Chris-Gonzales Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 I'll bite: you drop it, you're the one egging it on. :laugh: what ever man.... I don't never look at who I'm replying to.Some people is more Obvious THAN others. But I don't care if you have 50000 posts or 5. I agree Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/658010-lost-season-5/page/51/#findComment-590599410 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Lyle Global Moderator Posted February 19, 2009 Global Moderator Share Posted February 19, 2009 Such a good episode! What's the deal with Aaron? Is he not coming back to the island? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/658010-lost-season-5/page/51/#findComment-590599440 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris-Gonzales Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 Such a good episode! What's the deal with Aaron? Is he not coming back to the island? I'm thinking someone took him. They went back the the island 46 hours AFTER going in the church with ms hawkings. Before that they were at that boat dock when kate took off. With out arron, she has no one or anything. Her mom is dieing or already dead, (didnt have a good relationship with her anyway) jack would be going back and sawyer was left on the island. Whats left for her? Nothing, so she chose to go back to the island to be with the people she has called "family" for over 3 months Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/658010-lost-season-5/page/51/#findComment-590599462 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmWaka25 Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 :laugh: what ever man.... I agree mehhhh, "i agree" this is why i never join forums... you people act as if you're discussing world peace, or arguing the cure for cancer or something you're talking about a television show...so call it what it is, act more respectful, and just TRY to be a little more tolerant we all know everyone wants to be 'RIGHT' and know the 'MOST'... but honestly, put ur ###### and rulers away and just talk about 'lost' and CHILL OUT while you do so. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/658010-lost-season-5/page/51/#findComment-590599482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
episode Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 I just noticed from that pic: Locke wasn't off island for that long, because he is wearing a cast, so less than a few months since he turned the wheel. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/658010-lost-season-5/page/51/#findComment-590599484 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Hammond Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 Who is that guy, looks a bit like ben? Didnt ben say that he didnt know Locke commited suicide when Jack asked? Naughty Ben. Its either ben or richard in that pic. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/658010-lost-season-5/page/51/#findComment-590599506 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmWaka25 Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 clearly ben, i'd recognize that receeding hairline anywhere Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/658010-lost-season-5/page/51/#findComment-590599516 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Peewee210 Subscriber¹ Posted February 19, 2009 Author Subscriber¹ Share Posted February 19, 2009 Who is that guy, looks a bit like ben?Didnt ben say that he didnt know Locke commited suicide when Jack asked? Naughty Ben. Its either ben or richard in that pic. It's Ben Well, Ben always lies, even Ms. Hawking knows that. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/658010-lost-season-5/page/51/#findComment-590599522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rappy Veteran Posted February 19, 2009 Veteran Share Posted February 19, 2009 Yeah I'd say Ben Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/658010-lost-season-5/page/51/#findComment-590599526 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathachew Veteran Posted February 19, 2009 Veteran Share Posted February 19, 2009 Who is that guy, looks a bit like ben?Didnt ben say that he didnt know Locke commited suicide when Jack asked? Naughty Ben. Its either ben or richard in that pic. Ben's also a pathological liar, so chances are he knew and possibly had a hand in helping Locke commit suicide. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/658010-lost-season-5/page/51/#findComment-590599532 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATGC Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 (edited) All that proves is that the Army got to the island in 1954, which we knew already. Notice the date too, September 23, 1954. I don't think it links the DI and US Army any more than it means someone in the DI can get their hands on classified pictures. No, try and think about it before dismissing it. The Lamppost, a Dharma station, was created in order to find the Island, i.e. before 1970s. We know the US military was able to get to the Island in 1954. What does this imply? This should be obvious, but I’ll explain anyways. It shows that the US Army had to have used the same station to get the Island. As Ellie said, the Island is always moving and that X professor figured out a way to find the Island. Hence, that same professor would have worked with the US military. It’s just more logical and plausible that the US Army and Dharma worked together finding that Island during lets say 1920s – 1954s to get to the Island. No, I don't think they ever end up living those three years. They jump back to the DI time period and go from there. Just because three years passed off-island (05 to 08) doesn't mean that three years had to pass on island with all the time jumps. Live a portion of them, sure, but I would say more like 2-3 months rather than 3 years. Yes, it does mean that. Living on the Island doesn’t mean you lose years off your life. We know Daniel works with the construction crew, Daniel finds Charlotte, Charlotte learning Korean (possibly from Jin). They basically made a life in those 2-3 years in the 1970s. What evidence, if any do you have that supports “2-3 months”? Nothing… Edited February 19, 2009 by NeptuneSaK Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/658010-lost-season-5/page/51/#findComment-590599534 Share on other sites More sharing options...
