as problably in case he botched something as he wasnt 100% in shape but the minutes we saw him, pretty good.

On that note, I wish John Cena has a serious (and real) injury and they make it Triple H vs The Rock. These two need a match for Wrestlemania for their ego, so to speak. The thing with John Cena is that nothing works: He sucks up: Nothing. Foley helps: Nothing. Speeches he does: Nothing. It doesnt work for the fans. What he needs to do is what every big star was once done in their carrer: Go heel. The Rock, Triple H, (even) Austin, Big Show, HBK, etc etc. Every single one of them in one point has gone on a major heel turn. Its a perfect time now, now that they are hyping the Rock vs Cena match (if they still go thru with it).

[MightyJordan]

I havent seen RAW yet so Ive skipped thru all the comments in the thread :p Incase I repost something:

OK, I'll make sure to not say anything that happened on this week's RAW in this post. ;)

Dolph Ziggler John Morrison : Could have been intresting but overshoweded by the chants. I think the Ryder attack wasnt planned but the WWE just saw so many people yelling his name, they had to give the crowd what they wanted.

I think the Zack Ryder run-in was planned. Over the weekend on Twitter, Ryder kept posting a #ManhattanScrewjob hashtag, and also did #RyderOrRiot at one point, he was almost certainly building it up.

Beth Phoenix Eve: Generally same old, same old. The lumberjill seemed to try to make a divas match more intresting but the glam slam from the top rope made the match have its moment.

Yeah, mostly a boring match; Lumberjack/jill matches always are. Its only saving grace being the finish. Oh, and the fact that Beth Phoenix rightly retained. :)

Traditional Survivor Series Elimination Tag Team: Nothing really special about it. Not sure if Sin Cara's injury was fake or not because botching a move is dangerous to do it on purpose but seeing how this guy enters the ring every match, he problably botched it correctly and it was just a setup.

Sin Cara's injury unfortunately is real. He's ruptured his patella tendon, so he needs surgery, and then he'll be out for 6-9 months of rehabilitation.

Big Show Mark Henry: We actually saw "some" wrestling from the Big Show in this match. Arm drag takedown? WTF? Was entertaining but TLC between these two is going to be "huge" (pun intented). I hope it isnt a stupid chairs match.

Even though the Big Show was slower than Kevin Nash in setting up for that top-rope elbow drop, that was a huge moment. Pun intended. :p

CM Punk Alberto Del Rio: Second "best" (I use best loosely) moment of the night and best match. On TV, Punk talked too much to Rio to tell him the moves that were going to happen when he was whipped into the ropes which kinda messed it up. But good match over all.

I had this thought in the back of my head that Del Rio was gonna retain the title, but when Justin Roberts announced Howard Finkel as CM Punk's personal ring announcer, that thought was immediately eradicated. :woot: I think that has to be my favourite moment of the night. I really missed The Fink.

[Calum Veteran]

[. . .]

The difference this time is this return has a date (January 2nd, 2012, so on Monday Night RAW), and it wasn't actually played on this week's RAW, they flashed a link to the YouTube channel that this video is on ("itbegins2012") a couple of times during the show. Here is what is said in the video: "Come my people and shut thy doors about thee. For a power shall come to punish the meek for their inequity. For on the 2nd day of 2012, a familiar force shall arrive to claim what is his. And it will be the end of the world as you know it."

Now the obvious one here is The Undertaker, as they're bound to bring him back sometime around the Royal Rumble and hype everything up for his final WrestleMania match to level out the streak at 20-0.

The next suggestion that most people are touting is Chris Jericho, which does have a bit of logic behind it. I saw this comment, analysing the video: "Globe in background = 'Best in the world at what he does', Taking back what is mine = Jericho wants to take his gimmick? back, 2012 = Year = Y, 2nd = 2, January = J, Plus coming back in 2012 mirrors when he came in 2000. 2012 = End of the world, 2000 = Y2K Incident end of the world thing"

And the final suggestion I've seen is Batista. And this one has as much good logic behind it as the Jericho one does: "This scripture the boy is reading is from Isaiah 26:20 through the end of the chapter. In chapter 27, the "force" that God's sends is named Leviathan. That was Batista's name in OVW. Also, it would be the "end of the world as we knew it." That was the recurring theme for the PPV? Armageddon in which Batista debuted."

[. . .]

Some people have gone for the following code to suggest it may be Chris Jericho: Y (YouTube), 2 (2nd), J (January). YouTube may well be more involved with this storyline considering all WWE did during Raw was flash up the link :)

In regard to the Batista idea, the age added to the itbegins2012 channel is set at 43. Neither Chris Jericho nor The Undertaker will be 43 in 2012, but Batista turns 43 on January 18. That's an interesting development because that added age could be a clue, but I don't believe it's related to Batista because he won't quite be 43 by the time this character is apparently returning.

