Lost - Season 5

[ATGC]

because she was in the past when she saw him? lol ( just like when Richard had no idea who John Locke was )

uhm, you misread what he wrote.

If Danielle saw Jin in the past, then she would have recalled his face in the future (even if she forgot his name). Facial recognition plays a large role in human communication.

Anyways, I'm going to watch past episodes with Danielle and Jin in it. I'm suspecting they never actually met, if this is true then it confirms the theory. If not, we have to wait and see until next week's episode.

Perhaps, there will be another time jump 2 months after Danielle's group crashed on the Island. This is when she starts killing off her team because of paranoia that they are infected by "the Others". So, this might play a role in her amnesia in the future IF she did meet Jin in Season 1 to 4.

Edited February 5, 2009 by NeptuneSaK

[episode]

Right. They could always just go 'she went freakin crazy, man!'

[Jigoku]

uhm, you misread what he wrote.

If Danielle saw Jin in the past, then she would have recalled his face in the future (even if she forgot his name). Facial recognition plays a large role in human communication.

but.. Rousseau first met him when she was way older? So why would she remember him

when she was only like 20 and still pregnant with Alex?

sorry if I'm missing something here. :x

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but.. Rousseau first met him when she was way older? So why would she remember him

when she was only like 20 and still pregnant with Alex?

sorry if I'm missing something here. :x

No, timeline-wise she first met him when she was first getting to the island and still pregnant.

Then she runs into him again after 815 crashes.

There also may be times in between when they come across each other that we haven't seen yet.

[ATGC]

but.. Rousseau first met him when she was way older? So why would she remember him

when she was only like 20 and still pregnant with Alex?

Let's assume for argument sake - Jin and Danielle met in 2004, after the 815 crash.

Time warp happens now: Why 1987? Because Danielle crashed on the Island 16 years before 815 crashed on the Island.

- Jin is living in his present in Danielle's past (which is really Danielle's present). I'm using Jin as frame of reference

- They meet in 1987 (tonight's episode), so Danielle now has memories of Jin from 1987

- 16 years later, she should still have memories of meeting Jin in 1987

- 2004, Jin and Danielle meet and have sexy time.

clearer?

[Jigoku]

No, timeline-wise she first met him when she was first getting to the island and still pregnant.

Then she runs into him again after 815 crashes.

There also may be times in between when they come across each other that we haven't seen yet.

ah, that finally got through my thick skull!

thanks for clearing that up for me episode and neptune. :D

[Mathachew Veteran]

I guess the Miles = Candle/Wickmund/Halliwax's son theory was correct.

Bwhahaha ;)

Great episode. I had a feeling Ben was behind Kate's trouble as a means of getting the O6 back together; you can't put something that devious past him.

Now Juliet's nose is bleeding. Crazy.

I'm really bugged about Jin being alive. A few minutes after the explosion, the island moved, and the helicopter was much closer than the boat was. I watched the scene where he "died", the outside of the flame was right where we last saw him, and the explosion itself would've sent him flying and likely caused serious damage. We can't expect to believe that he decided to jump off and swim towards the island, I mean, Sun was screaming for him, looking at him, up until it blew up, so she would've seen that or something. I liked his character and seeing him "die" was definitely a sad moment, but I was ready to let go, and now he's back (I recall saying the same thing about Nathan in Heroes). I'm hoping the writers have some kind of ace up their sleeve, because if he was in the radius like the zodiac, then surely the helicopter would have been. On the flip side, there could be an argument that the radius wasn't so much of a full circle all around the island, but more outwards into the ocean. I'm a bit pessimistic about this route, but by no means will it kill the show for me.

Another item, very minor, was the beam of light. No way the light from the hatch made that beam. It's an element for the sake of the plot, but not major. http://youtube.com/watch?v=-N7KOGnATgM

Edited February 5, 2009 by Mathachew

[Andrew Lyle Global Moderator]

Good episode, and even better ending! Totally didn't see that coming, when I should of.

