Microsoft! we want more Ultimate extras!


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Exactly. I think I've used the Poker game once, and I've never touched DreamScene (who would want to).

I chose Ultimate because I wanted the features of both Home Premium and Business, not for a couple of little extra programs, of which similar versions can be freely downloaded elsewhere.

I'm sure lots of ultimate users would choose a non-Ultimate version, if they knew about this earlier

(and wonder why no one sueing yet lol)

Uhm, no. Most people bought Ultimate after researching the differences in (actual) features versus price. Maybe you're different, but I think it's insane to base a purchase like that on some vague concept that there will be magical "extras" that will make it stand out.

Uhm, no. Most people bought Ultimate after researching the differences in (actual) features versus price. Maybe you're different, but I think it's insane to base a purchase like that on some vague concept that there will be magical "extras" that will make it stand out.

didn't they have those tables with what each version had, and it had extras for ultimate. it could mislead buyers, but i don't think a buyer would spend a few extra hundred on 1 feature that doesn't effect what they are going to use it for.

i still think it is a bit **** how they have only put out a few things, and with sp1 made the extras less noticable (in the help etc..) as im sure it wouldn't be that hard to release the odd thing

didn't they have those tables with what each version had, and it had extras for ultimate. it could mislead buyers, but i don't think a buyer would spend a few extra hundred on 1 feature that doesn't effect what they are going to use it for.

For anyone who got misled by the extras item in the Vista features table, let me know, I have a bridge with some neat extras that I'd be interested in having you buy. :p

I got ultimate because black is cool, and i wanted to be able to use all the features avaliable. 90% of the time i cant see the background i just looked and noticed i have 4 months with the same wallpaper.

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Same, I got Ultimate because I wanted its features, the extras weren't really an incentive.

Same here, I wanted features from both Business and Premium. Plus I got it free through some promotion, so it really makes no difference to me, although I'd like something "extra" that was useful. If I want to play poker, I'll go to a casino and might just walk away with real cash (although I prefer Blackjack).

Yeah. I got a student / faculty license too. Paid $0.

What program does your university/college subscribe to? If it's MSDNAA, how is Vista Ultimate offered through there?

What program does your university/college subscribe to? If it's MSDNAA, how is Vista Ultimate offered through there?

I'm sure it is MSDNAA. I can't speak about the specifics, quite simply I don't know. But as 'staff' I was given Windows Vista Ultimate and Office 2007 Professional (each in a small brown envelope - with original media and SN inside) free of charge. Just had to sign a paper that the products are used for 'educational' purposes. Which it is! ;)

If I knew about the lack of worthwhile Extras when deciding upon my purchase, I would of saved myself a fair bit of money and got Home Premium.

So yes I must be one of those idiots who purchased Ultimate for the fact that "extra" features would constantly be added :(

i dont feel too bad about it i bought vista ultimate OEM dvd when it first came out for just under ?99 no way though would i pay the price for the full ?400 thats just a rip off to be honest. Alot of people i know who have vista ultimate went the oem dvd route.

The oem dvd route is better cus why in the hell would anyone want 2 versions of the OS, 32bit + 64bit? doesnt make sense

If ppl new they were going have like 4+GB of ram in the future youd just simply go buy the 64bit version.

although the retail version (32+64bit) you can buy for ?191 (Overclockers) now which is good that they dropped the price loads its still to much for an os i reckon

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