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Jesus, I was embarrassed just looking at that woman using her hand to zoom in and move those pictures. What a b*llsh*t.

I can do everything she did with my mouse, only faster and more precise.

I won't have to touch my monitor with my fingers and my eyes won't bleed to death because I sit too close to the screen.

Microsoft is really f*cking things up nowadays.

i'm going to guess your a vista hater

gotta love the use of Dell XTs which nobody could afford.

But it's available today!!! Imagine that, a PC available now that can run a future OS...Sounds like the same "Vista Capable" bull****.

I read many of you saying this is useless for your desktop and w/e, but you're really missing the point here. Windows7, and this technology itself isn't going to be limited to just the desktop we all know and use today. You guys have to keep an open mind and try to think ahead for once.

This works great for tabletPCs, and any Surface type devices be it tables or in the future whole walls etc. Hell even in Windows terminal/thin client kiosk type setups this comes into play.

Thankfully there are still some forward thinkers still left with their own open-minds, although in the minority.

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The ones also complaining about multi-touch also gotta realize that this opens doors to many businesses that want applications easy to use for the customers. There is all sorts of uses for multi-touch -- stores, casinos, etc... Anything where users can give feedback or process things using multi-touch is a lot easier than sitting down and having to type on a keyboard and use a mouse. This way they can stand up and just press some buttons. Making the tech available to the public only helps further develop the uses for the technology.

lol she's not supposed to talk about the taskbar ROFL :laugh:

:laugh: That was an awkward moment.

The Taskbar looks bad ATM anyway. I really hope to see Microsoft doing something cool with it.

i'm going to guess your a vista hater

He may have a point. I'm darn sure I can work a lot faster with my mouse and keyboard than with my fingers on a touch screen.

Eww :x and imagine trying to use the PC for playing a game after you just dragged and resized some pictures on screen - the smudges and fingerprints. (N)

It's a neat technology. And I like Vista. But I would never put greasy fingers on a screen, no matter how ingenious the idea seems. :D

He may have a point. I'm darn sure I can work a lot faster with my mouse and keyboard than with my fingers on a touch screen.

Eww :x and imagine trying to use the PC for playing a game after you just dragged and resized some pictures on screen - the smudges and fingerprints. (N)

Never used an iPhone I take it?

Never used an iPhone I take it?

You know what. ;) I did. My neighbor got one from the US - then had it hacked so it worked on the local Optus network.

On a phone, it's OK. But Windows? Whaa.. Really? No. I can't even begin to imagine how easily I would mess up my pc with a touchscreen.

Also, with a touchscreen there, when Windows did lock up - I would be so tempted to 'submit' my feedback to Microsoft :laugh:

On a phone, it's OK. But Windows? Whaa.. Really? No. I can't even begin to imagine how easily I would mess up my pc with a touchscreen.

It's not really best for desktop PCs though... Certainly not to replace a keyboard or mouse.

I mean, they added multi-touch to the Mac OS for the iPhone, right?

Microsoft has Surface already, along with tablets like the XT. It's clearly a technology that's targetted at form factors where a keyboard and mouse make less sense. Or for new interface paradigms like simultaneous input from multiple users.

I surely wouldn't call it a terribly important aspect of Win7 though, at least not for desktop or traditional laptop users like me. Believe me there's plenty else to love.

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It's not for desktop PCs though...

Oh right. Didn't get it that Surface wasn't for desktops. If it's only for laptops or tablet PC's, then why did Microsoft choose this technology to showcase when most of the customers won't have a need for it.

I surely wouldn't call it a terribly important aspect of Win7 though, at least not for desktop or traditional laptop users like me. Believe me there's plenty else to love.

;) I believe you, but how much longer will we need to wait to find out those new and exciting features?

Oh right. Didn't get it that Surface wasn't for desktops. If it's only for laptops or tablet PC's, then why did Microsoft choose this technology to showcase when most of the customers won't have a need for it.

Because it's a cool new technology, and it's still not quite time to talk much about 7.

Perhaps Microsoft shouldn't have chosen to call this a Windows 7 feature preview. A lot of people got their hopes up. I know I did. sad.gif

Microsoft didn't. Some bloggers and D6 people did. We didn't say anything at all about it as far as I'm aware.

why does that extremly annoying lady in the video keep compairing everything to the iphone? she reminds me of some of the people on here who are dedicated apple freaks.

Haha yeah I bet Bill & Steve were like... Uh shutup you stupid b*tch... LOL.

Anyway, touch computing is the next logical step in HCI and is the most natural... Put a kid in front of a computer who has never used a keyboard, mouse, or touch screen, and I bet they figure out how to use the screen quicker than they would a mouse. Anyway, will be interesting to see what happens down the road... Maybe in 10-20 years people will laugh that we used a mouse. :)

The problem I noticed was the laptop-hinge has a bit of 'give'. It's be really annoying to realign the screen of the laptop every time I did something on it, because of the pressure moving it backwards...

I still like surface tbh. Great layout. Toucscreens are good for specialist workstations or the Surface Table, where it's a useful bit of furniture and an RTS dream.

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The ones also complaining about multi-touch also gotta realize that this opens doors to many businesses that want applications easy to use for the customers. There is all sorts of uses for multi-touch -- stores, casinos, etc... Anything where users can give feedback or process things using multi-touch is a lot easier than sitting down and having to type on a keyboard and use a mouse. This way they can stand up and just press some buttons. Making the tech available to the public only helps further develop the uses for the technology.

I can think of several *current* uses for the technology - ATMs, self-service checkout, kiosks, casinos (from cash/comp kiosks, which are basically modified ATMs to slot machines). I'm not even talking about stuff sitting in labs, but stuff currently is use today.

ATMs have been touch-screen (either partially or completely) for nearly a decade (and that was without Windows; early touch-screen ATMs used a modified version of IBM OS/2). Self-service checkouts in grocery stores are, likewise, current technology. (I have two different grocery stores with the option of self-service checkout within a half-mile of my house, and *neither* is a 7-Eleven.) Touch-screen slot machines? IGT alone (http://www.igt.com) has been deploying them for four years. (IGT even has touch-screen *mechanical reel* slot machines; the S2000 series.)

Not rocket science. Not even going beyond what's already out in the world today. It doesn't even require new hardware.

Oh right. Didn't get it that Surface wasn't for desktops. If it's only for laptops or tablet PC's, then why did Microsoft choose this technology to showcase when most of the customers won't have a need for it.

;) I believe you, but how much longer will we need to wait to find out those new and exciting features?

It's not that Surface isn't for desktops (any feature deployable in a laptop or tablet PC can certainly be deployable in a desktop formfactor); it's just that the desktop is the most *traditional* of deployment factors and has the most *traditional* (read: hidebound/reactionary) of user community when it comes to new peripherals.

Is it just me, or do the keyboard and touch pad on a laptop seem like a waste of space? I'm using my keyboard now, but when I switch to WMP, I don't; I have this huge space (the size of my screen) doing nothing when I'm using it, along with other applications that don't really require much keyboard attention, and applications like Word that hardly require the touch pad.

Why not make that space a massive multi-touch screen, similar to the Nintendo DS? Imagine having all that space dedicated to multimedia playback; being able to drag the seek bar around or arrange your play lists.

I may draw a picture to demonstrate.

^ im pretty sure the dual-screen idea is patented by Nintendo. Its what sepereates them. If everyone was able to come out with this, then the DS would have no value.

how bout a tablet, but the keyboard slides out and folds? LIke the ATT Tilt. slid from underneath, then fold to a 90 degree angle.

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