Lost - Season 5

[ATGC]

You are wrong. Deal with it.

Quit trolling. It's my opinion, there is no right or wrong. Until its officially confirmed, DEAL WITH IT.

Lostpedia states, "While at the store, she briefly loses Aaron and finds him walking with a woman, who from behind looks like Claire. Kate is reunited with Aaron at the store, and goes to visit Cassidy again."

Right. Lostpedia. :rolleyes:

Why can't you accept that the writers did this to make us think it was Claire for just a moment.

Think here for a second instead of defending your little theory just because you want an argument.

Why would the writers go back on the previous scene where Claire comes to Kate and tells her not to bring Aaron to the Island. What is the significance of Claire going off Island to take Aaron? It's not my fault you were fooled into believing it was Claire so easily for that moment of time.

That was the reason Kate had that look on her face. She realized he isn't her son and that it was time to start telling the truth. That scene is the pivotal moment that makes her realize she needed to go back to the island.

Agreed. But the state of confusion or clarity on Kate's face was because she knew it was a kidnapper. Not because she thought it was Claire.

[DomZ]

The writers picked a character who looked similar to Claire, because this is what played on the emotions of Kate who after this event decides to go back to the Island "to get Claire", knowing that she can't be Aarons mum forever.

The fact the actor looked similar to Claire was more significant to Kate than it was to the viewer, I personally didn't have bells ringing when I saw the scene (about it being Claire), but can see in retrospect why that particular actor was chosen.

[Hurmoth]

Why would the writers go back on the previous scene where Claire comes to Kate and tells her not to bring Aaron to the Island. What is the significance of Claire going off Island to take Aaron? It's not my fault you were fooled into believing it was Claire so easily for that moment of time.

Agreed. But the state of confusion or clarity on Kate's face was because she knew it was a kidnapper. Not because she thought it was Claire.

NO ONE SAID IT WAS CLAIRE!!! Damn. What is your problem?

That was the point at all. The point is the writers wrote that scene in there to make Kate and the audience to think it was Claire so we could understand why she decided to go back. It is the only explanation as to why she decided to go back. It is solely because she thought it was Claire at first, not because it was a kidnapper. If she had only thought it was a kidnapper she wouldn't have said thank you, but she realized the island was sending her a message, that she needed to go back.

[ATGC]

NO ONE SAID IT WAS CLAIRE!!! Damn. What is your problem?

Easy there tough guy. No need to get upset over differences of opinion on a forum.

That was the point at all. The point is the writers wrote that scene in there to make Kate and the audience to think it was Claire so we could understand why she decided to go back. It is the only explanation as to why she decided to go back.

Kate: I lost him.

Cassidy: What?

Kate: I don't know what happened, we were in the supermarket and I turned around for one second and he was gone.

[Kate teary eyes]

Kate: I mean, the crazy thing is, as scared as I was, I wasn't surprised.

Kate: All I can think was, it was about time.

Kate: Why would I feel this way, why would I expect him to be taken?

She decided to go back after the conversation with Cassidy due that scene in the supermarket.

It is solely because she thought it was Claire at first, not because it was a kidnapper. If she had only thought it was a kidnapper she wouldn't have said thank you, but she realized the island was sending her a message, that she needed to go back.

No, her eyes were fixed on Aaron as she called out for Aaron. She didn't say Claire out loud, she said Aaron. And so, the kidnapper turned around...

[Hurmoth]

Easy there tough guy. No need to get upset over differences of opinion on a forum.

Kate: I lost him.

Cassidy: What?

Kate: I don't know what happened, we were in the supermarket and I turned around for one second and he was gone.

[Kate teary eyes]

Kate: I mean, the crazy thing is, as scared as I was, I wasn't surprised.

Kate: All I can think was, it was about time.

Kate: Why would I feel this way, why would I expect him to be taken?

She decided to go back after the conversation with Cassidy due that scene in the supermarket.

No, her eyes were fixed on Aaron as she called out for Aaron. She didn't say Claire out loud, she said Aaron. And so, the kidnapper turned around...

:no: It doesn't matter what she said, what matters is what happened, what we saw. We were suppose to see Claire and I'm sorry that you didn't, but that doesn't change the fact the we were meant to think it was Claire. I've taken enough writing courses to know the tricks writers/directors use and this is clearly one of them.

She obviously doesn't tell Cassidy everything, so it is safe to assume she didn't tell her about the big smoke monster, or hearing voices in the jungle, etc. If she admitted she thought she saw Claire then Cassidy might think she's crazy and losing it.

Why else would she run to Claire's mom to give Aaron up? Because she thought she saw Claire and it triggered something. I really don't get why this is so hard to accept?

[ATGC]

:no: It doesn't matter what she said,

Yep, let's completely ignore what Kate got out of it and insert your own theory to justify what happened.

what matters is what happened, what we saw. We were suppose to see Claire and I'm sorry that you didn't, but that doesn't change the fact the we were meant to think it was Claire. I've taken enough writing courses to know the tricks writers/directors use and this is clearly one of them.

Oh, wow. You took courses... you KNOW everything that's happening on LOST. Damn, I feel so stupid now arguing with a LOST-writer.

Why else would she run to Claire's mom to give Aaron up? Because she thought she saw Claire and it triggered something. I really don't get why this is so hard to accept?

Either that or it was finally apparent that Aaron being taken away was a relief for her. Which was the case in the discussion between Kate and Cassidy. Latter seems more likely because it was the explanation given by the writers, not that she "thought" she saw Claire in the supermarket.

Anyway, this is a non-issue. You can continue to stroke your penis if you wish.