draklin Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 It's BenWell, Ben always lies, even Ms. Hawking knows that. I wonder how many truths have been told by Ben that were automatically assumed to be lies? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/658010-lost-season-5/page/51/#findComment-590599546 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Peewee210 Subscriber¹ Posted February 19, 2009 Author Subscriber¹ Share Posted February 19, 2009 I wonder how many truths have been told by Ben that were automatically assumed to be lies? I guess a fair few! :laugh: I bet he knows that the island the has been moving around in time as well. We shall see next week. I am right to think that after next week's episode, there is a week break? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/658010-lost-season-5/page/51/#findComment-590599558 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathachew Veteran Posted February 19, 2009 Veteran Share Posted February 19, 2009 I guess a fair few! :laugh:I bet he knows that the island the has been moving around in time as well. We shall see next week. I am right to think that after next week's episode, there is a week break? From what I can tell, there is no longer going to be a break, unless they moved the break back. The list of episodes has #14 airing near the middle of April, leaving three more episodes to air, so maybe the break occurs before the May sweeps. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/658010-lost-season-5/page/51/#findComment-590599576 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rappy Veteran Posted February 19, 2009 Veteran Share Posted February 19, 2009 I guess a fair few! :laugh:I bet he knows that the island the has been moving around in time as well. We shall see next week. I am right to think that after next week's episode, there is a week break? 92. 5- 7 507 25 Feb 09 The Life and Death of Jeremy Bentham 93. 5- 8 508 4 Mar 09 LaFleur 94. 5- 9 509 18 Mar 09 Namaste There is a break planned it seems. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/658010-lost-season-5/page/51/#findComment-590599586 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATGC Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 So, Desmond has been saving the world all this time. Typing the numbers in every 108 minutes was moving the Island in space-time. After blowing the Swan station up, either Ellie + Widmore or separately used the Lamppost to bring the freighter in. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/658010-lost-season-5/page/51/#findComment-590599594 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathachew Veteran Posted February 19, 2009 Veteran Share Posted February 19, 2009 92. 5- 7 507 25 Feb 09 The Life and Death of Jeremy Bentham 93. 5- 8 508 4 Mar 09 LaFleur 94. 5- 9 509 18 Mar 09 Namaste There is a break planned it seems. Hrm.... according to a spoiler site I frequently visit, Namaste is only the 11th, but they're probably wrong. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/658010-lost-season-5/page/51/#findComment-590599598 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rappy Veteran Posted February 19, 2009 Veteran Share Posted February 19, 2009 Hrm.... according to a spoiler site I frequently visit, Namaste is only the 11th, but they're probably wrong. I mean epguides.com might be wrong, might have a look on TV.com, ok they say the same. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/658010-lost-season-5/page/51/#findComment-590599610 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathachew Veteran Posted February 19, 2009 Veteran Share Posted February 19, 2009 So, Desmond has been saving the world all this time. Typing the numbers in every 108 minutes was moving the Island in space-time. After blowing the Swan station up, either Ellie + Widmore or separately used the Lamppost to bring the freighter in. Well we did see Penny's people find the island because of the electromagnetic anomaly and they were someplace with a harsh winter, which couldn't have been Los Angeles. How Charles Widmore found it, though, could have possibly been through Daniel through Eloise to find it. Hopefully we'll find out. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/658010-lost-season-5/page/51/#findComment-590599630 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATGC Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 How Charles Widmore found it, though, could have possibly been through Daniel through Eloise to find it. Hopefully we'll find out. Yeah, I agree. Either way the Lamppost was significant in finding the Island for all three of them, Ellie, Widmore and Penny. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/658010-lost-season-5/page/51/#findComment-590599696 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GameOverRob Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 Lostpedia said Lamp Post could be a reference to Narnia...which I never thought of. That was the first thing that came to mind for me, 'the way home!' Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/658010-lost-season-5/page/51/#findComment-590599822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
