Bunny Hopping in FPS games. Is it oKAY?

[revvo]

As someone who's been playing Quake since quake 2 (not much quake 1), and then Unreal Tournament, I'm afraid that bunny hopping is part of me :rofl: Obviously in those games bunny hopping is part of the style so you need to know how to move quickly to play well. In games however like CS, COD4 and possibly other realism-based games, some server admins don't allow bunny hopping on their servers.

So, what do you think about servers that don't allow bunny hopping? I've joined several COD4 servers and were banned for bunny hopping. WHenever I get a warning, I just left because I though it was lame that the server limits my movements. Now that's fine, it's their rules I have no beef with that, but why is it a rule?

What do you guys think? Does it makes sense? Does it makes gameplay better to control how players move? Have you faced these servers? I think it makes no sense because it limits one's skills to play better just for the sake of having everyone play the same way more or less. My take here is yes, it should be allowed in any FPS game. It's not like you're hacking or exploiting a flaw.

What's your take on this.

[Andrew Lyle Global Moderator]

My team cuts people up for jumping in COD5. All I hear from them after the round is "this isn't halo! Stop jumping!" Minus a few curse words. I do whatever it takes to kill an enemy, and whatever it takes to survive. I really love the jumping out of a window / building while shooting.. I am famous for that!

This is a true story on COD4. We had a friend join our room (we had 9 already) and he messaged one of our guys to tell us not to shoot him (this was on crossfire). and he came out in the middle of the stage jumping up and down like a rabbit, not actually firing at us, and none of us shot at him either. So the team on his side was saying "how are you not getting killed", and he said "it's a glitch, if you jump up and down, they can't kill you". So 2 of there guys start doing the same thing, and we just picked them all off LOL

[PricklyPoo]

Hehe, well I'm used to unreal tournament 2004, and bunny hopping is the first sign of a noob. :p

But back in the first ut and especially quake, hopping was all you could really do...In cod4 I don't really hop since it's just such a slow paced game, no point unless you just wanna look funny.

[TheKindred]

It makes perfect sense when playing a realism based game. People play these games because they want a bit of realism. It does not limit skill, pressing the jump button like it is going out of style is not a skill.

If someone wants to play a realism based game but the developers did not prevent jumping like a rabbit in heat then of course they are going to find ways to limit it on the servers they use. It is a realism based game and I will tell you that there is no way in hell you would ever survive a firefight if went into it trying to hop all over the place. First off unless you are super man you will never have the stamina to jump around like that with all your kit on and two with all the extra weight jumping around like that increases your odds of a non-combat personal injury especially to the ankles and knees. Secondly to survive in combat your objective is to make your self the smallest target possible, the smaller the target the harder to hit. Combat has realistic ammunition limitations as well. Ammunition does not just respawn and not all firefights will last mere minutes. Conservation of ammunition is important so jumping through the air with the trigger squeezed will do nothing more than waste ammo, there will be no accuracy, and get you killed.

I am personally preferential to realistic combat games, but I tend to stick the real of the realism games. Ghost Recon series. Especially Advanced Warfighter 2.

[Ash]

Hoppers never really bothered me, and I never really bothered with it myself. They aren't overly hard to hit, when they are jumping, you know they go up, then they go down, it's a given, so a rail gun/sniper rifle or rocket launcher is useful.

I am a strafer, and it's harder to hit strafers, you don't know what direction they will go at any point. Jumping is limited, strafing... less limited.

[Eat68]

I don't really see anything wrong with it.

It's a game and I like to juke out my opponents at close range.

Then I laugh. Repeat.

[DigitalE]

It doesn't bother me, but I actually don't see much of it in Call of Duty 4.

Halo, however, is a different story...

[Nagisan]

It depends on the usage........in games where bunny hopping causes you to move faster than normal, it is unfair as it can be difficult to do, and gives a major advantage to those who can do it. On the same token, if someone is skilled enough to get that advantage, maybe they deserve it (but at the same time they are usually better than most players anyway, so bunny hopping just takes it to even more of an extreme).

Games like BF2 where its just a matter of jumping out of the way and what not, I think its perfectly fine. I was actually kicked out of a server because I jumped behind a corner when I started getting shot at......it was retarded. Yes it can be annoying (in BF2) when someone jumps/hits prone, but I can do the same thing without having to learn and practice how to do it, so its pretty even anyway. Same goes for jumping around corners.

So, in my opinion, if its a hard skill to learn and gives a major advantage, I personally dont like it and dont think its ok because many of the people will never learn how to properly use it, and will always be at a disadvantage vs those who can do it, but when its something simple that anyone can do, I'm perfectly find with it.

[Pupik]

In COD4 it just slows you down and it doesn't bother me in CS, so it's fine by me. Let them hop.

[Senseotech]

When was the last time you saw someone in an actual gun-fight (war, criminal activity, etc) jumping around like a jack-russell terrier??? To me, it doesn't work in real life, it barely works in games, and quite frankly its a cheap thing to do.

[revvo]

Hehe, well I'm used to unreal tournament 2004, and bunny hopping is the first sign of a noob. :p

But back in the first ut and especially quake, hopping was all you could really do...In cod4 I don't really hop since it's just such a slow paced game, no point unless you just wanna look funny.

