Keito Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 I guess the majority of people complaining about the controllers (the buttons you press, not the game mechanics such as x/y-axis speeds) are people who play the majority of games on an xbox? Would that be a correct assessment? I haven't come across people who play(ed) games on playstation platforms exclusively (so no xbox 1 or 360) and were complaining about the controlls... (note; I do agree they should've just given us the option to map each button the way you want!) And I honestly do believe that Killzone 2 looks better than anything on consoles right now. The game might not have the prettiest/most hi-res textures or anything, but the attention to detail such as sparks actually bouncing, the motion blur/depth of field is just spot on if you ask me, haven't seen anything that good yet. Storywise I wasn't expecting too much of KZ2 since it's an FPS - and while I really do enjoy the setting and story it's not something new, it's still quite nice tho if you ask me... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/738618-official-killzone-2/page/24/#findComment-590644290 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo003 Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 And I honestly do believe that Killzone 2 looks better than anything on consoles right now. I just wanted to correct you on that. :) I think killzone 2 is like paris hilton. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/738618-official-killzone-2/page/24/#findComment-590644312 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massiveterra Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 So I took DL's advice and made the X axis sensitive and the Y axis stiff for headshots. It seems to be working out for me pretty well. I started the game out using Alternate 2 with the Zoom Lock off, but I'm starting to realize that Standard 1 makes the most sense with the cover system. The problem is that when I'm running and gunning and the enemies are somewhat far away, I instinctively press L1 to zoom, so Standard 1 works against me during those situations. I just hope I don't end up switching back and forth between Standard 1 and Alternate 2 for the rest of the campaign Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/738618-official-killzone-2/page/24/#findComment-590644324 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keito Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 I just wanted to correct you on that. :) I think killzone 2 is like paris hilton.I expressed my opinion ;) and I still stand by it, you should've just stated that you believe it is the bestlooking game on the PS3, not changed my quote, because I didn't say that nor do I mean that :pno harsh feelings though, just wanted to correct you on that. :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/738618-official-killzone-2/page/24/#findComment-590644332 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razorwing Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 hey guys any idea on why they took out the cover system for MP? cause it's just getting retarded... people die soooo quickly that's not even funny. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/738618-official-killzone-2/page/24/#findComment-590644334 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corris Veteran Posted February 28, 2009 Veteran Share Posted February 28, 2009 I agree Keito. The game is for me really good, not perfect in anyway, but no game is. It looks really good, some scenes looks pretty stunning, and some not so much, but the whole thing looks damn good, and that includes multi-player which carries over a lot of the great visuals from single player. I don't see what all the fuss is about with the controls? I had no problem holding down L2 while holding R1, pressing forward on one analogue and aiming with the other, though I can see how some would, they should have had the crouch/cover the same as sights so we can choose weather to hold or not. And I also didn't see what most of the problem with the layout is either, the only people who I would assume are going to complain are those who play play Call of Duty games on the Xbox, because the control scheme difference between CoD4 on the Ps3 and K2 on Alt2 are barely anything, the crouch button is R2 and umm, that's pretty much it unless I'm forgetting something? You just have to learn to use your middle finger as well. :p A few of years ago a lot, if not most, games would have completely different controls, I wonder if anyone ever played different games back then, you would have to learn each games controls from the beginning. Though I agree they still should have let us customize them. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/738618-official-killzone-2/page/24/#findComment-590644342 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted February 28, 2009 Author Subscriber² Share Posted February 28, 2009 hey guys any idea on why they took out the cover system for MP? cause it's just getting retarded... people die soooo quickly that's not even funny. MP is always a field of 360 degrees, SP most of the time you're just going forwards in a FOV of like 90 or something? If you were locking to cover in MP it would be a pain in the ass to unlock, then try and turn around change direction. The cover system was in the MP beta at one point, but it was removed due to feedback from the testers that it just didn't work. And people dying quickly are probably those trying to charge around - I get most of my kills from finding good vantage points and picking people off. It doesn't take a lot to drop bodies so stay in groups of at least 2 and take it slowly scanning the horizon for red/blue glows every so often - At least on the bigger maps anyway. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/738618-official-killzone-2/page/24/#findComment-590644344 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo003 Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 I expressed my opinion ;) and I still stand by it, you should've just stated that you believe it is the bestlooking game on the PS3, not changed my quote, because I didn't say that nor do I mean that :p no harsh feelings though, just wanted to correct you on that. :) Thanks,:) sorry about changing whay you said. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/738618-official-killzone-2/page/24/#findComment-590644348 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlibbyFlobby Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 I managed to get some time to play online last night and this morning and so far it seems pretty fun. Aiming can be a bit annoying at times, sometimes it's just a little too fast or slow. Ranking up could get a little frustrating. I want the Scout badge (looks pretty awesome!) but it looks like I have a long way to go yet. Still being a Medic is okay for now I guess. :p On the topic of ranking up, can you use all the different badges in Skirmish mode by default? I don't think I saw it, but I only had a brief go. If you can't play about with all badges offline without first unlocking them online that seems pretty lame to me. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/738618-official-killzone-2/page/24/#findComment-590644394 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razorwing Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 MP is always a field of 360 degrees, SP most of the time you're just going forwards in a FOV of like 90 or something?If you were locking to cover in MP it would be a pain in the ass to unlock, then try and turn around change direction. The cover system was in the MP beta at one point, but it was removed due to feedback from the testers that it just didn't work. And people dying quickly are probably those trying to charge around - I get most of my kills from finding good vantage points and picking people off. It doesn't take a lot to drop bodies so stay in groups of at least 2 and take it slowly scanning the horizon for red/blue glows every so often - At least on the bigger maps anyway. then merely this is just another Counter Strike with no cover... lol. But no doubt I still have fun. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/738618-official-killzone-2/page/24/#findComment-590644418 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted February 28, 2009 Author Subscriber² Share Posted February 28, 2009 then merely this is just another Counter Strike with no cover... lol. But no doubt I still have fun. Use crouch and hide behind things, there's your cover? The only difference in SP is you lock onto things and can peak around corners at an angle. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/738618-official-killzone-2/page/24/#findComment-590644456 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 I wish I could toggle sprint. It annoys me that I have to hit R3 (or whatever button it is) to stop sprinting. By the time I realise I'm usually dead. Wish I could join in on the Neowin fun, not until Monday though :( Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/738618-official-killzone-2/page/24/#findComment-590644464 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted February 28, 2009 Author Subscriber² Share Posted February 28, 2009 Yeah I'm heading out in 25 mins, I should be on tomorrow if I ain't too hungover :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/738618-official-killzone-2/page/24/#findComment-590644512 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sethos Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 Already hit the point where I don't even want to play another round, the game lacks soul, passion and unique features. Playing this game online feels like sticking your tongue out the window, hoping for a flavour adventure and then the disappoint just hits you hard. Most "AAA" titles gives you this urge to boot up the game, kill a few guys and the log back out. This game has none of that. How do you even mute people?! The immature kids, noise and retardation is even worse than on Xbox Live, coupled with the noisy and loud ( mostly ) BT headsets. Also, why are Body Count rounds so short?! I spent more time loading, waiting and loading again than playing. A round lasted like 1 minute?! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/738618-official-killzone-2/page/24/#findComment-590644616 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted February 28, 2009 Author Subscriber² Share Posted February 28, 2009 Round lengths are dictated by the server creator I believe. You can mute people and report abuse by pressing select then going to the list of people then pressing square on their name. Give the game a better chance, play with some of us online. We've not even arranged any clan games or anything yet, most people are still taking time to get used to online and at least unlock a couple of classes. The maps are my favourite part of online, they just look awesome. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/738618-official-killzone-2/page/24/#findComment-590644662 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sethos Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 Round lengths are dictated by the server creator I believe.You can mute people and report abuse by pressing select then going to the list of people then pressing square on their name. Give the game a better chance, play with some of us online. You have got to be kidding me? I hate when games do that, standard rules on XP-enabled servers, thank you. Is there a global mute setting on the PS3? Can't be arsed spending my entire night muting the server. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/738618-official-killzone-2/page/24/#findComment-590644668 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted February 28, 2009 Author Subscriber² Share Posted February 28, 2009 (edited) You have got to be kidding me? I hate when games do that, standard rules on XP-enabled servers, thank you. Is there a global mute setting on the PS3? Can't be arsed spending my entire night muting the server. I have no idea, I'm just guessing. Just play a deathmatch only server instead of a Warzone server if you want to play deathmatch for a long period of time. The whole point in Warzone is it chops and changes the flow of gameplay regularly - Usually along the lines of 3-5 minute spells. If your server is that bad from people, join another. And in regards to a global mute, if you go into KZ2 options, then sound, I believe you can turn the voice chat slider right down. Edited February 28, 2009 by Audioboxer Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/738618-official-killzone-2/page/24/#findComment-590644676 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 I wish you could just turn chat off or have it set specifically to squad chat only. The amount of feedback and general noise from all the Bluetooth headsets is unreal. It's deafening at times. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/738618-official-killzone-2/page/24/#findComment-590644680 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunknMunky Veteran Posted February 28, 2009 Veteran Share Posted February 28, 2009 Again, wired headsets ftw :p BT = epic fail Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/738618-official-killzone-2/page/24/#findComment-590644682 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted February 28, 2009 Author Subscriber² Share Posted February 28, 2009 I wish you could just turn chat off or have it set specifically to squad chat only. The amount of feedback and general noise from all the Bluetooth headsets is unreal. It's deafening at times. It's ridiculous between joining maps, they gotta patch that to only allow your team/your squad to talk. When you're in 32 player rooms and everyone tries to talk at once that doesn't work. However during gameplay if you're in a squad unless you're next to someone you shouldn't really hear anyone else apart from your squad. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/738618-official-killzone-2/page/24/#findComment-590644692 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sethos Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 I have no idea, I'm just guessing.Just play a deathmatch only server instead of a Warzone server if you want to play deathmatch for a long period of time. The whole point in Warzone is it chops and changes the flow of gameplay regularly - Usually along the lines of 3-5 minute spells. That's what I did! Every time we won, it went back to lobby, we waited, loaded for ages, we waited for everyone to ready up and then played for like a minute or two - Repeat! Also the problem I had, in a 20+ player game in the lobby, THE NOISE, ARG! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/738618-official-killzone-2/page/24/#findComment-590644738 Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Audioboxer Subscriber² Posted February 28, 2009 Author Subscriber² Share Posted February 28, 2009 That's what I did! Every time we won, it went back to lobby, we waited, loaded for ages, we waited for everyone to ready up and then played for like a minute or two - Repeat! There must be server side options then? I've played deathmatch games that have lasted a while - Ask Munky, he created an Insomniacs deathmatch only room and I'm sure the games went on for what, 10-15 mins? Certainly was not 2 minutes when we played :p Anyway I gotta shoot, be on tomorrow! Can we please do some clan practice only soon? A locked room for the bulk of the clan, so we can all get to know how each of us plays? :) There's quite a few of us who've never played with each other before for long spells of time. Plus we gotta get some sort of formation on the go for clan games, who's playing support, who's on offence, who's on defence? It would be nice to do a decently serious clan seeing as the groundwork for arranging games and tournaments is all there for us, no manual labour needed. Plus I think it's the first time the 360 and PS3 forums have merged for a while, would be nice for us to do something not involving fighting each other :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/738618-official-killzone-2/page/24/#findComment-590644744 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Massiveterra Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 I don't know if this was posted yet, but here are Guerrilla Game's Must-Do list for KZ2 http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2009/02/27/...for-killzone-2/ The PlayStation 3 shooter we?ve been talking about for years is finally becoming a reality, as ?Killzone 2″ arrives on shelves today. We asked developer Guerrilla Games producer Sebastian Downie to compile a list of things ?Killzone 2″ gamers ?must do? while playing their game ? here?s what he said.Guerrilla Games Developers? Must-Do List For Players of ?Killzone 2? (PlayStation Fantasy Garden Simulator, February 2009) 1. On the mine-train in Tharsis Refinery, find the hidden Boltgun and nail Helghast soldiers to the tunnel walls. Its rewarding in more ways than one. 2. After playing online, go to www.killzone.com to view the Battle Replay of your game to see how you can improve your performance. Or you can use it to spy on the tactics deployed by a rival clan. 3. Rank up to Sergeant and create a Clan in-game or on www.killzone.com to take part in massive tournaments of up to 256 clans, or challenge rival clans for ?valor?, the online currency of the game. 4. Keep an eye out for the [GG] Clan when you are online and see if you can take out a developer or two. 5. In the slums of Salamun District wait till the Helghast rappel from the dropship before exploding the yellow barrels. It will take them out in one fiery blast and often enough their burning corpses will swing from the rafters above. Killzone 2 is all about the burning corpses. 6. Upload your single player stats to www.killzone.com to compare them with your friends for bragging rights as well as catch up on the latest news, content and gossip on the forums. 7. In Killzone 2 multiplayer for search-and-destroy and capture-and-hold missions: select the tactician badge with the speed boost secondary ability to take one for the team. Rush the objective and pop a spawn point making it much easier for your team to gain the upper hand. 8. When playing online search-and-retrieve missions: Let your enemies do your work for you! As the saboteur, Ambush the delivery location with C4, don a disguise, and wait for your enemy propaganda carrier to come by. Once he blows up, you only need to carry the propaganda speaker a few short steps to victory! 9. In multiplayer: Look at what weapons your fallen adversaries are carrying! By picking up their weapons you can end up with some deadly combinations of abilities and weapons, such as the heavy armor of an assault trooper with the LMG of a rifleman; or a cloaked scout wielding a shotgun (Devastating at close quarters!) 10. When playing multiplayer, press the PS button and bring up the XMB. You can then listen to custom music from your PS3 to go with your killing sprees. Nothing says ?Kill the ISA scum? like the super swinging sounds of Burt Bacharach. 11. In Maelstra barrens, rather than wasting valuable ammunition on the traitorous Helghast, step on them with your Exo-skeleton instead. Much more satisfying and you might even get a trophy for it. 12. In multiplayer try to place your gun turrets and sentry bots near spawn markers to offer defense for spawning re-enforcements. Also try to place sentry bots or turrets near your own ammo crates. In short, think carefully about where you place support items and try to place them next to other support items. 13. Use the shotgun close range on enemy heads to blow them apart like ripe fruit. Also makes a very satisfying squishy noise. 14. To see what the AI is capable of, why not add some bots to your multiplayer games. They will perform most of the abilities human players can and not complain if you team-kill or tea-bag them. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/738618-official-killzone-2/page/24/#findComment-590644856 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunknMunky Veteran Posted February 28, 2009 Veteran Share Posted February 28, 2009 My Insomniacs room was setup for 100 kills in 20 mins. You can reach it well before the time runs out though. I played one TDM earlier, 15 mins 100 kills. There was 8 minutes left when we won. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/738618-official-killzone-2/page/24/#findComment-590644890 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 28, 2009 Share Posted February 28, 2009 Warzone is still the way forward. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/738618-official-killzone-2/page/24/#findComment-590644902 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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