episode Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 No, try and think about it before dismissing it. The Lamppost, a Dharma station, was created in order to find the Island, i.e. before 1970s. We know the US military was able to get to the Island in 1954. What does this imply? This should be obvious, but I’ll explain anyways. It shows that the US Army had to have used the same station to get the Island. As Ellie said, the Island is always moving and that X professor figured out a way to find the Island. Hence, that same professor would have worked with the US military. It’s just more logical and plausible that the US Army and Dharma worked together finding that Island during lets say 1920s – 1954s to get to the Island. DHARMA was founded in 1970. Also, the Army got to the island by accident. They were not planning on going there. Therefore they didn't have the Lamp-Post or anything else to get there. The classified pic was probably taken because it was to be the site of the hydrogen bomb testing. Yes, it does mean that. Living on the Island doesn’t mean you lose years off your life. We know Daniel works with the construction crew, Daniel finds Charlotte, Charlotte learning Korean (possibly from Jin). They basically made a life in those 2-3 years in the 1970s. What evidence, if any do you have that supports “2-3 months”? Nothing… Its not 'living' on the island. Its moving through time. They don't 'age' any faster, they just move into a different time period. When Ben moved 8 months into the future when he turned the wheel, did he lose those 8 months 'off his life'? No, he just moved in time. Same applies here. What evidence do I have that supports its only a few months? None, but either do you to say they lived all three years in the 70s. It doesn't make sense to just assume that since 3 years passed off-island, 3 years also passed after all the time shifts on the island. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/658010-lost-season-5/page/51/#findComment-590599858 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATGC Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 DHARMA was founded in 1970. Dharma in my argument being those people involved in finding the Island for US Army (1950s) and Dharma (1970s). Hence, the relation. Can't believe you won't accept the obvious. Its not 'living' on the island. Its moving through time. They don't 'age' any faster, they just move into a different time period. What evidence do I have that supports its only a few months? None, but either do you to say they lived all three years in the 70s. Who's talking about them aging faster? Reread my argument, don't make up stuff. Sawyer, Juliet, Miles, Daniel, Jin, and any other Losties are stuck in the 1970s. This is fact now. Those flashes occurred right after Ben pushed the TDW. Jin has been floating all this time right after the freighter explosion. Sawyer, Locke, Juliet, Miles, Daniel, Charlotte have being trying to reach the Orchid right after the Island disappeared from the original timeline. Yes, they are moving back in time, however, they are not skipping time off their lives. It doesn't make sense to just assume that since 3 years passed off-island, 3 years also passed after all the time shifts on the island. It makes absolute sense. If X amount of time went by in Y location, then X amount of time went by in Z location. Also, the Army got to the island by accident. They were not planning on going there. Therefore they didn't have the Lamp-Post or anything else to get there. The classified pic was probably taken because it was to be the site of the hydrogen bomb testing. Believe whatever you want, it will be explained soon enough. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/658010-lost-season-5/page/51/#findComment-590600026 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noveed Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 Dharma in my argument being those people involved in finding the Island for US Army (1950s) and Dharma (1970s). Hence, the relation. Can't believe you won't accept the obvious. Who's talking about them aging faster? Reread my argument, don't make up stuff. Sawyer, Juliet, Miles, Daniel, Jin, and any other Losties are stuck in the 1970s. This is fact now. Those flashes occurred right after Ben pushed the TDW. Jin has been floating all this time right after the freighter explosion. Sawyer, Locke, Juliet, Miles, Daniel, Charlotte have being trying to reach the Orchid right after the Island disappeared from the original timeline. Yes, they are moving back in time, however, they are not skipping time off their lives. It makes absolute sense. If X amount of time went by in Y location, then X amount of time went by in Z location. Believe whatever you want, it will be explained soon enough. one thing you are forgetting, time passes differently on the island then it does off the island, there is a delay or whatever. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/658010-lost-season-5/page/51/#findComment-590600262 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATGC Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 one thing you are forgetting, time passes differently on the island then it does off the island, there is a delay or whatever. 31 minutes or so. Still doesn't shrink time on Island to 2-3 months, whereas 2-3 years is more likely. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/658010-lost-season-5/page/51/#findComment-590600274 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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