Groovedude Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 My opinion exactly. :laugh:Hopping is a crime, especially in FPS games. It's not only impossible to kill someone with Jordan sneakers, but it is also unrealistic. I'd like to see a soldier in Iraq do that... he/she would be dead in a fraction of a second. haha thats going to be a new training module soon i reckon.. The master technique of BUNNY HOPPING! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/700244-bunny-hopping-in-fps-games-is-it-okay/page/3/#findComment-590171952 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinky Newb Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 I dont mind bunny hopping. I think its easier to kill a hopping target then strafing. A few others have posted this and it also annoys me like in BF2, you jump then prone right away. It was termed "Dolphin Diving". Really really cheap in BF2 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/700244-bunny-hopping-in-fps-games-is-it-okay/page/3/#findComment-590171972 Share on other sites More sharing options...
betasp Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 Depends on the game.... Quake, UT, I don't have a problem with it. COD4, Battlefield, I hate it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/700244-bunny-hopping-in-fps-games-is-it-okay/page/3/#findComment-590171974 Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussiefloyd_fan Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 i alwasy thought camping was bas.. in quake 3 arena on the one where its a floating battlefield with the bouncers i would bounce to the remote station and camp over the rocket gun and zoom in and keep shooting people where thy spawn at in the main game field............ that was only against bots though ive never been to play against real people Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/700244-bunny-hopping-in-fps-games-is-it-okay/page/3/#findComment-590171990 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groovedude Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 campings no big deal.. some will get you at the end of the day LMAO.. cod shows you where you been shot from !! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/700244-bunny-hopping-in-fps-games-is-it-okay/page/3/#findComment-590172010 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digitalx Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 the worst game it happens in is BF2 but in reality i haven't had much of a problem with it anyway i just think in future they need to work on the physics of jumping better.... like bf2 jumping half a story high nearly enough to clean jump from floor onto roof of a building is pretty bs. also when bullets do realistic damage bunny hopping isn't an issue since 1 hit damages and second should kill or 1 if in the head. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/700244-bunny-hopping-in-fps-games-is-it-okay/page/3/#findComment-590172164 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green_Eye Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 the worst game it happens in is BF2 but in reality i haven't had much of a problem with it anyway i just think in future they need to work on the physics of jumping better.... like bf2 jumping half a story high nearly enough to clean jump from floor onto roof of a building is pretty bs.also when bullets do realistic damage bunny hopping isn't an issue since 1 hit damages and second should kill or 1 if in the head. I remember it was high but not that high :p And yeah nothing wrong with camping! It really is a legitimate strategy. If you cant take a camper down on your second go then you are really not as good as you would like to think you are :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/700244-bunny-hopping-in-fps-games-is-it-okay/page/3/#findComment-590172180 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corris Veteran Posted November 24, 2008 Veteran Share Posted November 24, 2008 I don't like it, but it depends on the game. I have only really come across it when I use to play BF2, which was highly annoying to see people jumping around like there were springs attached to their legs, though at least in a later patch they stopped people from shooting while jumping, which made it slightly less annoying, but then people started jumping and immediately going prone. Though I think it is fine in games like unreal. But other than those two I have rarely seen it in any games, I personally would prefer games going for more realism to just not have jumping in them at all. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/700244-bunny-hopping-in-fps-games-is-it-okay/page/3/#findComment-590172214 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emn1ty Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 (edited) When it comes to any kind of game, regardless of genre, that involves more than just you playing it I tend to enjoy playing in a more fair and fun way than other;s. I have this motto for playing games, "If it ruins the enjoyment of anyone in the game, don't do it." Now I am not talking merely winning and ****ing off the other player, but in general anything that breaks the normal game experience or pace of the gameplay. This includes camping, spawn killing, weapon whoring, glitching, trash-talking, etc. I don't know about anyone else here, but I play for the experience and challenge, not the title of winner at the end of whatever match, round or duel. THe point of games is to have fun, and I can guarantee that winning is not the only way to have fun. Now, these bunny hoppers, I have seen them and must admit they are some of the more annoying people. It is similar to the speed glitch in Chromehounds or weapon