90 Minutes to Install Windows 98?

[roadgeek9]

I just tried to install Windows 98SE on a Virtual Machine in Virtual Box, but for some reason, it says it will take 90 minutes...

I have a 1.73 GHz CPU and have dedicated 128 MB to the VM. I am running Vista Business SP2 and am installing from a CD.

Also, I just got a GPF saying, "SUWIN has caused a GPF in module SYSTEM.DRV at 0001:02D2."

[Skulltrail-old]

Do you mean Vista Business SP1? You got me existed for a second; can't wait 'till SP2.

You also have to make sure your computer is completely compatible with Windows 98. Usually computers that were pre-installed with Windows Vista have Vista-based drivers (as in not for other OS). But that is only the case when you buy your computer from companies like HP, Gateway and Dell.

Have you tried installing XP? If it doesn't work on XP, I greatly doubt it will work on 98.

[roadgeek9]

Do you mean Vista Business SP1? You got me existed for a second; can't wait 'till SP2.

You also have to make sure your computer is completely compatible with Windows 98. Usually computers that were pre-installed with Windows Vista have Vista-based drivers (as in not for other OS). But that is only the case when you buy your computer from companies like HP, Gateway and Dell.

Have you tried installing XP? If it doesn't work on XP, I greatly doubt it will work on 98.

My computer came with XP, it is 3 years old. It has a 32-bit CPU, so I'd assume that it would work.

I am not trying to install 98 DIRECTLY on the machine, I am trying to install it in a Virtual Machine.

[Japlabot]

90 minutes is the hardcoded amount that it estimates but really it will only take a few minutes now days.

If it is slow installing in your Virtual Machine, try another Virtual Machine package eg: MS Virtual PC, Virtual Box, VMware

[+Gary7 Subscriber²]

My computer came with XP, it is 3 years old. It has a 32-bit CPU, so I'd assume that it would work.

I am not trying to install 98 DIRECTLY on the machine, I am trying to install it in a Virtual Machine.

Why do you want to install Win98??

[roadgeek9]

If it is slow installing in your Virtual Machine, try another Virtual Machine package eg: MS Virtual PC, Virtual Box, VMware

I am using Virtual Box.

Why do you want to install Win98??

Well, what do you want me to do?

[+Gary7 Subscriber²]

I am using Virtual Box.

Well, what do you want me to do?

I would use the CD as a coaster. It is not even supported any more. Try Win 3.1 :D

[kaffra]

sorry im not familiar with virtual box, but on its page it doesnt say for certain if win98 works.

anyway perhaps the second link might be useful.

another thing you could check is if the cd is working, no scratches etc

http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Guest_OSes

http://shaileshdas.blogspot.com/2007/11/in...irtual-box.html

[roadgeek9]

I would use the CD as a coaster. It is not even supported any more. Try Win 3.1 :D

But come on!

:p

I tried out 3.1, but it crashed every time I moved the mouse to a place it didn't agree with. :cry:

[Anubis187]

If i'm not mistaken you can run old 98 apps on winxp, you have to right click and check compatibility.

[perochan]

Why do you want to install Win98??

same question popped into my mind...

WHY do you want to install Win98??? (must be bored arent you...)

[soldier1st]

why use win9x these days?move on to xp and more than likely your older games will work fine under XP.

[AnJellyCue]

you know what. I would install 98 in a Virtual PC.. why? becouse I can.. I loved WFW when it was around and Windows 95 too - Vintage Computing is great. as to the OP, Id suggest using Microsoft Virtual PC. Last time I checked It was free to get for some reason, and you should be fine. and make sure the CD isnt scratched.. :)

Have Fun !!!!!

-- Angelique

[Suren]

I just tried to install Windows 98SE on a Virtual Machine in Virtual Box, but for some reason, it says it will take 90 minutes...

I have a 1.73 GHz CPU and have dedicated 128 MB to the VM. I am running Vista Business SP2 and am installing from a CD.

Also, I just got a GPF saying, "SUWIN has caused a GPF in module SYSTEM.DRV at 0001:02D2."

That's normal it takes on average 1.5 to 2 hours to install Windows 98.

Back in the day it used to drive me nuts, since I had to reinstall 3-5 times a week sometimes. Then XP came and what huge improvement it was, it only took 1 hour at most to install. Now Vista takes only 30 minutes to install on my system.

