User6060 Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 So while searching the nets I found this company Psystar and they are selling Hackintosh OSx86 computers in violation of Apples EULA aka it is illegal to install leopard on non-Apple hardware. Apparently the retail copy installs because they are using EFI emulation to get around it or something. OpenMac: The Smart Alternative to an AppleThe Psystar OpenMac works just like an Apple Macintosh. Why spend $1999 to get the least expensive Apple computer with a decent video card when you can pay less than a fourth of that for an equivalent sleek and small form-factor desktop with the same hardware. Sometimes reinventing the wheel is a good thing. The OpenMac can work for new Mac users and Mac geniuses, alike. $399 apparently Price per Unit (piece): $399.99The highly extensible OpenMac is a configuration of PC hardware capable of running unmodified OS X Leopard kernels. If you purchase Leopard with your OpenMac we will not only include the actual Leopard retail package with genuine installation disc, but we also include a Psystar restore disc for your OpenMac and we will preinstall Leopard for free so you can begin to use your computer right out of the box. Base Configuration * 2.2GHz Intel Core 2 Duo E4500 Processor * 2GB of DDR2 667 memory * Integrated Intel GMA 950 Graphics * 20x DVD+/-R SATA drive that is Lightscribe-capable * 4 rear USB Ports OpenMac Product Page Company site. Real/Fake?? How long before the long legal arm of Steve Jobs puts an end to this? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/631344-psystar-selling-hackintosh-pcs-called-openmac/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
PsychoDoughBoy Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 Real/Fake??How long before the long legal arm of Steve Jobs puts an end to this? I'm sure it's real. I am also sure that Apple are going to put a stop to this pretty quick smart. Whether Psystar gets buried by a lawsuit (Apple doesn't need to win - just send Psystar broke from lawyers fees), or Apple "fix" Leopard so that it doesn't start on an OpenMac, I can't see it lasting very long. I'd also be interested to know if using "Mac" would count as a trademark violation. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/631344-psystar-selling-hackintosh-pcs-called-openmac/#findComment-589332712 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ralph_tran Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 (edited) wow... steve isn't gonna be happy about this. osx86 is lame... it is hard to get running perfectly and is even harder to update...not that i would know :whistle: This pretty much has scam written all over it, except the scam artist is an idiot and he's about to be in bucketloads of trouble with apple. Edited April 14, 2008 by ralph_tran Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/631344-psystar-selling-hackintosh-pcs-called-openmac/#findComment-589332713 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yusuf M. Veteran Posted April 14, 2008 Veteran Share Posted April 14, 2008 Apple lawyers will be all over this like ants to a drop of honey. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/631344-psystar-selling-hackintosh-pcs-called-openmac/#findComment-589332720 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aleck79 Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 no, its fake... from their web site Toll Free 888.456.7801 Phone 305.356.6666 Fax 305.357.5555 E-mail [email protected] e-mail address is being protected from spambots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it PsyStar Corporation 10645 SW 112 ST Miami, FL 33176 now go look up the address on google maps... its run out of someone's home... not a corporation. its fake. I even checked the address the whois information is registered under... out of someone's house http://maps.live.com/?q=&mkt=en-us&...zguMTY0MDYyNQ== I highly doubt this is real, please take with a large grain of salt. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/631344-psystar-selling-hackintosh-pcs-called-openmac/#findComment-589332730 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni_78 Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 Niiice. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/631344-psystar-selling-hackintosh-pcs-called-openmac/#findComment-589332733 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Decryptor Veteran Posted April 14, 2008 Veteran Share Posted April 14, 2008 Ohh yeah, going to get sued quickly. ...now go look up the address on google maps... its run out of someone's home... not a corporation. its fake. I even checked the address the whois information is registered under... out of someone's house http://maps.live.com/?q=&mkt=en-us&...zguMTY0MDYyNQ== I highly doubt this is real, please take with a large grain of salt. You can run companies out of your house. I bought my old ADSL modem from a computer "store" that was in the guys garage. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/631344-psystar-selling-hackintosh-pcs-called-openmac/#findComment-589332741 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern Patriot Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 Also, if you notice, if you select Leopard pre-installed (from the configuration drop-down box), it is an additional $155, not free as in the description. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/631344-psystar-selling-hackintosh-pcs-called-openmac/#findComment-589332745 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aleck79 Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 dunno about you but i wouldn't buy anything so expensive from a "corporation" run out of someone house. with a modem you still have the manufacturer's warranty... no so here. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/631344-psystar-selling-hackintosh-pcs-called-openmac/#findComment-589332748 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEVER85 Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 no, its fake... from their web siteToll Free 888.456.7801 Phone 305.356.6666 Fax 305.357.5555 E-mail [email protected] e-mail address is being protected from spambots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it PsyStar Corporation 10645 SW 112 ST Miami, FL 33176 now go look up the address on google maps... its run out of someone's home... not a corporation. its fake. I even checked the address the whois information is registered under... out of someone's house http://maps.live.com/?q=&mkt=en-us&...zguMTY0MDYyNQ== I highly doubt this is real, please take with a large grain of salt. MS Virtual Earth >>>> Google Earth. But yeah, this is obviously a scam. Psystar even sounds like a phony internet handle. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/631344-psystar-selling-hackintosh-pcs-called-openmac/#findComment-589332750 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Decryptor Veteran Posted April 14, 2008 Veteran Share Posted April 14, 2008 Everything has to start somewhere, Apple themselves were run out of a garage. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/631344-psystar-selling-hackintosh-pcs-called-openmac/#findComment-589332751 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aleck79 Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 important difference... apple's first hardware wasn't legally questionable. ;) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/631344-psystar-selling-hackintosh-pcs-called-openmac/#findComment-589332759 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drakesh Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 In the FAQ section, it specifically mentions that the customer will have to be selective about what updates they install, otherwise they may have to reinstall their OS. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/631344-psystar-selling-hackintosh-pcs-called-openmac/#findComment-589332764 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daft Punk Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 I like the case Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/631344-psystar-selling-hackintosh-pcs-called-openmac/#findComment-589332772 Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazzyyfool Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 They're charging $155 just to install Leopard for you. :wacko: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/631344-psystar-selling-hackintosh-pcs-called-openmac/#findComment-589332934 Share on other sites More sharing options...