[+Nik Louch Subscriber²]

These two need a match for Wrestlemania for their ego

What the hell are you on about?

What he needs to do is what every big star was once done in their carrer: Go heel

Again, what the ****?

Are you like 10? Have you just started watching WWE in the last 2 years?

Cena has been an awesome heel before!

[htcz]

OK, I'll make sure to not say anything that happened on this week's RAW in this post. ;)

Thanks :) Saw RAW now but thanks

I think the Zack Ryder run-in was planned. Over the weekend on Twitter, Ryder kept posting a #ManhattanScrewjob hashtag, and also did #RyderOrRiot at one point, he was almost certainly building it up.

I dont use or follow Twitter, more so on WWE. They abuse it with al the promotion they give it.

Yeah, mostly a boring match; Lumberjack/jill matches always are. Its only saving grace being the finish. Oh, and the fact that Beth Phoenix rightly retained. :)

I thought the story was going to be basically Karma coming back and pretty much destroy Beth. But Chyna was rumored (as stated above) to return so....

On another story, its too bad Natalya doesnt wrestle more. She is a Hart and anything that comes out of there has some wrestling skills. I think the rest just suck so much :p she cant stoop dont to that level :p

Sin Cara's injury unfortunately is real. He's ruptured his patella tendon, so he needs surgery, and then he'll be out for 6-9 months of rehabilitation.

Strange that highfligher botch moves like that, not only that but botching a spot like that is very dangerous. First, a violation of the Wellness policy and now this. Hunico should go back to being Sin Cara as this stupid gimmick they have given him is just lame.

Even though the Big Show was slower than Kevin Nash in setting up for that top-rope elbow drop, that was a huge moment. Pun intended. :p

I dont know if he was hyping it up or if he was about to **** himself.

I had this thought in the back of my head that Del Rio was gonna retain the title, but when Justin Roberts announced Howard Finkel as CM Punk's personal ring announcer, that thought was immediately eradicated. :woot: I think that has to be my favourite moment of the night. I really missed The Fink.

Didnt really matter if he was or wasnt going to retain. We will see ANOTHER match a TLC. Next week on RAW, Punk loses, he gets his little rematch clause at TLC in a TLC match, etc etc. The cycle continues.

[MightyJordan]

I thought the story was going to be basically Karma coming back and pretty much destroy Beth. But Chyna was rumored (as stated above) to return so....

No chance of that; Kharma is currently 6 months pregnant. She won't be back until next May. And before she left anyway, they pretty much set up a rivalry between her and the Bella Twins.

Oh yeah, and the Chyna rumour was eradicated a while ago, as last week, she then announced that she wanted to return to TNA. Clearly WWE saw some sense for once and said no to her. She was great in her heyday, but I wouldn't want her in there now, even with the Divas division in its current state.

Oh BTW, new Botchamania! (I should remember to post each one when they come out; it's been ages since I last posted one on here :p )

[htcz]

What the hell are you on about? Again, what the ****? Are you like 10? Have you just started watching WWE in the last 2 years? Cena has been an awesome heel before!

I dont watch every single WWE weekly show or even PPV. And chill, its fake remember :/

AFAIK, Cena hasnt been sold as a real heel since a long time ago, and at most a couple of times. I never said he wasnt or was a great heel, Im just saying that he should go heel now.

On another note, come on, did they really have to censor the F when The Rock said WWF tag team titles? Thats what they were back in the day and period.

[MightyJordan]

AFAIK, Cena hasnt been sold as a real heel since a long time ago, and at most a couple of times. I never said he wasnt or was a great heel, Im just saying that he should go heel now.

From a business standpoint, I disagree. And that's how WWE is taking things. Turning Cena heel would essentially please the IWC, and a lot of adult fans, but it's not really gonna make them money. Sure, it may increase their viewing figures a tiny bit, but that wouldn't replace the lost money. Cena's merchandise is on the slide a bit though. CM Punk is now #1 in terms of merch sales, and Zack Ryder's hot on his heels too, having broke into the top 10 last month. If Punk and Ryder end up being #1 and #2 (in either order), then who know? Maybe they might try the heel turn...

On another note, come on, did they really have to censor the F when The Rock said WWF tag team titles? Thats what they were back in the day and period.

Sadly, yes, they did have to censor the "F" in "WWF", because of those arses at the World Wildlife Fund for Nature (who call themselves "WWF", even though it should be "WWFN"). They allow them to say "World Wrestling Federation in old videos now, but still don't allow any "WWF" mentions.

They also don't have to censor the old WWF logos, but only pre-Attitude Era, so this: is allowed, and this: is also allowed, but this: is not allowed and must be blurred out in all videos.

[+Nik Louch Subscriber²]

So... You are about 10 then?