Rappy Veteran Posted April 14, 2009 Author Veteran Share Posted April 14, 2009 Got to love this :laugh: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/710034-heroes-volume-4-fugitives/page/44/#findComment-590852358 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Peewee210 Subscriber¹ Posted April 14, 2009 Subscriber¹ Share Posted April 14, 2009 Oh my days! I never realised he was on Lost! :laugh: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/710034-heroes-volume-4-fugitives/page/44/#findComment-590852446 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolerodan Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 ahahaha man someone should have the power of "summon bus" and run Danko over in Heroes. Oh well, the last episode was pretty boring except the last few minutes of Sylar and Nathan. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/710034-heroes-volume-4-fugitives/page/44/#findComment-590852522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Lyle Global Moderator Posted April 14, 2009 Global Moderator Share Posted April 14, 2009 1 episode left till the finale! Last nights episode was great! I knew their mother had to of had some sort of power, just couldn't figure out what Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/710034-heroes-volume-4-fugitives/page/44/#findComment-590852530 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veedems Veteran Posted April 14, 2009 Veteran Share Posted April 14, 2009 1 episode left till the finale! Last nights episode was great! I knew their mother had to of had some sort of power, just couldn't figure out what You mean Angela? We've always known that she's had a power. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/710034-heroes-volume-4-fugitives/page/44/#findComment-590852546 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rappy Veteran Posted April 14, 2009 Author Veteran Share Posted April 14, 2009 1 episode left till the finale! Last nights episode was great! I knew their mother had to of had some sort of power, just couldn't figure out what Angela has precognitive dreaming, Sister Alice has Weather Control, Father has Shockwave Emission and the Mother well she didn't use any in the show so we don't know. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/710034-heroes-volume-4-fugitives/page/44/#findComment-590852556 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathachew Veteran Posted April 14, 2009 Veteran Share Posted April 14, 2009 All these people with powers at different times sure seems to blow the eclipse source out of the water. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/710034-heroes-volume-4-fugitives/page/44/#findComment-590852574 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakey Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 the episode itself was not bad. It was a good glimpse of the past and why the company was formed. The thing that I thought was horrible was the dialogue. Too many spilling emotions back and forth. Every scene was like, cry on my shoulder some one! Re-watch the claire talking to both her dads part in the shed. It was just so horribly shot. She walks up, starts spilling this person stuff, and then you see hrg and nathan move at the same time, take up poses.... just seemed too staged. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/710034-heroes-volume-4-fugitives/page/44/#findComment-590852692 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+SOOPRcow MVC Posted April 14, 2009 MVC Share Posted April 14, 2009 All these people with powers at different times sure seems to blow the eclipse source out of the water. I don't see how you could come to that conclusion. There are multiple eclipses every year. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/710034-heroes-volume-4-fugitives/page/44/#findComment-590852696 Share on other sites More sharing options...
-T- Member Posted April 14, 2009 Member Share Posted April 14, 2009 The Eclipse was never a source of everyones powers, it just happened that there was one to activate the powers of these heroes. Each one affects people differently I believe Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/710034-heroes-volume-4-fugitives/page/44/#findComment-590852702 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathachew Veteran Posted April 14, 2009 Veteran Share Posted April 14, 2009 I don't see how you could come to that conclusion. There are multiple eclipses every year. The show emphasized on the eclipses in the third volume as power sources, but we've seen powers manifest without the existence of one at the particular time. The Eclipse was never a source of everyones powers, it just happened that there was one to activate the powers of these heroes. Each one affects people differently I believe I beg to differ. One of the crux's of volume 3 was the eclipse's ability to give and take away powers, one of the sloppiest things the show did to screw itself up. Several sources have been pegged for powers so far. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/710034-heroes-volume-4-fugitives/page/44/#findComment-590852720 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakey Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 I was born during an eclipse.... is that why I don't powers??? or maybe I do................. *poof* Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/710034-heroes-volume-4-fugitives/page/44/#findComment-590852746 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zunefanNL Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 Great, a new season! I live in Europe, so this means that I will have to download these episodes... Dutch television always lags behind a few episodes with Heroes, very annoying.... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/710034-heroes-volume-4-fugitives/page/44/#findComment-590852748 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+SOOPRcow MVC Posted April 14, 2009 MVC Share Posted April 14, 2009 Name one instance in which you can say, with 100% certainty, that a person manifested a power without there being an eclipse. Other then the formula of course which was an "unnatural" method. Just because you haven't seen the eclipse take place doesn't mean it hasn't happened. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/710034-heroes-volume-4-fugitives/page/44/#findComment-590852764 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathachew Veteran Posted April 14, 2009 Veteran Share Posted April 14, 2009 Goodness... not that cop out argument yet again. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/710034-heroes-volume-4-fugitives/page/44/#findComment-590852802 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazysah Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 1 episode left till the finale! Last nights episode was great! I knew their mother had to of had some sort of power, just couldn't figure out what I thought 2 more episodes were left? Anyways, I think they are building it in a nice way for the season finale. I can't wait! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/710034-heroes-volume-4-fugitives/page/44/#findComment-590852814 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+SOOPRcow MVC Posted April 14, 2009 MVC Share Posted April 14, 2009 How is it a cop out? Just 'cause you try and see flaws in everything doesn't mean there are actually flaws in everything. Hell, they even made the point in the first episode with baby Parkman that his power first started to manifest after the last eclipse. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/710034-heroes-volume-4-fugitives/page/44/#findComment-590852824 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rappy Veteran Posted April 14, 2009 Author Veteran Share Posted April 14, 2009 *sigh* Why can't everyone just enjoy the show? rather then pick it apart :( Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/710034-heroes-volume-4-fugitives/page/44/#findComment-590852844 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperJediMedia Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 I've seen the young actress playing the young Angela before too, what's her name? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/710034-heroes-volume-4-fugitives/page/44/#findComment-590852852 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+SOOPRcow MVC Posted April 14, 2009 MVC Share Posted April 14, 2009 I've seen the young actress playing the young Angela before too, what's her name? Alexa Nikolas http://gregbeeman.blogspot.com/ :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/710034-heroes-volume-4-fugitives/page/44/#findComment-590852874 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rappy Veteran Posted April 14, 2009 Author Veteran Share Posted April 14, 2009 I've seen the young actress playing the young Angela before too, what's her name? Her name is Alexa Nikolas Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/710034-heroes-volume-4-fugitives/page/44/#findComment-590852880 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Blood Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 Hope Sylar doesn't kill Nathan in the next episode. I wonder who will face sylar in the last episode? Other than that good episode,shed some light on a lot of things. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/710034-heroes-volume-4-fugitives/page/44/#findComment-590852914 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathachew Veteran Posted April 14, 2009 Veteran Share Posted April 14, 2009 How is it a cop out? Just 'cause you try and see flaws in everything doesn't mean there are actually flaws in everything. Hell, they even made the point in the first episode with baby Parkman that his power first started to manifest after the last eclipse. It's a cop out because it's so easy to say, "Because you didn't see X, doesn't mean Y." It's like waving a magical wand and things are magically different or make sense. Before the eclipse, Claire attempted to kill herself six times, Nikki was tearing bodies to shreds, Hiro was causing hickups in time, Isaac was painting the future, and Peter was absorbing powers. All these things happened before they showed the first eclipse in the season one. Knox first showed his power with no sign of an eclipse. I'm sure there are more examples in the comics of this. Eden is one example, when she told her mom to die. A full, bright moon that night can be seen through the kitchen window, no indication of an eclipse. Can't you just acknowledge the inconsistencies in the eclipses and powers? Evolution being the source is what the show originally started with, and it should have stuck with that because it made sense. I should've known mentioning the eclipse would have ruffled some feathers, heaven forbid I want this show to make some kind of sense in one of its most dynamic elements. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/710034-heroes-volume-4-fugitives/page/44/#findComment-590852938 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+SOOPRcow MVC Posted April 14, 2009 MVC Share Posted April 14, 2009 It's a cop out because it's so easy to say, "Because you didn't see X, doesn't mean Y." It's like waving a magical wand and things are magically different or make sense.Before the eclipse, Claire attempted to kill herself six times, Nikki was tearing bodies to shreds, Hiro was causing hickups in time, Isaac was painting the future, and Peter was absorbing powers. All these things happened before they showed the first eclipse in the season one. Knox first showed his power with no sign of an eclipse. I'm sure there are more examples in the comics of this. Eden is one example, when she told her mom to die. A full, bright moon that night can be seen through the kitchen window, no indication of an eclipse. Can't you just acknowledge the inconsistencies in the eclipses and powers? Evolution being the source is what the show originally started with, and it should have stuck with that because it made sense. I should've known mentioning the eclipse would have ruffled some feathers, heaven forbid I want this show to make some kind of sense in one of its most dynamic elements. The source of the powers still a result of evolution though, there has been a clear definition that there is a DNA source of powers. The real question is what does the eclipse do? I could be something as simple as it causes the powers to manifest or, more likely, it just alters the potency of the powers. This has yet to be explained in the show, nor have they really even tried to. All they have really said is that the eclipses have a significant effect on those who have the genetic makeup for abilities. Just because something is unexplained does not mean it is inconsistent. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/710034-heroes-volume-4-fugitives/page/44/#findComment-590853104 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolerodan Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 I have always thought that the powers are due to Evolution (DNA based) and always has been. However I dont think the Eclipse is "giving" people powers suddenly, negating the evolution cause. I think for some reason the Eclipse had some sort of effect on humans that either sped up the development of their abilities and brought them out earlier than normal, and for some reason temporarily took away peoples powers until the eclipse was gone. I think its sort of like when theres a full moon out, people start to behave differently and act differently on full moons, I forget but theres some sorta saying that goes with a full moon. Something along those lines. I really dont think the eclipse is directly related to "giving people" powers. I just think its a side event that has an effect. Again i think you jumped to conclusions too fast with that issue. Never once did I think the eclipse was the reasoning behind powers but an indirect cause or relation to powers. Again I never heard them mention anything about the eclipse being the source of powers. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/710034-heroes-volume-4-fugitives/page/44/#findComment-590853844 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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