Lost - Season 5

[Nicholas-c Veteran]

Great episode! What was with the pool of water?! Strange...

Loved the Temple part :D

ben needed the toilet before meeting smokey :p

I am thinking the pool is smokey?

[HilariousNinja]

Wow, just saw the promo for next weeks, I thought last weeks promo was awesome!

Hurley: " There's a body bag here with a body in it" - :laugh:

From the spoiler, does this mean that Miles knows about Pierre and could even be his like son? And very odd about Miles being able to see dead people...

Anyways, great episode. I was quite surprised about finding out Ben not doing his dirty work and just getting owned by Desmond. Ilana must be working for Widmore, because clearly by the way she doesn't behave like someone who just came out of a plane crash by wacking Frank with a gun. And by that picture posted by Rappy, couldn't Jacob be like a descendent of Anubis or something, and working for him to benefit the island?

[SuperJediMedia]

Anubis = Afterlife?

[+Peewee210 Subscriber¹]

Anubis = Afterlife?

Well, according to Wiki, Anubis was the god to protect the dead and bring them to the afterlife

[draklin]

"In the shadow of the statue". That obviously refers to the Temple. So she knows about the island and what to expect there. Now the question is how many of the other crash survivors are with her. Ceaser obviously wasn't one of them and when he got shot by Ben was so unexpected as I thought Ben would use him to keep John away from him.

[mancode20]

Yep. Right on about Anubis. Also, this stuff gets way deeper if you read through all the different Wikipedia articles. I found some links on DARKUFO that explains so much about the mythology behind Lost. For example, ever wonder why it's called Oceanic Airlines? Read this! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Island#Oceanic_islands And remember that thing Illana said, "what lies in the shadow of the statue?" You might understand that more if you read this. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptian_soul

Also, ever wonder what the smoke monster is? It could be one or both of these things. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ammit or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apep

Also, this week's episode is called "Some Like It Hoth." A reference to Star Wars? Most definitely considering the creators are huge Star Wars geeks, but if you look deeper you'll find this. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thoth

And could this be the island? Guess what it means! Underworld. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duat

Remember how Christian said you have a long journey ahead of you? Could he be talking about the journey to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaru

Doesn't this sound like a bald, suddenly alive character on the show? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osiris

It's pretty wild stuff!!

[Rappy Veteran]

Is it just me or did middle age Charles look nothing like Charles? :laugh:

[D!ABOL!C]

It's just weird summoning the monster like that, and somehow younger Ben reminds me of Hitler, the hair I guess.

I thought the exact same thing. He looked like Hitler without the stache... i wonder if they meant to do that?

[idioot]

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i210/damienuk/d2bdab04.jpg

Anubis kneeling before Smokey ?

[Pretend]

Is it just me or did middle age Charles look nothing like Charles? :laugh:

Yeah, the younger Charles looked exactly like he would be but this guy didn't. But yeah, did he even have the accent :laugh: :s

[Mathachew Veteran]

I think it's reversed, smokey is Anubis' servant.

[Nicholas-c Veteran]

looks more like Anubis summoning smokey

theory time: Always prepared my theory for when one of my three gods was revealed and I was right on the money, this isn't my offical theory but putting it out there... Jacob takes orders from Anubis who controls smokey and therefor controls who lives and dies. we have seen alex back from the dead, Ekos brother among many other people and Locke is alive again which means that he is back from the underworld thanks to smokey/Anubis

Ben seemed to know about smokeys mind tricks? seen it before possibly?

[Beastage]

Wow, excellent episode! what did Alex tell to Ben right after she grabbed him? I know you planning to kill John's kid?

The 316's aren't just passengers, maybe new attempt by Charles Widmore to get the island? they clearly know more, or maybe they are Dharma.

The glyph showed Smokey appearing before Anubis, is Ben supposed to be Anubis?

Time theories... ok we assume what happened happened right? but now I'm thinking... maybe not so much.

Remember when Daniel went to Hatch Desmond and told him to find his mother? supposedly this is a memory that Desmond should have had already but it popped up in Desmond head out of no where...

I think that while the losties were moving through time, the Island was in the present, so when Daniel told Desmond, the memory got created instantly in Desmond's head, get what I mean? I think what happened happened is just preparation for a twist.

[Mathachew Veteran]

Wow, excellent episode! what did Alex tell to Ben right after she grabbed him? I know you planning to kill John's kid?

She said "kill John again."

Time theories... ok we assume what happened happened right? but now I'm thinking... maybe not so much.

Remember when Daniel went to Hatch Desmond and told him to find his mother? supposedly this is a memory that Desmond should have had already but it popped up in Desmond head out of no where...

I think that while the losties were moving through time, the Island was in the present, so when Daniel told Desmond, the memory got created instantly in Desmond's head, get what I mean? I think what happened happened is just preparation for a twist.

The rules don't apply to Desmond, which is why Daniel was able to pass along that message. For everyone else, whatever happens, happens. They're not going to purposely create paradoxes.