[Rappy Veteran]

WHAT'S TO COME:

Brinn in Santa Barbara, Calif.: So, I am in no way asking you to reveal the Lost death to me, but would you possibly be able to confirm that it is not Penny? I am suddenly freaking out that TPTB might kill off one half of my favorite TV couples ever. Hopefully you can help ease my unease. Wait, if you can't confirm that it isn't her then it might be ruined for me. Ahh, what a pickle I'm in! I guess you should just proceed at your own discretion.

It's not Penny.

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I for one, believe that the character was chosen deliberately to look like Claire. The producers choose their actors carefully. In this case, it was to imply, even for a brief second "Is that Claire". Still, I am not convinced her intentions were to take Aaron, since she was in no rush to get out and she had a basket of groceries. But those are moot points.

[Tristan]

According to Miles' time theory, when the Losties first crashed on the island, shouldn't Richard remember them? Also in this season when Sawyer talked to Richard in the 70s, shouldn't Richard remember him from when the island had those flashes and John met Richard?

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It was clearly meant to look to the viewer and Kate like it was Claire taking Aaron.

I don't know how you could think otherwise.

According to Miles' time theory, when the Losties first crashed on the island, shouldn't Richard remember them? Also in this season when Sawyer talked to Richard in the 70s, shouldn't Richard remember him from when the island had those flashes and John met Richard?

Sawyer didn't go to the camp in 1954.

[Mathachew Veteran]

According to Miles' time theory, when the Losties first crashed on the island, shouldn't Richard remember them? Also in this season when Sawyer talked to Richard in the 70s, shouldn't Richard remember him from when the island had those flashes and John met Richard?

Richard can't remember anything that hasn't happened yet in his timeline.

[Hurmoth]

I do have to ask a question though that just hit me. Why does a janitor have a key to a jail cell? What use would he have for it? If he needed to clean up in there, would a security officer be there with him making him needing a key useless.

[ATGC]

According to Miles' time theory, when the Losties first crashed on the island, shouldn't Richard remember them?

Yeah, he would be the only one on the Island who knows what happens on a linear timeline. So, Richard knew about John, Daniel, Charlotte, Miles, Juliet, and Sawyer in post 815 crash.

Also in this season when Sawyer talked to Richard in the 70s, shouldn't Richard remember him from when the island had those flashes and John met Richard?

Richard never actually met Sawyer from what we saw in that episode. But Sawyer was at the 1954 camp right when it disappeared. It's possible, Ellie told Richard about Sawyer and Juliet, but I don't think she knew their names.

Sawyer didn't go to the camp in 1954.

He did at the end when Ellie, Daniel and Juliet came back from Jughead.

[Hurmoth]

He did at the end when Ellie, Daniel and Juliet came back from Jughead.

Sawyer never met Richard during that time though, only Ellie. Immediately after Ellie drops her gun, another flash happened.

[Rappy Veteran]

I do have to ask a question though that just hit me. Why does a janitor have a key to a jail cell? What use would he have for it? If he needed to clean up in there, would a security officer be there with him making him needing a key useless.

I was thinking that, he's not a security guard so there would be no reason for him to have those keys.

[ATGC]

Sawyer never met Richard during that time though, only Ellie. Immediately after Ellie drops her gun, another flash happened.

duh, I already said in that post. And no, another flash occurred much later...they were all at camp together when it happened.

[Noveed]

duh, I already said in that post. And no, another flash occurred much later...they were all at camp together when it happened.

but Richard never saw Sawyer or Juliet... Duh!

[ATGC]

but Richard never saw Sawyer or Juliet... Duh!

I already mentioned that, what is your point?

Richard never actually met Sawyer from what we saw in that episode. But Sawyer was at the 1954 camp right when it disappeared. It's possible, Ellie told Richard about Sawyer and Juliet, but I don't think she knew their names.

[Pallab]

I loved this episode. Loved the scenes involving Hurley and Miles. That's what I have always wanted to see - characters reacting like normal people to the situation, debating the same things we are debating.

The new sawyer is also interesting. I am also thankfull to the writers for finally resolving the love quadrangle (hopefully).

And I actually agree with Hurley. I am one of those who thinks that the writers are just misleading us things can be changed. May be the incident will give us the answer.

And man wtf wtf wtf @ next weeks promo

[Nicholas-c Veteran]

Was talking to my boss (2 of them infact) who LOVE lost, haven't missed an episode etc and they think Lost is getting boring and losing its way... i don't think that ?

/Discuss :p

[Mathachew Veteran]

This season has been fantastic so far with the exception of about 38 minutes of the last episode.

[ATGC]

Best season yet. We always wanted to learn more about Dharma stuff and we are now.

Only complaint throughout the season I have isn't LOST's fault but that of HD ABC and their need for lengthy commercials.

[Hurmoth]

Even with the extra time for ads, each episode is around the same amount as any other hour long drama.

Episode of Heroes - 41 minutes

Episode of Lost - 42 minutes

So we're getting the same amount of show. I don't see any reason to complain, ABC has to pay for the show some how and with the decrease in viewership compared to the first couple of seasons, ABC had to add in more ad time (and only by 2 minutes) to make up the money.

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Best season yet. We always wanted to learn more about Dharma stuff and we are now.

Only complaint throughout the season I have isn't LOST's fault but that of HD ABC and their need for lengthy commercials.

Lost takes one less set of breaks than most shows.

[Rappy Veteran]

Episode 5.12 - Dead Is Dead - UK Press Release

In order to atone for the awful sins of his past, Ben attempts to summon the Smoke Monster ready to be judged.

As he seeks redemption, we learn more about Ben's terrible actions and meet some faces from the past. His relationship with 'daughter' Alex is revealed, as is the story of how he came to steal her from Danielle.

But what is the truth behind the enmity between Ben and Charles Widmore ? and did he make good on his vow to avenge Alex's death?

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