Linkinfamous Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 Watch the trailer again. You can see Locke on the island with the new people alive. There's time travel, Jacob taking him over (He is a proxy for Christian, no?), 'Monster' illusions, etc. that could all account for Locke. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/658010-lost-season-5/page/53/#findComment-590604002 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rappy Veteran Posted February 20, 2009 Veteran Share Posted February 20, 2009 Watch the trailer again. You can see Locke on the island with the new people alive. Yeah Locke is taking his hood off and then talking to agent woman Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/658010-lost-season-5/page/53/#findComment-590604102 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HilariousNinja Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 Also there's the fact that Locke says he remembers dying.... EDIT: Walt is in episode 7, just saw the set list. Could he be involved in some way? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/658010-lost-season-5/page/53/#findComment-590604188 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathachew Veteran Posted February 20, 2009 Veteran Share Posted February 20, 2009 I still say Locke is in the same position as Christian, "alive" on the island, but not a physical living being. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/658010-lost-season-5/page/53/#findComment-590604202 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garry Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 Did anyone notice the name of the place in the church? The Lamppost. Is that a reference to The Lion, The Witch and the Wardrobe? The Lamppost was how the children found their way in and out of Narnia. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/658010-lost-season-5/page/53/#findComment-590604946 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rappy Veteran Posted February 20, 2009 Veteran Share Posted February 20, 2009 Did anyone notice the name of the place in the church? The Lamppost. Is that a reference to The Lion, The Witch and the Wardrobe? The Lamppost was how the children found their way in and out of Narnia. Yep its a great reference. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/658010-lost-season-5/page/53/#findComment-590604962 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATGC Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 EDIT: Walt is in episode 7, just saw the set list. Could he be involved in some way? In "There's No Place Like Home: Part 2" from Season 4, Walt told Hurley that Locke came to see him. So, we are going to see all of Locke's visits with the O6 and Ben. Perhaps, even Helen and obviously Widmore from the preview. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/658010-lost-season-5/page/53/#findComment-590605074 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pretend Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 Great episode :p Back to great witty comments from Ben "How can you read?" "My mother taught me :) " Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/658010-lost-season-5/page/53/#findComment-590605538 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathachew Veteran Posted February 20, 2009 Veteran Share Posted February 20, 2009 Great episode :p Back to great witty comments from Ben "How can you read?" "My mother taught me :) " What's even funnier about this is that Ben's mom died during child birth. Even for simple, small things this guy lies :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/658010-lost-season-5/page/53/#findComment-590605544 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad. Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 I'm even more confused/angry at the show now. If the losties who wanted to return to the island (Jack, Sun, Kate etc.) but had to use the aeroplane method to get there, then how did the military guys get there via cargo ship and helicopter, I mean the island is constantly moving, right? :/ Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/658010-lost-season-5/page/53/#findComment-590605922 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob2687 Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 Maybe the island was some how anchored down for a period of time. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/658010-lost-season-5/page/53/#findComment-590605948 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad. Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 Maybe the island was some how anchored down for a period of time. Maybe, the only other theory is that Ben triggered the island to go crazy and move everywhere, then Locke proceeded to halt it again, but that would go against Faraday's mother and ''the island is always moving''. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/658010-lost-season-5/page/53/#findComment-590605978 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 (edited) edit: Nevermind. Edited February 21, 2009 by ynnoj Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/658010-lost-season-5/page/53/#findComment-590605990 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad. Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 -edited due to previous comment removed :p - Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/658010-lost-season-5/page/53/#findComment-590606002 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATGC Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 (edited) Maybe, the only other theory is that Ben triggered the island to go crazy and move everywhere, then Locke proceeded to halt it again, but that would go against Faraday's mother and ''the island is always moving''. I think what Ellie meant by saying, "the Island is always moving, then subsequently saying, “that’s why no one could rescue you” was because of Desmond. As Desmond/Kevin/Radzinsky kept pushing the button every 108 minutes, it caused these ‘movements’. After Desmond stopped, the 815 crashed, after he resumed and the Losties resumed pushing the button, they were continuing the movement of the Island. Once Desmond blew up the Swan, I believe Ellie or Widmore used the Lamppost to send in the freighter and Penny used another electromagnetic area either in North or South pole to send in her boat, which came much later than the freighter. At the same time, Desmond started seeing the flashes and eventually the arrival of Naomi and the