[Aaron Veteran]

In the bottom row of figures, middle figure looks like this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khnum

Also the third from the left, the one with the pole/spear seems to be:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thoth

On the far right, there is Horus' eye (Horace Goodspeed?)

One last thing, when we see the statue intact, from the back I think it looks more like Mafdet than Anubis because of the smaller ears. Mafdet was the goddess of justice and execution...

Pic:

http://www.apad.info/images/Mafdet.jpg

Just some random thoughts and observations. :p

[Rappy Veteran]

I love all this Egyptian mythology!

[azz0r_wugg]

Where are Rose and Bernard?

[Beastage]

Where are Rose and Bernard?

That is a good question lol... we'll know eventually.

I'm afraid tho that the theory of them being the 2 skeletons in the cave from season 1 is accurate.

[Pretend]

I love all this Egyptian mythology!

So do I. It's always somewhere in an episode now :D

[Rappy Veteran]

Where are Rose and Bernard?

Hopefully dead :p

Just away from the screen

[Chris-Gonzales]

Some more finale snippets...

- We will be seeing a 3rd Eloise Hawking. This time played by Alice Evans who will between the ages of the young and old Ellie.

Ellie:

Could Hawkings be her? What year were the losties in? 1954?

Last nights was very good. I'm glad ben didn't kill penny.

[+Peewee210 Subscriber¹]

Ellie:

Could Hawkings be her? What year were the losties in? 1954?

Last nights was very good. I'm glad ben didn't kill penny.

I think so, ever since that episode aired it seem pretty obvious that it was her.

From Lostpedia:

Ellie is a shortened version of Eloise.

Daniel told her that she looked familiar.

Ellie is the right age, height and nationality to be Eloise.

She became intrigued when Daniel let it slip that they were time travelers.

Ellie and Charles appear to be close in age on the island in 1954, likewise Eloise Hawking and Charles Widmore appear to be the same age in the present time.

Ellie and Eloise Hawking both have blue eyes. They both wear their hair in somewhat similar styles.

The connection between Eloise Hawking and Charles Widmore could be a continuation of the connection between Ellie and Widmore over time since 1954.

At The Lamp Post station with the swinging pendulum that determines the location of the island there is a photo of the island with the text "September 23, 1954 - U.S. Army - OP 264 - Top Secret - Eyes Only." As Eloise is in charge of the station, it's possible she came into possession of the photograph in 1954 when Ellie was involved in the killing of the US soldiers who brought the hydrogen bomb to the island.

[Rappy Veteran]

It's pretty obvious it's her but I wouldn't mind seeing the middle section of her life :yes:

[Aaron Veteran]

Oooh... read this (skip to the Conflict between Horus and Set if you are impatient). It is like Horace is well, Horus, and Richard Alpert is Set. See then Geb as referenced in the section:

It has also been suggested that the myth may reflect historical events. According to the Shabaka Stone, Geb divided Egypt into two halves, giving Upper Egypt (the desert south) to Set and Lower Egypt (the region of the delta in the north) to Horus, in order to end their feud.

If you go to Geb's page, you see some interesting alternate pronunciations of his name that if you stand on one leg and turn your head thus, could maybe sound like "Jacob"...

Ok, I'm getting obsessed.... :p

I think so, ever since that episode aired it seem pretty obvious that it was her.

From Lostpedia:

Ellie is a shortened version of Eloise.

Daniel told her that she looked familiar.

Ellie is the right age, height and nationality to be Eloise.

She became intrigued when Daniel let it slip that they were time travelers.

Ellie and Charles appear to be close in age on the island in 1954, likewise Eloise Hawking and Charles Widmore appear to be the same age in the present time.

Ellie and Eloise Hawking both have blue eyes. They both wear their hair in somewhat similar styles.

The connection between Eloise Hawking and Charles Widmore could be a continuation of the connection between Ellie and Widmore over time since 1954.

At The Lamp Post station with the swinging pendulum that determines the location of the island there is a photo of the island with the text "September 23, 1954 - U.S. Army - OP 264 - Top Secret - Eyes Only." As Eloise is in charge of the station, it's possible she came into possession of the photograph in 1954 when Ellie was involved in the killing of the US soldiers who brought the hydrogen bomb to the island.

Wait, so Ellie is Daniel's mom? I was thinking she would be Penny's mom - or is she mom to both?

[Rappy Veteran]

Oooh... read this (skip to the Conflict between Horus and Set if you are impatient). It is like Horace is well, Horus, and Richard Alpert is Set. See then Geb as referenced in the section:

If you go to Geb's page, you see some interesting alternate pronunciations of his name that if you stand on one leg and turn your head thus, could maybe sound like "Jacob"...

Ok, I'm getting obsessed.... :p

Wait, so Ellie is Daniel's mom? I was thinking she would be Penny's mom - or is she mom to both?

That's pretty far out there but not completely impossible