And still there are people who think Vista is terrible!

[blaszta]

Oh the old good days...

I remember that my PC (I think it's an AMD K5) has major hardware problem, so I need to reinstall Windows every time I boot it up.. So once it start, I never turned it off until the next day...

Imagine, installing Windows 98 on the same machine every day.. :-D

PS: and I think it took less than one hour to install (not including the other software installation)

[roadgeek9]

you know what. I would install 98 in a Virtual PC.. why? becouse I can.. I loved WFW when it was around and Windows 95 too - Vintage Computing is great. as to the OP, Id suggest using Microsoft Virtual PC. Last time I checked It was free to get for some reason, and you should be fine. and make sure the CD isnt scratched.. :)

I myself have some weird obsession with older Windows versions. I would use Virtual PC, but I have VirtualBox because I also like to play around with Linux.

[Snakehn]

ahh the good old win98, lots of memories :cry:

i remember the last time i tried to install in a few years back on a brand new build system, it took only 14 mins ;) yeah it was a powerful system at that time.

[roadgeek9]

i remember the last time i tried to install in a few years back on a brand new build system, it took only 14 mins ;) yeah it was a powerful system at that time.

What kind of system was it?

[Lee G. Veteran]

As said before, the 90 minute estimate is correct. It takes quite a while to install Windows 98, no matter what specs the PC has. Throughout the installation the computer/virtual machine has to reboot two or three times too.

Also, it's worth pointing out that in VirtualBox there are no graphics drivers provided for Windows 98. There is some third-party driver you can download from somewhere, but I'm not sure if it'll work. Just be prepared that you may have to run it with low graphics settings.

[Snakehn]

What kind of system was it?

it was an AMD Duron i believe, don't remember if it was 1.2 or 1.4Ghz with 4Mb cache, i think i was trying to install windows 2000 with an upgrade disc, so had to install 98 first.

[Malechai1]

yea theres definately something going on there. just a few weeks ago, i installed Win98SE in MS Virtual PC and it was done very fast. I don't want to give any specific number because I dont remember exactly but it was no where near 90 minutes. I want to say it wasnt even as long as 10..

[markwolfe Veteran]

Just curious, but how long did it take to get Win98 fully installed?

[CPressland]

Ok, so I just attempted to Install 98SE on my Core2Quad Q9450 /w 8GB of RAM in a Virtual Machine with 512MB of RAM, 8GB VDrive and I used VirtualBox as the VM

Total install time: 97 minutes

Stability after install: BAD

BootTime, about 60-90 seconds

Notes: No Networking/Internet Access ;(

Then I installed Windows XP into a virtual machine with 10GB VDrive and 2048MB of RAM

Total install time: 4 minutes 22 seconds

Stability after install: Brilliant, until I opened IE6 :D

BootTime: 10 seconds, give or take a few

Notes: OOBE FTW

I wonder why 98 SE takes SOOO long to install.

Also, anyone have any idea how to fix the networking issue?

[roadgeek9]

Then I installed Windows XP into a virtual machine with 10GB VDrive and 2048MB of RAM

Total install time: 4 minutes 22 seconds

Stability after install: Brilliant, until I opened IE6 :D

BootTime: 10 seconds, give or take a few

Notes: OOBE FTW

Only 4 minutes? It took me 45 minutes to reinstall XP on my laptop, then I reformatted and did Vista, took about 25 minutes.

Specs: Pentium M 1.73 GHz, 1.5 GB memory

Just curious, but how long did it take to get Win98 fully installed?

Didn't bother, I was worried that my laptop would force itself to shut down because it was overheating so badly.

[CPressland]

Only 4 minutes? It took me 45 minutes to reinstall XP on my laptop, then I reformatted and did Vista, took about 25 minutes.

Specs: Pentium M 1.73 GHz, 1.5 GB memory

Didn't bother, I was worried that my laptop would force itself to shut down because it was overheating so badly.

It was from a ISO image I built from my XP Disc. So it's more like RAID0 to RAID0 speed then CD to HDD Speed :D

You laptop WONT overheat dude, you could run every component in it at 100% for a year without it overheating. My MacBook runs at 90c when i'm using virtual machines or transcoding a movie, it's fine ;)