Lost - Season 5

[Riz360]

Anyone noticed Juliet's weird blinking? She blinks in quick succession before a dramatic line, it's quite sillly :p

[T1Cybernetic]

That last episode was truly a good one ;) Shame about daniel having to get shot, he was one of my fav characters :(

[Cask1]

Hopefully the incident will put everyone back in their proper timeframes, with maybe the exception of Locke who will stay in the past and lead the others and he will end up being Jacob probably.

Locke is not in the past. He, along with all the other 316's (Ben, Sun, Frank, Ilona, etc.) are still in 2007, it was proven by the abandoned Hydra station (with a picture of Ben with Alex), & the destroyed/abandoned barracks (after the attack of Keamy and co.). But I do think that the incident will bring all the Osixers back to 2007.

[Richard Hammond]

Oh yeah i had forgot, not seen Locke properly in a while, ah well.

[Mathachew Veteran]

Anyone noticed Juliet's weird blinking? She blinks in quick succession before a dramatic line, it's quite sillly :p

Heh, I noticed that too.

[Martyn]

Locke is not in the past. He, along with all the other 316's (Ben, Sun, Frank, Ilona, etc.) are still in 2007, it was proven by the abandoned Hydra station (with a picture of Ben with Alex), & the destroyed/abandoned barracks (after the attack of Keamy and co.). But I do think that the incident will bring all the Osixers back to 2007.

I'd like it if Locke turned out to be Jackob :)

[Nagisan]

And how was Daniel responsible for Ben shooting Desmond? It was Daniel who tried to stop the chain of events that led to Desmond crashing Oceanic 815 which led to Jack disable the jammer which led to Charles Widmore sending the freighter which led to Keamy killing Alex leading Ben to hunt down Penelope. Or was it Daniel's plan of detonating Jughead that set the wheel in motion for these events to occur?

I was thinking it was due to when Daniel was traveling through time, when he knocked on the station door and told Desmond to find his mother. That sparked Desmond in the future to travel to Oxford, then LA, putting Penelope in a place that Ben could easily get to her.

[HilariousNinja]

NO DANIELLL NNOOOOO!!!!

*recalls composure*

I really hope he does somehow maintain to live although its beyond possible, because it was shocking yes, and everything seems to be wrapped up for the major death for the end of the season, but GOD HELP ME I hope Lost kill off anyone, except Daniel. Ever since he becamequite central to the story-line he has become my favourite character.

Otherwise, that was a truly stunning episode, best of the season and the best one since probably the one Desmond kept on going back and forward through time last season. Some theories (like the Dan having a certain father, and 'the variable' as well as many others were cleared up') but also the action e.g the shoot-out and Sawyer getting in deep **** with the Dharma folk.

[John Freeman]

Lost is getting better and better now. This ep was just amazing. Especially the end part.. Daniel was like "BAM" , I was like "NOOOOOOOOOOOO", and then the end came and I was like "NOOOOOOOO" again, and wtf is going to happen now?

[Julius Caro]

Did we learn before how/why Eloise left the island?

And how was Daniel responsible for Ben shooting Desmond? It was Daniel who tried to stop the chain of events that led to Desmond crashing Oceanic 815 which led to Jack disable the jammer which led to Charles Widmore sending the freighter which led to Keamy killing Alex leading Ben to hunt down Penelope. Or was it Daniel's plan of detonating Jughead that set the wheel in motion for these events to occur?

daniel 'modified' demond's memories in one of those timejumps and that prompted desmond to go find eloise. desmond would not have been dere if it wasnt for that

[DomZ]

I thought that was the best episode of the season. I knew Daniel was going to "die" because I accidently read a spoiler, didn't see the shooter being his mum though!

[Rappy Veteran]

I just rewatched the episode and sadly I feel the same :( I will continue to watch but a part of me thinks the ending overall is going to suck big time...but of course time will tell just didn't like last nights at all...right down there in S.O.S level.

Just my 2 cents.

[Mathachew Veteran]

I just rewatched the episode and sadly I feel the same :( I will continue to watch but a part of me thinks the ending overall is going to suck big time...but of course time will tell just didn't like last nights at all...right down there in S.O.S level.

Just my 2 cents.

Man... WHAT?! SCC has screwed you up!

[ATGC]

Ending going to suck? The Variable falling in the same ranks as S.O.S?

What??? You're going crazy d00d.

[Rappy Veteran]

Man... WHAT?! SCC has screwed you up!

As I said its my 2 cents, I just felt last nights episode was really poor...seen it twice now and felt the same way both times.

FYI SCC was good the ending was good but again opinion...we are entitled to it :)

Edited April 30, 2009 by Rappy

[Nicholas-c Veteran]

As I said its my 2 cents, I just felt last nights episode was really poor...seen it twice now and felt the same way both times.

Agree with you there. Paradox riddled.

Paradox Explained.

if Faraday set off Jughead (after finding location from his mother whom had a gun to his head in "Jughead") then he would never of gone to the island meaning he would never of gone back to the past to set jughead off in the first place to prevent him from going to the island.