You can barely strafe jump or bunny hop in these games, and all type of jumping is not allowed by some servers because those admins somehow think that it's better this way :rofl:

When was the last time you saw someone in an actual gun-fight (war, criminal activity, etc) jumping around like a jack-russell terrier??? To me, it doesn't work in real life, it barely works in games, and quite frankly its a cheap thing to do.

You serious? comparing what you can do in a game with real life? Why is it cheap. That's what I want to know. Half of the people here agree that it doesn't help, and makes you look silly, and some of you say it's "not right". Is it purely a realism thing? Or gameplay-wise it affects that much that those rules makes things better?

In COD1/2 what worked great was jump + prone but that eventually turned out as being an exploit I think, so it got "fixed" in some patch, but we kept doing it :D

[Senseotech]

For games where realism is expected, such as CoD series, AA, anything with Tom Clancy in the name, yes I am comparing to real life. Jumping in these games would get you killed in the same real-life situation, whereas if I was in a free-for-all deathmatch tourney with horribly dressed combatants and mine-shooting guns (anything Quake or Unreal) then I might be inclined to jump for *^%#s and giggles.

[Richard Hammond]

What you are describing isnt a bunny hop, a bunny hop is exploiting the way the physics are in a game to jump and move faster than you would otherwise not be able to do which requires skill, what you are talking about is just spamming jump to make yourself harder to hit, its not a skill and its pathetic. Theres always 1 idiot in a server jumping around like he has a spring up his ass ruining the game for everyone else. People get annoyed because it requires no skill to do anyone can just press jump constantly thats the only reason its not allowed on many servers, just play the game like a normal person.

[ThisSiteHasLostItsCharm]

don't notice it much in bf2, guess the players are more mature, but in 2142 i'd say a good player % of every server do it, it's annoying and you look like a fool. Why can't players just use the strafe keys like the rest of us? It's much harder to hit strafing targets, than a hopper. I only use jump when i need to leap over an object for cover or jump off something to escape.

while we are on the subject of bunny hopping, you should include camping and players who spam certain weapons, they pee me off too. So many n00b players out there who claim to be "pros" or "elite" makes you want to slap them for being such douche bags.

[Minifig]

When was the last time you saw someone in an actual gun-fight (war, criminal activity, etc) jumping around like a jack-russell terrier??? To me, it doesn't work in real life, it barely works in games, and quite frankly its a cheap thing to do.

^

Nuff said.

[Argote]

[Mike]

don't notice it much in bf2, guess the players are more mature, but in 2142 i'd say a good player % of every server do it, it's annoying and you look like a fool. Why can't players just use the strafe keys like the rest of us? It's much harder to hit strafing targets, than a hopper. I only use jump when i need to leap over an object for cover or jump off something to escape.

while we are on the subject of bunny hopping, you should include camping and players who spam certain weapons, they pee me off too. So many n00b players out there who claim to be "pros" or "elite" makes you want to slap them for being such douche bags.

in bf2 you lose sprint "time" when jumping and it stops you jumping from what i remember so everyone stopped it. as others have said, hopping about looks stupid and makes you look lame. There are people i play with in tf2 that do it constantly, most of them are demomen so i just stop playing with them.

[Brodel]

It annoys me in BF2. I like BF2 because it's more a simulation of present day technology/war, so when someone goes bouncing around your screen like tigger it's pretty annoying. Sure one or two jumps are fine but not when it's constant.

[Ji@nBing]

It's ok if you want to look like a dick hole.

[Dev Null Zen]

What you are describing isnt a bunny hop, a bunny hop is exploiting the way the physics are in a game to jump and move faster than you would otherwise not be able to do which requires skill, what you are talking about is just spamming jump to make yourself harder to hit, its not a skill and its pathetic. Theres always 1 idiot in a server jumping around like he has a spring up his ass ruining the game for everyone else. People get annoyed because it requires no skill to do anyone can just press jump constantly thats the only reason its not allowed on many servers, just play the game like a normal person.

QFT. Kinda funny that people are talking so much about it and don't even know what it really is. And then you have dolphining in CoD4 which drives a lot of people nuts, because it manipulates the hitboxes when your in midair. But if you think the no jumping rules are annoying, watch out playing CoD4 on the comp. The servers I play on, you can't even run! Realism mods FTW.

[Bazenga]

Hahahahhahahahaha. I laughed my ass off!!

[DDStriker]

seems kind of silly getting upset over people jumping around it is after all just a game

i sometimes hit the jump button when i'm frustrated at how slow the character is moving just to get the feeling their moving quicker ^_^

[undu]

It still don't know why do so many people complain about it. If you don't like people jumping in an fps game, go play a game where no jumping is allowed.

It's like cod 4 perks, they're in the game for a reason, banning people just because they don't play as you expect it's just childish. It's not even an exploit or anything like that.

[Mike]

It still don't know why do so many people complain about it. If you don't like people jumping in an fps game, go play a game where no jumping is allowed.

It's like cod 4 perks, they're in the game for a reason, banning people just because they don't play as you expect it's just childish. It's not even an exploit or anything like that.

its more of a physics exploit, you cant jump repeatedly in real life so games that aim to be realistic shouldnt allow it either, that is why people who play quake / UT / etc don't complain as much. People also complain because it is usually a tactic used by kids or general idiots that think it makes them better

[ThePistols]

Hate bunnyhopping in games. That's why I loved Ghost Recon and Rainbow 6 so much.