freighter. So, the Swan was responsible for the Island always moving. Evidently, after its destruction that all these rescues started happening. Edited February 21, 2009 by NeptuneSaK Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/658010-lost-season-5/page/53/#findComment-590606066 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathachew Veteran Posted February 21, 2009 Veteran Share Posted February 21, 2009 I think what Ellie meant by saying, "the Island is always moving, then subsequently saying, ?that?s why no one could rescue you? was because of Desmond. As Desmond/Kevin/Radzinsky kept pushing the button every 108 minutes, it caused these ?movements?. After Desmond stopped, the 815 crashed, after he resumed and the Losties resumed pushing the button, they were continuing to movement of the Island. Once Desmond blew up the Swan, I believe Ellie or Widmore used the Lamppost to send in the freighter and Penny used another electromagnetic area either in North or South pole to send in her boat, which came much later than the freighter. At the same time, Desmond started seeing the flashes and eventually the arrival of Naomi and the freighter. So, the Swan was responsible for the Island always moving. Evidently, after its destruction that all these rescues started happening. The problem I have with this theory is that the button was put there long after the island was moving around. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/658010-lost-season-5/page/53/#findComment-590606108 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATGC Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 (edited) The problem I have with this theory is that the button was put there long after the island was moving around. Yeah, I agree. Perhaps, it will be explained by the "Incident" at the Swan in one of the upcoming episodes. Though, it could have been some naturally occurring discharge caused on the Island that later Dharma started controlling. edit: Actually, I think that theory is true. Ellie saying that the Island is always moving could just mean because of what Dharma did. From late 1960s to early 1970s, they could have already started pushing the button, constantly stabilizing the discharge ever since. Before that, who would have bothered looking for the Island? Aside from the people involved with the Lamppost. Edited February 21, 2009 by NeptuneSaK Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/658010-lost-season-5/page/53/#findComment-590606120 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad. Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 Very good theory Neptune (Y) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/658010-lost-season-5/page/53/#findComment-590606250 Share on other sites More sharing options...
episode Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 Yeah, I agree. Perhaps, it will be explained by the "Incident" at the Swan in one of the upcoming episodes. Though, it could have been some naturally occurring discharge caused on the Island that later Dharma started controlling. edit: Actually, I think that theory is true. Ellie saying that the Island is always moving could just mean because of what Dharma did. From late 1960s to early 1970s, they could have already started pushing the button, constantly stabilizing the discharge ever since. Before that, who would have bothered looking for the Island? Aside from the people involved with the Lamppost. And thats why they were told they were 'saving the world'. Good theory. Its possible the island 'moves' without the button being pressed, just at slower rate. That would explain why it was never simple to get there, but not impossible. Would also explain how the Kahana could find it after the Swan was destroyed. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/658010-lost-season-5/page/53/#findComment-590607724 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundayx Veteran Posted February 21, 2009 Veteran Share Posted February 21, 2009 I like the discussion guys, makes sense. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/658010-lost-season-5/page/53/#findComment-590607780 Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterish Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 Another clue that supports the theory of Ben killing Penny: He called Jack from a pier; and of course Penny was living on a boat. Desmond must have managed to injure him in the process. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/658010-lost-season-5/page/53/#findComment-590608276 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rappy Veteran Posted February 21, 2009 Veteran Share Posted February 21, 2009 Another clue that supports the theory of Ben killing Penny: He called Jack from a pier; and of course Penny was living on a boat. Desmond must have managed to injure him in the process. It would certainly give Desmond a reason to come after Ben i.e the island. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/658010-lost-season-5/page/53/#findComment-590608280 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Peewee210 Subscriber¹ Posted February 21, 2009 Author Subscriber¹ Share Posted February 21, 2009 It would certainly give Desmond a reason to come after Ben i.e the island. Good point! Good theory's here Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/658010-lost-season-5/page/53/#findComment-590608568 Share on other sites More sharing options...
episode Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 Another clue that supports the theory of Ben killing Penny: He called Jack from a pier; and of course Penny was living on a boat. Desmond must have managed to injure him in the process. I thought of that, but sailing from England to LA in one day is impossible. If Des and Penny are on their boat, thats a huge continuity error. I think it has something to do with Des/Penny, but I would think its more likely that Ben and Desmond got into a fight over Ben trying to get Penny's location. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/658010-lost-season-5/page/53/#findComment-590608794 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomZ Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 Desmond (and pennny and the boat) went to LA because Desmond wanted to pass on the message to faraday's mum Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/658010-lost-season-5/page/53/#findComment-590608820 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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