osirisX Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 Steve: "Release the hounds!" Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/631344-psystar-selling-hackintosh-pcs-called-openmac/#findComment-589332975 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denis W. Veteran Posted April 14, 2008 Veteran Share Posted April 14, 2008 Psystar: Reinventing The Wheel for the past seven years. This sounds like CherryOS version 2. Except it would never have happened were it not for Apple going Intel. EDIT: Laughing. My. ****ing. Ass. Off. Notice how all their other 'products' - actually, PRODUCT - are $1999.99? And clicking individual categories in the store leads to the same damn $1999 Psyvoice PBX product over and over...? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/631344-psystar-selling-hackintosh-pcs-called-openmac/#findComment-589332998 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kudos Veteran Posted April 14, 2008 Veteran Share Posted April 14, 2008 If the guy hadn't stuck "Mac" in the name and offered to pre-install OS X, he'd have a fighting chance. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/631344-psystar-selling-hackintosh-pcs-called-openmac/#findComment-589333019 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Fahim S. MVC Posted April 14, 2008 MVC Share Posted April 14, 2008 A company called Psystar has started advertising a $399 computer called "OpenMac" which claims to be a Leopard compatible Mac built from standard PC-parts. For $399, you get a tower computer with the following specs:- 2.2GHz Intel Core 2 Duo - 2GB of DDR2 667 memory - Integrated Intel GMA 950 Graphics - 20x DVD+/-R Drive - 4 USB Ports - 250GB 7200RPM Drive Many of the components can be upgraded, however. For example, the graphics card can be updated to a GeForce 8600GT 512MB for $155 more. Psystar is marketing this as a cheaper and more expandable alternative to a true Apple Mac. When comparing base configurations, the Mac Mini costs 150% of the price of the OpenMac while offering poorer performance, smaller storage space, and RAM. Not only that but the Mac Mini doesn't have the option for an nVidia GeForce 8600 video card like the OpenMac does so playing games on it is a lost cause. The company claims that the machine is Leopard compatible with some "minimal patching" but does offer Leopard pre-installed. This is reportedly accomplished by using parts that are known to be compatible with Mac OS X Leopard, as well as the use of an EFI emulator. With the EFI V8 emulator it is possible to install Leopard's kernel straight from the DVD that you purchased at the Apple store barring the addition of a few drivers to ensure that everything boots and runs smoothly. Readers should note that these claims have not been independently verified, so this should not seen as an endorsement of this product. However, the technology appears to be derived from the osx86project, which has allowed hobbyists to install Mac OS X on their non-Apple PCs. The concept is an interesting possibility, and will certainly draw the attention of Apple. The use of Leopard on non Apple-branded hardware is a violation of its End User License Agreement (EULA) and is specifically prohibited. Source @ MacRumours Anyone else smell a lawsuit coming? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/631344-psystar-selling-hackintosh-pcs-called-openmac/#findComment-589333040 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTD Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 Steve and Co. will make them fold faster than Superman on laundry day. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/631344-psystar-selling-hackintosh-pcs-called-openmac/#findComment-589333082 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pink Floyd Veteran Posted April 14, 2008 Veteran Share Posted April 14, 2008 that won't end long imo, apple is going to end it soon! hey nice avatar btw ;) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/631344-psystar-selling-hackintosh-pcs-called-openmac/#findComment-589333085 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTD Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 Anyone else hear that flushing sound? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/631344-psystar-selling-hackintosh-pcs-called-openmac/#findComment-589333088 Share on other sites More sharing options...
John S. Veteran Posted April 14, 2008 Veteran Share Posted April 14, 2008 threads merged Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/631344-psystar-selling-hackintosh-pcs-called-openmac/#findComment-589333089 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Laughing Man Posted April 14, 2008 Share Posted April 14, 2008 Sites down apparently. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/631344-psystar-selling-hackintosh-pcs-called-openmac/#findComment-589333101 Share on other sites More sharing options...
John S. Veteran Posted April 14, 2008 Veteran Share Posted April 14, 2008 Sites down apparently. :laugh: Well that didn't last long Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/631344-psystar-selling-hackintosh-pcs-called-openmac/#findComment-589333237 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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