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Shutting Down Norton AV 2009

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Does anybody know how one would go about shutting down Norton AntiVirus 2009? There doesn't seem to be an option within the program and even when I can find a process in the task manager, it won't let me end it.

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omg there's a gaming edition of Norton :o When did that happen?

It's the 2009 standard edition renamed for "gamers" :D, to persuade them to install this completely rewritten app (Y).

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It won't let me do that. It says access is restricted (or something like that).

What is it with Symantec anyway? I've never encountered a program that absolutely wouldn't let you shut it down.

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Not to be anal or anything but this is not really the reason I started this thread.

No, but topics do kinda have a flow of their own.

Again I dont see why you'd want or need to shutdown the product. If you deactivate it's features then they'll cease to use Memory and CPU Time, the application should be paged away for the most part.

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No, but topics do kinda have a flow of their own.

Again I dont see why you'd want or need to shutdown the product. If you deactivate it's features then they'll cease to use Memory and CPU Time, the application should be paged away for the most part.

What does "paged away" mean?

Am I to understand that there is no way to actually shut it down? That seems kinda screwy.

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I mean the applications main elements would be put into the Windows PageFile so that Norton wont have ANY effect on system performance. It would be no different from killing it's main services and processes.

So are you saying I can't completely close it?

Also, I've heard of Page Files before but I don't really know what they are, could you elaborate a little?

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I think NAV is protecting its own services; youll have to to the Options and disable any self protection it has.

BTW why do you need to shutdown NAV completely?

I don't anymore, I was having issues with it a week or so ago.

How do you disable self-protection?

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The PageFile,

Ok, so your system has like 2GB of RAM but you'll also have a "Pagefile" stored on the hard drive where things that might be needed later get dumped until they're needed again. For example, you disable Nortons protection and it'll automatically page off those files so they can be accessed later but still remain "in memory".

Another good example of it is you're working on Microsoft Word document and then you decide to take a break and play some Fallout 3 but you leave Microsoft Word open. Windows would move Microsoft Word and your Document into the pagefile so they can be accessed later but leave you with more physical memory for Fallout 3.

Thats as best as I can explain it but that's the general gist.

As for self protection. Right-Click the Norton Icon in the system tray and chose "Disable Auto Protect"

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The PageFile,

Ok, so your system has like 2GB of RAM but you'll also have a "Pagefile" stored on the hard drive where things that might be needed later get dumped until they're needed again. For example, you disable Nortons protection and it'll automatically page off those files so they can be accessed later but still remain "in memory".

Another good example of it is you're working on Microsoft Word document and then you decide to take a break and play some Fallout 3 but you leave Microsoft Word open. Windows would move Microsoft Word and your Document into the pagefile so they can be accessed later but leave you with more physical memory for Fallout 3.

Thats as best as I can explain it but that's the general gist.

As for self protection. Right-Click the Norton Icon in the system tray and chose "Disable Auto Protect"

Thanks for the explanation on paging, it got me what I needed. As far as forcing NAV to shutdown after disabling auto-protect, that didn't work, it still says "access denied."

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Just a guess, but if NAV was so easy to shutdown wouldn't that defeat the purpose of it to begin with? Viruses are written to shut down AV programs or firewalls, so making it more difficult to shut down might be the point!

Shutdown works fine here without any issues. Only possible reason is that you disabled UAC.. I know a few apps that wont work without it now.

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Just a guess, but if NAV was so easy to shutdown wouldn't that defeat the purpose of it to begin with? Viruses are written to shut down AV programs or firewalls, so making it more difficult to shut down might be the point!

Exactly!, you might as well uninstall it from your PC or you could really just disable it in the system tray for a specified time.

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