UFO hacker is broken man, says family

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Good point - putting something under the most mega extreme super ultra high security is basically waving a flag at hackers.

Whereas placing that design for free energy on standard Windows ME installation is not :p

If I remember correctly, he said a lot of the systems were actually running Windows 98

If they were running ME, he wouldn't have been able to find anything because of all the crashing :p

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Dev Null Zen

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yes i'd be ****ed, would i want the person responsible to be tried as a terrorist? no.
thats the point, he isn't being asked to be let off etc, he's accepting a punishment but not one from the 'ZOMG HE'S A TERRORIST!!!!!' style US

Who has said he is going to be tried as a terrorist? McKinnon, thats it. He's the one creating this whole circus by his BS.

*edit* Oh, and by the way. I hope they do fry his ass. I have a son with Aspergers, and his disgusting attempts to try and suddenly at 42 get diagnosed and use it as a negotiating tool make me want to be sick. He degrades the millions out there with that disorder.

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Dc'1

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You start to feel sorry for him, he did do wrong yes, but what he did HELPS the USA by blocking the way he hacked in so nobody else does. I say, let him free/keep him in Britain!

He didn't help terrorism, drug deals, ANYTHING, he shouldn't need 70 years in America :s

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BoJo

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I smell a CIA conspiracy. I can already see the title of the documentary 30 years from now.

I also would like to see what he dug up. I wonder if they'll get released in discovery (i.e. the evidence given by prosecutors to the defense attorney NOT the channel :laugh:) :p

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BoJo

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well, he should have been out looking for a job...and besides? don't they have UFO's in the UK..or is that just Trolls and Knomes...LOL

besides, I doubt if he will even get close to 70 years. I'm sure Gordon Brown or your Queen will work something out.

I love americans' perception of the Queen. She's a tourist attraction --> she should be in a museum, not in (theoretical) control.

How is laughing about trolls and gnomes funny? They're real. That's all :shiftyninja:

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exotoxic

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If he really found evidence of UFOs and coverups why did he not IMMEDIATLY transfer it and upload it to every torrent and file sharing site in the world?? If i found something that important that i thought the world should know id be posting it all over the internet as soon as i found it.

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NightmarE D

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If he really found evidence of UFOs and coverups why did he not IMMEDIATLY transfer it and upload it to every torrent and file sharing site in the world?? If i found something that important that i thought the world should know id be posting it all over the internet as soon as i found it.

He was using dial-up and I believe torrents weren't even around yet when he was doing this.

Ever downloaded raw NASA images? They can be hundred's of MB's in size.

Another thing. Put yourself in his shoes. You're a hacker, you're looking for evidence that UFO's and aliens are real and you actually find it. If it were me, I'd be more shocked I actually found it and would be looking at everything I could. Saving the stuff would probably be the last thing on my mind because I'd be too shocked most likely.

One other thing that someone else brought up. I've read a lot about the guy and his case and I've never read anything about him being offered a plea deal for 5-10 by the US. The UK busted him and it was like they really didn't care until the US got involved and they've been trying to get him over here since then. Might be something I've missed, but I've never heard about that.

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djesteban

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I think you are missing the point here.. HE HACKED into Government computers.. I don't give a rats a$$ if he was looking for UFO's or a copy of his birth certificate, he hacked into government computers. I mean come on.. how do WE know what he looked at? They also said he deleted some files...

Would you NOT be ****ed off and want to sue some person for hacking into your computer? Especially if he deleted some of your files?

Hey, ho, YOU should be ashamed of your army computer security systems. Personally, I would feel so bad I would hire him to know how he got in. But obviously the great American government are going to treat this guy like he's some kind of crazy demon terrorist and send him in jail for 70 years.

Like, I'm not saying that what he did is wise and just, or even intelligent for that matter. I'm not saying he shouldn't be punish in some way for doing this... one of the way would be to teach the super good security engineers that works for the army how to protect such an important system.

Even more, if I was living in the U.S., I would bring a class action suit against my government for being so poor at protecting such sensible data belonging to my homeland....

my 2 cents

*EDIT* Like I read comments of people who said, hey! he might have deleted some ?ber important data! Here's my answer to you:

1- your a first class fool for believing that

2- so they didn't have backup of this ultra pimp information?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? what?!

3- like someone else said; so they put top classified info... on the Internet? hughh... enough said

Ohhh Emil, I read your comment and you really touched me there... somewhere special; your such a great human being

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primexx

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I smell a CIA conspiracy. I can already see the title of the documentary 30 years from now.

I also would like to see what he dug up. I wonder if they'll get released in discovery (i.e. the evidence given by prosecutors to the defense attorney NOT the channel :laugh:) :p

they'll probably pull the state secret crap again

though i don't really buy the guy's story of having found alien technology either.

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wellofsouls

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Hacking into US government computers is not my idea of a good thing to do :|

well, those who are responsible for the security of the US government computers should be punished more severely than the hacker.

And yea if there's really something important he has gained access to, trying to punish him severely is just more incentive for him to leak those stuff to the "enemies".

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wellofsouls

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I don't feel sorry for the guy, he did something illegal and now has to face the consequences.

well, I don't think the point is whether the guy did something wrong, but whether the 70 years punishment as the consequences is right.

I'm sure some petty thief who has stolen your notebook will not face 70 years in jail as the consequences, so is it right for this UFO hacker to face such consequences?

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Reacon

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Hmm, this is interesting. They most definitely know exactly what he has seen and what he "deleted", but why are they getting so hyped up about it... Makes me wonder exactly what's going on with the gov't these days, Area 51 still remains unseen.

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bryonhowley

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It does not matter how easy or hard it was to break in. He broke into a computer system that he was not suppose to be in he deserves what ever he gets period. Breaking into a home with a cheap lock is still a crime same with computers.

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wellofsouls

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my laptop != US government computers.

of course, but the question remains, does hacking into US government computers warrants someone getting extradited to US and jailed for 70 years? stealing your laptop won't, that's for sure, so what about hacking US government computers?

Especially in this case is that the best for US interest? If he really stolen something important, isn't harsher punishment more incentive for him to leak it in this case? If he didn't steal anything important, then why this harsh punishment?

It does not matter how easy or hard it was to break in. He broke into a computer system that he was not suppose to be in he deserves what ever he gets period. Breaking into a home with a cheap lock is still a crime same with computers.

Yea, then in this case, it does matter whether he really stole something important or not. Someone breaking into a home to steal $10 is still a crime, but won't be punished as severely as someone breaking into a home to steal a million dollars.

And in this case, since it's government security, those who produced the "cheapo lock" should also be punished. So those who are responsible for the security of the US government computers should be punished.

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WAR-DOG

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He deleted data, they kept of him, because the U.S. goverment keeps all data of everyone on the internet!!!

In the end all hackers of the world will unite and bring down america, after 10 years of panic and terror, they will make a movie about that.

We will buy t-shirts with "Save Gary McKinnon" like we did those back in the 90's "Save Kevin Mitnick"

yada... yada... yada... I think the U.S. is turning into a military country, a dictatorship like China, just that the american people don't know that, they don't see it. They don't see it that they are being watched by the govermend, controled and brainwashed. You have to stand ouside it to see it.

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Denis W. Veteran

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While I agree he needs to be punished somewhat for what he did, this old thread comes to mind (particularly this post) when he insists on not being extradited to the States for punishment.

If that's what happens when you get busted for piracy, imagine what happens in this case. :blink:

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