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Source games don't handle tabbing well at all, it can cause strange glitches like that (in my case every member on my team had the ubercharge texture and was stuck in the reference pose, everybody on the other team was invisible)

Never had it when changing teams though.

Left 4 Dead's version of Source being an exception however.

At least it is for me.

Left 4 Dead's version of Source being an exception however.

At least it is for me.

Yep, Left 4 Dead doesn't glitch out when I minimize/maximize the game.

Anyway, what's the ETA on the Scout update?

Speaking about tabbing glitches:

THE most annoying bug for Source games, especially TF2, is this. (This happens in Vista/7, probably not in XP. Also the game has to be set as fullscreen.) Start the game from Steam and quickly shift focus to another application or the desktop. After the initial Valve intro plays, try switching focus back to the game's window. You'll get stuck in an infinite loop of going from the game's window to the desktop and back.

I had that really consistently, even without switching applications (i.e. I select TF2 in steam, hit enter and don't touch anything, then it'd start jumping between TF2 and the desktop)

I fixed it by adding "-novid" to the command line.

Thanks for that. I had that issue for months!

I had that really consistently, even without switching applications (i.e. I select TF2 in steam, hit enter and don't touch anything, then it'd start jumping between TF2 and the desktop)

I fixed it by adding "-novid" to the command line.

I sometimes get that annoying issue. Thanks for the quick fix!

Speaking about tabbing glitches:

THE most annoying bug for Source games, especially TF2, is this. (This happens in Vista/7, probably not in XP. Also the game has to be set as fullscreen.) Start the game from Steam and quickly shift focus to another application or the desktop. After the initial Valve intro plays, try switching focus back to the game's window. You'll get stuck in an infinite loop of going from the game's window to the desktop and back.

I've never seen that myself. And i've had the game start out of focus and behind other apps quite a bit. Perhaps it is a vista/7 thing, as i run XP. i dunno.

An annoying problem i have, though, is in the opposite direction, with exiting the game. Quite often hl2.exe and the exe for the gameoverlay thing don't fully get rid of themselves and i have to kill the processes manually for when i want to exit steam so i can run non-steam games without the performance loss leaving steam on brings.

Edited by Blackhearted
Speaking about tabbing glitches:

THE most annoying bug for Source games, especially TF2, is this. (This happens in Vista/7, probably not in XP. Also the game has to be set as fullscreen.) Start the game from Steam and quickly shift focus to another application or the desktop. After the initial Valve intro plays, try switching focus back to the game's window. You'll get stuck in an infinite loop of going from the game's window to the desktop and back.

if it's what i think it is, i get it in XP. A quick ctrl-alt-del and then clicking cancel, then changing focus to TF2 fixes it.

If you run a dual screen set up, set Left 4 Dead to run in Windowed mode (no border), and you can alt tab quite easily.

When doing something on the other monitor though the game drops to half fps and you have to press esc so you have the mouse back.

Yeah, hope that gets fixed soon. I hate asshats who exploit and cheat... they just drive people to stop having fun and ragequit :angry:

I wonder if setting an unassigned team is what Valve does for the bots on director's commentary maps?

Edited by rm20010

Does TF2 have one of those trial deals like all of the other Valve games?

Not sure how it works as I have never done it, but definitely have heard of it on other games.

So if it does have that, can someone send me a trial invite?

I just built my first new gaming PC in over 3 years, and I am pretty sure I am going to buy this anyway, but of course it would not hurt to check it out first just to make super sure.

My Steam ID is DirtyLarry531

If you need my email address to do it, just PM me and I will gladly let you know.

If it does not do it, nevermind, and if it does, TIA.

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