Boeing 787 Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 Intel Corp. expects its forthcoming Intel Core i7 processors to be much more powerful compared to existing central processing units, according to documents reportedly seen by the media. If the information turns to be precise enough, then Intel has all chances to keep processor performance crown even after smaller rival Advanced Micro Devices launches its new chips.Documents from Intel Corp. allegedly seen by Expreview web-site reportedly mention that Intel Core i7 processor delivers 52% speed improvement in 3D games, 41% higher performance in media encoding and editing applications as well as 38% greater 3D rendering speed when compared to Intel Core 2 Extreme QX9770. Intel Core i7 965 is a premium class Nehalem-micro-architecture microprocessor for desktops that operates at 3.20GHz. The Core 2 Extreme QX9770 is Intel's top-of-the-range CPU at the moment at that also works at 3.20GHz. If the information regarding performance improvements is correct, then it means that the new micro-architecture in its first implementation provides roughly 52% more performance at the same clock-speed compared to currently used Core 2 micro-architecture. Advanced Micro Devices recently said that its forthcoming quad-core processors powered by improved K10 micro-architecture will be roughly 35% more powerful than its existing chips at the same clock-speed. Intel did not comment on the news-story. Source: http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/2...ore_2_Quad.html Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/679420-intel-core-i7-to-be-up-to-52-faster-compared-to-core-2-quad/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan000 Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 I'm saving already! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/679420-intel-core-i7-to-be-up-to-52-faster-compared-to-core-2-quad/#findComment-589931890 Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren89 Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 thanks for sharing with us. but its going to be hell expensive. :s Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/679420-intel-core-i7-to-be-up-to-52-faster-compared-to-core-2-quad/#findComment-589931928 Share on other sites More sharing options...
obiwong Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 Documents from Intel Corp. allegedly seen by Expreview web-site reportedly mention that Intel Core i7 processor delivers 52% speed improvement in 3D games i'll believe it when i see it Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/679420-intel-core-i7-to-be-up-to-52-faster-compared-to-core-2-quad/#findComment-589931946 Share on other sites More sharing options...
clx Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 Sounds interesting, but until there is independent verification on these figures i remain unconvinced... but interested Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/679420-intel-core-i7-to-be-up-to-52-faster-compared-to-core-2-quad/#findComment-589931958 Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Cuban Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 theres no such thing, it requires comparison, if its in Vid Encoding, i might buy that, but games i doubt any improvement, cache size is tiny bah. BUT, im still waiting to buy new computer because of this, gotta give em the benefit of the doubt, right? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/679420-intel-core-i7-to-be-up-to-52-faster-compared-to-core-2-quad/#findComment-589931962 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argi Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 Definately true that we'll have to see it ourselves first. I'm hoping that there'll be differnet price points, rather than a range they place above the Core 2 Quads. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/679420-intel-core-i7-to-be-up-to-52-faster-compared-to-core-2-quad/#findComment-589931964 Share on other sites More sharing options...
torrentthief Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 yawn, we need some benchmarks from actual tests, all companies exagerate the performance and actual tests always show the exagerations. I wanna see how much faster they are at encoding x264. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/679420-intel-core-i7-to-be-up-to-52-faster-compared-to-core-2-quad/#findComment-589931972 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TruckWEB Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 i'll believe it when i see it Same here. What games did they use? What setting? With what kind of GPU setup? Those are just numbers with no meaning. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/679420-intel-core-i7-to-be-up-to-52-faster-compared-to-core-2-quad/#findComment-589931978 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sundayx Veteran Posted October 8, 2008 Veteran Share Posted October 8, 2008 ^The meaning is, lol@amd. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/679420-intel-core-i7-to-be-up-to-52-faster-compared-to-core-2-quad/#findComment-589931992 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TruckWEB Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 ^The meaning is, lol@amd. Because you saw the meaningless numbers for the next AMD CPU? We should wait for real benchmark of Core i7 and the next AMD CPU before LOL'ing. My guess is that AMD will be slower, but by how much? And if it cost less, should be a good deal for casual gamers. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/679420-intel-core-i7-to-be-up-to-52-faster-compared-to-core-2-quad/#findComment-589932012 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Gil Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 theres no such thing, it requires comparison, if its in Vid Encoding, i might buy that, but games i doubt any improvement, cache size is tiny bah. 9MB ain't enough for you? :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/679420-intel-core-i7-to-be-up-to-52-faster-compared-to-core-2-quad/#findComment-589932030 Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Cuban Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 9MB ain't enough for you? :p what? 9MB? aren't the cores got like 256KB ea in L3? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/679420-intel-core-i7-to-be-up-to-52-faster-compared-to-core-2-quad/#findComment-589932054 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lalalawawawa Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 yawn, we need some benchmarks from actual tests, all companies exagerate the performance and actual tests always show the exagerations.I wanna see how much faster they are at encoding x264. Well that is not always the case. They could be correct theoretically but in practice many times its a different story. It also depends on the operating system and the applications. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/679420-intel-core-i7-to-be-up-to-52-faster-compared-to-core-2-quad/#findComment-589932060 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Teej Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 I expect it to be at the very least 52% faster considering the damn price of the thing. Hell, I expect it to make me tea and toast in the morning and fetch me my newspaper. Perhaps even do the dishes when it's overclocked. $1000. $1000. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/679420-intel-core-i7-to-be-up-to-52-faster-compared-to-core-2-quad/#findComment-589932074 Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Cuban Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 thats like the total cost of my new planned computer xD (without screen and prep's though, maybe little more, 1200$, but still 1000 flooding dollars) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/679420-intel-core-i7-to-be-up-to-52-faster-compared-to-core-2-quad/#findComment-589932094 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Gil Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 what? 9MB? aren't the cores got like 256KB ea in L3? It's 256KB of level 2 cache per core + 8MB of shared level 3 cache. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/679420-intel-core-i7-to-be-up-to-52-faster-compared-to-core-2-quad/#findComment-589932110 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViZioN Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 Eek $1000, guess I'll be waiting for a bit before doing a new system build :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/679420-intel-core-i7-to-be-up-to-52-faster-compared-to-core-2-quad/#findComment-589932152 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digitalx Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 hopefully be out before christmas :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/679420-intel-core-i7-to-be-up-to-52-faster-compared-to-core-2-quad/#findComment-589932194 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raa Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 I'll be grabbing one of these the moment they land! My X6800 is starting to get a bit too much dust on it, hehehe! (It cost $1000 [RRP] too, so stop whining :p) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/679420-intel-core-i7-to-be-up-to-52-faster-compared-to-core-2-quad/#findComment-589932230 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellofsouls Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 Documents from Intel Corp. allegedly seen by Expreview web-site reportedly mention that Intel Core i7 processor delivers 52% speed improvement in 3D games LOL, with that line, it lost all credibility for me. Even cavemen should know by now that 3D games depend most on graphics card rather than CPU :laugh: or maybe it means 3D games in software rendering mode? bah. it's useless figures either way, guess it can play Crysis at 640x480 at 3 fps instead of 2fps in C2Q :D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/679420-intel-core-i7-to-be-up-to-52-faster-compared-to-core-2-quad/#findComment-589932420 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayepecks Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 Funny, all the previews I've seen says it's not a big improvement for gaming, yet this article is claiming a 52% improvement? I smell something fishy :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/679420-intel-core-i7-to-be-up-to-52-faster-compared-to-core-2-quad/#findComment-589932456 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smigit Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 Documents from Intel Corp. allegedly seen by Expreview web-site reportedly mention that Intel Core i7 processor delivers 52% speed improvement in 3D gamesWhen I see something like that I interpret it as 52% CPU processing power, not as a 52% overall performance of FPS. Obviously the overall game won't be boosted by 52%, that goes without saying given most are GPU not CPU dependent. I personally think some people are misinterpreting that 52% figure as meaning FPS.Even 52 is likely a tall order in relation to pure CPU grunt, but I would expect a fairly considerable improvement. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/679420-intel-core-i7-to-be-up-to-52-faster-compared-to-core-2-quad/#findComment-589932576 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason S. Global Moderator Posted October 8, 2008 Global Moderator Share Posted October 8, 2008 do you all forget that this same thing happened when intel was comparing the Core 2 to the Pentium 4? no one believed that Core 2 was SO much faster, but it was true. i firmly believe that i7 will be 45% faster on average. initial benchmarks have shown incredible results. the 965 may be $999, but the other 2 they are releasing will be $5xx and $28x at launch. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/679420-intel-core-i7-to-be-up-to-52-faster-compared-to-core-2-quad/#findComment-589932608 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellofsouls Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 When I see something like that I interpret it as 52% CPU processing power, not as a 52% overall performance of FPS. Obviously the overall game won't be boosted by 52%, that goes without saying given most are GPU not CPU dependent. I personally think some people are misinterpreting that 52% figure as meaning FPS.Even 52 is likely a tall order in relation to pure CPU grunt, but I would expect a fairly considerable improvement. So how do you interpret the "52% increase in CPU processing power in 3D gaming", considering it's a constantly shifting balance between the CPU and GPU under different environments, resolutions, and effects settings, for different games and game levels? It doesn't make any sense at all in that case :D It actually makes much more sense if it means playing 3D games in software rendering mode, like those Red Mars CPU benchmarks in 3DMark 06 :laugh: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/679420-intel-core-i7-to-be-up-to-52-faster-compared-to-core-2-quad/#findComment-589932618 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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