All the way through he was trying to save Charlotte.

he knows Pierre Chang would evac the island with jughead around, If he evac'd(s) the island Charlotte would of left island and never of been exposed to elctro-magnetic energy that swan location will unleash (maybe?) meaning when she returned to the island (which wouldn't happen because everyone/thing on the island including the swan would of been flattened ...) she wouldn't spaz out and have nose bleeds etc meaning she wouldn't die - Paradox ahoy!

Nit-picks at the episode: when Faraday was talking to naughty Charlotte who was eating chocolate before dinner... (remember she randomly said something about chocolate before she died) he never actually said "You are going to die" like Charlotte said when she was dying. which leads me to believe Faraday will be back?

and... Charlotte said "There was a scary man who lived on the island who no ones knew"

He has been off island the entire 3 years to our knowledge

[mail]

My memory might be failing me but I distinctly remember right from Season1, it was said the plot could be explained with existing science ... I guess that was BS?

Edit: Here is something that was discussed in Neowin IRC. Infinte loop timeline.

Edited May 1, 2009 by mail

[Mathachew Veteran]

Agree with you there. Paradox riddled.

Paradox Explained.

if Faraday set off Jughead (after finding location from his mother whom had a gun to his head in "Jughead") then he would never of gone to the island meaning he would never of gone back to the past to set jughead off in the first place to prevent him from going to the island.

All the way through he was trying to save Charlotte.

he knows Pierre Chang would evac the island with jughead around, If he evac'd(s) the island Charlotte would of left island and never of been exposed to elctro-magnetic energy that swan location will unleash (maybe?) meaning when she returned to the island (which wouldn't happen because everyone/thing on the island including the swan would of been flattened ...) she wouldn't spaz out and have nose bleeds etc meaning she wouldn't die - Paradox ahoy!

Nit-picks at the episode: when Faraday was talking to naughty Charlotte who was eating chocolate before dinner... (remember she randomly said something about chocolate before she died) he never actually said "You are going to die" like Charlotte said when she was dying. which leads me to believe Faraday will be back?

and... Charlotte said "There was a scary man who lived on the island who no ones knew"

He has been off island the entire 3 years to our knowledge

The only way that this is a paradox, for now, is if you believe anything they do isn't what already happened. If you stick with whatever happened, happened, the survivors trying to be a variable in the events of the island are likely the root cause of the chain of events that follow. It's like Ben causing Ben to become what he is by using Sayid in the present, which pushed him over the edge when Sayid was in the past and shot young Ben, leading him to becoming one of the Others (by being taken to the temple). A group of people always left the island, Charlotte mentioned this before she died, and she didn't say anything about a "man who lived on the island who no ones knew".

Daniel, I've been here before. ... I grew up here, on the island. It was with the Dharma Initiative and then I moved away with my mom, just my mom. I never saw my dad again. Then when I got back to England, I would ask my mom about this place, but she would say that it wasn't real, and that I made it up. That's why I became an anthropologist. To find this island again. It's what I've been searching for my whole life. ... Because I remember something now. When I was little, living here, there was this man, crazy man and he really scared me, and he told me that I had to leave the island and never, ever come back. He told me that if I came back, I would die. ... Daniel, I think that man was you!

Next time we saw her was when Daniel was telling her about how his mom could help, she mentioned the chocolate, and she died. But your point about "I would die" is right, Daniel didn't mention it, and I won't go with the fall back assumption of "he probably told her but didn't see it", but it's a minor detail that isn't prevalent to the plot.

Daniel may or may not be back, but going by what I saw in the previews, he's a goner.

[SuperJediMedia]

Daniel CAN'T die, the Island can heal him!

[SuperJediMedia]

I was wondering the same thing.

https://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=766204

[TonyLock]

I don't think Friday is dead. I mean, just cos he got shot, doesn't mean he's dead.

Your thoeries...

Also, remember, if they fix the time line, Kate will end up in prison and so she will do anything to avoid that....

[Nicholas-c Veteran]

I don't think Friday is dead. I mean, just cos he got shot, doesn't mean he's dead.

Your thoeries...

Also, remember, if they fix the time line, Kate will end up in prison and so she will do anything to avoid that....

What do you mean "Fix the time line" if they "Fix the time line" then they would never of traveled back in time to "fix the time line" in the first place ^^^ read paradox post :p

[Hurmoth]

Daniel CAN'T die, the Island can heal him!

Umm, no. He isn't Locke. Faraday is dead. If the writers find a way for him to live, I'll stop watching the show as it will have turned into Heroes.

[TonyLock]

I'd like it if Locke turned out to be Jackob :)

I think Friday might turn out to be either Yackob or even Smokie....

[TonyLock]

what if like Ashes to Ashes, by getting short, Friday is sent back in time... No, not to the 80s or even the 70s but back to -5000 BC. That would explain the Egyption connection. Or he might be one of the original founders of the Hansdon foundation.