slides in Gears of War. The player can move abnormally fast or get to objects with less hindrances as a result, changing the pace as well as the handicap in favor of those who do it. It isn't fun, it isn't fair, it's just stupid. I don't see how people can really feel accomplished when they know they used unfair or unpleasant means to claim bragging rights. Even many generals and commanders in the military have at least some moral pride to keep up. Most of them don't like being complete ######. This is why things such as the Geneva Convention were held. Like I said, just because you find it annoying doesn't mean you have to blame the players, blame the developers for making such things possible. It's easy to blame cheating on the developer when you have never once developed anything remotely close to game content yourself. Anyone who has worked on some form of software knows that there are unforeseen glitches that not even alpha, beta or pre-release testing catches. By the way, any game wanting to be "realist" wouldn't let that happens, CoD are arcade-like game, tbh As I said above, it isn't about not letting them, but more or less just not catching them. Think of the testing as a series of nets in a water filter. Each one is setup so that the next will catch things the last didn't by being ever-finer holes in the material (aka, more people in each test phase). But even then, to get something perfectly clean you need to do this hundreds of times. That isn't cost effective, so developers usually do it much less than required to catch every little bug in the game and get the game out before Duke Nukem Forever releases. Don't blame people while remaining ignorant. It is you, the gamer, who decides whether or not he/she will exploit game glitches. Edited November 24, 2008 by Emn1ty Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/700244-bunny-hopping-in-fps-games-is-it-okay/page/3/#findComment-590172740 Share on other sites More sharing options...
revvo Posted November 24, 2008 Author Share Posted November 24, 2008 Hopping is a crime, especially in FPS games. It's not only impossible to kill someone with Jordan sneakers, but it is also unrealistic. I'd like to see a soldier in Iraq do that... he/she would be dead in a fraction of a second. You want realism, go to Iraq :p I don't know about anyone else here, but I play for the experience and challenge, not the title of winner at the end of whatever match, round or duel. THe point of games is to have fun, and I can guarantee that winning is not the only way to have fun. It's not the only way, but it's what pushes you to play which leads to "fun". To everyone who always bring back realism into this conversation: Is war fair? Well, you want to bring realism into gameplay and prevent us from "exploiting" what we can't do in real life, but that itself represents what war is: unfair. I can guarantee that most of you guys would bunny hop in real life if you could to avoid being shot at. Clearly your intentions are to make the gameplay as realistic and fair as possible so that everyone can enjoy it. Ya well, no one is stopping you guys from doing the same, it's your decision not to bunny hop so you have no complaining to do if you ask me. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/700244-bunny-hopping-in-fps-games-is-it-okay/page/3/#findComment-590172800 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackhearted Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 The way i see it, those who complain about bunny hoppers are either: A. So bad that they can't hit a moving target no matter what, or B. console gamers, since it's even more unlikely they'll know how to hit a moving target with thumbsticks(hence why console fps games are uber SLOW paced). Bunny hoppers aren't that big of a threat. And in some games, such as bf2, they're no threat at all since they can't shoot in the air. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/700244-bunny-hopping-in-fps-games-is-it-okay/page/3/#findComment-590173934 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigby Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 I think you can if you want, even though it looks idiotic and doesn't really save you. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/700244-bunny-hopping-in-fps-games-is-it-okay/page/3/#findComment-590173954 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph B Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 Have yet to find any game with the strafe jumping like Quake 3, makes the same so freaking fast and fun. Great stuff. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/700244-bunny-hopping-in-fps-games-is-it-okay/page/3/#findComment-590173962 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green_Eye Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 The way i see it, those who complain about bunny hoppers are either: A. So bad that they can't hit a moving target no matter what, or B. console gamers, since it's even more unlikely they'll know how to hit a moving target with thumbsticks(hence why console fps games are uber SLOW paced).Bunny hoppers aren't that big of a threat. And in some games, such as bf2, they're no threat at all since they can't shoot in the air. Being a console gamer has nothing to do with it. I do concede that console games are slower but I could still just as well put a bullet in the brain of console bunny hopper and I do play console games more. however bunnyhoppers on the PC are just a joy :D I miss PC gaming :( Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/700244-bunny-hopping-in-fps-games-is-it-okay/page/3/#findComment-590174028 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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