[ATGC]

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I was thinking Jacob's calling of the dead played a role in it. :/

[sundayx Veteran]

So Jin is travelling through time same as the rest of the Losties right? Great to see Jin back! Funny though the freighter crew has so much connection to the Island.

[Julius Caro]

- 2004, Jin and Danielle meet and have sexy time.

clearer?

did that really happen?

what would happen if the island went to a time where juliet or charlotte were on the island but the others (and by others I mean the castaways, swayer, etc) were not? are there two juliets there at the same time or would juliet dissapear because there's already one juliet at that time? like with richard, should we assume that in 1954 or whenever it was, there was that one richard and another time-shifter richard?

The reason I asked that question is because... now we know that there can be two 'instances' of the same person at the same time lol. Like, "present" locke, juliet, swayer, etc.. went back to the time where claire gave birth, so there were two of them on the island.

MY question is, are ALL the others inhabitants of the island also travelling through time? When richard gave locke the compass, he dissapeared with the next flash, right? That means that that richard belonged to that time, and it was not "present-supposedly-time-travelling richard". Do we know 'when' richard gave the compass to locke? Was it the future? I guess it will all be explained when locke tells richard that we has wounded. But for all we know, that one richard was not moving through time.

[Soldiers33]

that was an awesome episode. So is that danielle the same one thats with locke now?

[MrChuang]

What about the people who attacked Swayer, Miles, Locke, Juliet, etc when they were out at sea, those people in the other canoe/boat thingy, who were they?

[Rappy Veteran]

that was an awesome episode. So is that danielle the same one thats with locke now?

Nope it would be this Danielle

Good episode (Y)

I totally saw that bit happening at the end tho, but the French people looked modern.

@mrchuang who knows, natives maybe?

5.05 Promo

[Sir Topham Hatt]

[Doesn't matter]

[Rappy Veteran]

Sorry, can someone just clarify, the Episode shown last night was Episode 4 right?

Of Season 5. . .

Yep

[PedroQ]

Wasn't Ben the father of Danielle's daghter (Alex)? The fact that Danielle is already pregnant when she crashed into the island doesn't make sense. Unless Ben isn't the real father or something.

[Rappy Veteran]

Wasn't Ben the father of Danielle's daghter (Alex)? The fact that Danielle is already pregnant when she crashed into the island doesn't make sense. Unless Ben isn't the real father or something.

Ben isn't the father, he just assumed duties when they stole the baby in one of their nightly raids, remember the others did that to the losties they stole the children at night.

[PedroQ]

Ben isn't the father, he just assumed duties when they stole the baby in one of their nightly raids, remember the others did that to the losties they stole the children at night.

Oh I see. That makes sense. Thanks Rappy.

[Rappy Veteran]

Couple of things I found just now which is interesting!

[MrChuang]

Ok say the people on the canoe were natives, why were the natives in the time zone where the camp has been deserted, because remember when they were looking for the zodiac and they saw canoes on the beach next to the camp which was deserted? Pretty good episode, it started slow and then picked up towards the end. Promo for next week looks great, and in episode 6 I just noticed in the cast list it has Fionnula Flanagan as Eloise Hawking, guess I am slow at noticing this.

[Rappy Veteran]

Well its that or they are other crash victims...because they had water from Ajira Airlines which has been big in the ARG in the months where Lost wasn't on.

[SuperJediMedia]

Jin!!!!!!!!!! Good to see you Alive!!! :D

Edited February 5, 2009 by JediXAngel

[SuperJediMedia]

Nope it would be this Danielle

People really don't know who Danielle is?

[HilariousNinja]

Does this have anything to do with that flashback last season where Jin really wanted to get that stuffed panda and also at the same time (presumably) Sun was in labour? And it turned out that Jin was actually going to give the panda to his boss's newborn. I wonder maybe Sun hasn't realised that Jin wasn't actually alive and stuff.