[Cancelled] Heroes Season 4 (Volume 5 : Redemption)

[Rappy Veteran]

[D!ABOL!C]

Great Episode, and loved the Crono Trigger shoutout!

[CrossCheck]

I hope they don't cancel Heroes any time soon. The just need to go back to what made this show good. Action, suspense and kill off the carnies. they are trying to bring in too many characters at once. the need to get back to and focus on the characters that made this show great. I wanna see how hiro becomes future hiro.

I think networks tend to kill off shows to early. they tend to kill off shows that are new but put in time slots that are against emmy nominees and tenured shows. 3 good shows that got the axe too early are a good example of this

Kings

Jericho

The Black Donnellys

[Mathachew Veteran]

I hope they don't cancel Heroes any time soon. The just need to go back to what made this show good. Action, suspense and kill off the carnies. they are trying to bring in too many characters at once. the need to get back to and focus on the characters that made this show great. I wanna see how hiro becomes future hiro.

I think networks tend to kill off shows to early. they tend to kill off shows that are new but put in time slots that are against emmy nominees and tenured shows. 3 good shows that got the axe too early are a good example of this

Kings

Jericho

The Black Donnellys

This show is in its fourth season, hardly being killed off early. It's because it had four seasons that it is in it's current state.

[Wannes]

Still have to watch last night's episode and reading this topic beforehand is not good. *sigh*

[+Peewee210 Subscriber¹]

I actually enjoyed that episode and liked the twist at the end :)

[Rappy Veteran]

looks like major death really is Nathan which really isn't major imo

[Mathachew Veteran]

If it's Nathan, than so what?! He's been dead since last season, this was bound to happen eventually. They have abandoned his character who now serves no purpose, except being able to jump in and out of political power as many times as people are resurrected from the dead on this show. If it is him, it's not the major because I think we all saw it coming. Keeping him around has been grasping at straws.

[nomis_nehc]

The way it ended was really stupid to me though. If Hiro has more control of jumping through time now, why doesn't he just jump back in time to right before Charlie walks out that door? Or even just go back a little bit, freeze time, and move the "butterfly man".

That seems out-rightly idiotic to me.

[episode]

How?

Because people tune in to watch the news. As such, moving the news back an hour would probably hurt more than it helps.

Also, adding the additional hour would require Fox to cut the budget of the shows in order to pay for the new shows.

[shoust]

The way it ended was really stupid to me though. If Hiro has more control of jumping through time now, why doesn't he just jump back in time to right before Charlie walks out that door? Or even just go back a little bit, freeze time, and move the "butterfly man".

That seems out-rightly idiotic to me.

Perhaps theres an extra twist to this, after Hiro does what 'Butterfly man' wants, it is a future Hiro that takes Charlie with him?

[Rappy Veteran]

ratings were up this week which is good :)

[Beastage]

Still have to watch last night's episode and reading this topic beforehand is not good. *sigh*

Don't listen to the easily confused, short sighted, numbnuts on here :p

I loved this episode, it was good and opens many possibilities, I was really impressed with the good progress Hereos been doing this season.

[Rappy Veteran]

I liked it when Sylar got rid of the aneurysm, showed his skills can be used for good

[Julius Caro]

WHERE THE HELL IS CHARLIE??!?! I DIDNT sit though this epically boring episode to have that sucky, twisted ending!!

As for Nathan. Let me think. He got burned during season 1 finale, by a nuclear blast of all things, he survived. He got shot in the chest in the season 2 finale, he came back to life, reason still unknown. In the season 3 finale, he is FINALLY killed for good, yet they put his mind on sylars body. So I say GOOD RIDDANCE.

[kjordan2001]

Samuel is his name Andrew.

I think last episode proved, once again, that he can't. He took Emma's ability but left the "fast running" one behind.

Yeah, him getting the compass on his arm while still having a power confused me.

[Rappy Veteran]

So as most of you should know by now, the actor leaving show is Adrian Pasdar and what some media outlets called a "major death" has been confirmed as the final demise of Nathan Petrelli.

Yes, once again not really a death since Nathan was dead already, but it seems like there will finally be a battle between not only Sylar and Nathan and Sylar and Matt but Peter and Sylar (as Nathan). At the end of everything apparently Sylar takes over the body and that is the end of Nathan.

I am not sure why this had to take place at all but hopefully this will help strengthen Peter's character.

I know they are promising an "epic" battle again, but do not get too hyped as we know NBC is also dealing with budget cuts. Hopefully we get some good action and the battle ends up playing out well on screen.

Thanks to Knox Kramer and SickofSylar for the heads up about this article from SciFi Wire that provides us with details about these two battles via producer Adam Armus:

Executive producer Adam Armus danced around the subject during a recent interview. After he spilled the beans, he swore me to secrecy, and I promised not to reveal who was going to die until the cat was let out of the bag. Well, the cat clawed her way out of that bag, and it's now been reported in several outlets that Adrian Pasdar is the unlucky guy and that his character, Nathan Petrelli, will bite the dust before the year's end. E! Online's Kristin Dos Santos also reported that Pasdar learned about his character's exit not from a phone call, but from a script.

"We all know that Nathan Petrelli last year was killed, and his mind was put into Sylar's body and shape-shifted into Nathan," said Armus. "We made some commitments last year, and we've committed that there is going to be an epic battle between two characters and who's going to win and who's going to lose. That's something we've been planning all this year. So we know that someone has to lose."

"This whole Sylar-in-one-body-and-his-mind-in-another with Matt Parkman, all that's going to come to a head, because ultimately Sylar is going to win. He's ultimately going to get out of Matt Parkman's head and get back into his body," said Armus. Which would mean it's not looking good for Nathan. Somehow, even on a show called Heroes, Nathan's flying ability probably won't be a lot of help to him if he doesn't have a body.

"Once Nathan and Sylar come back together, there is a battle for the life of that body. Who is going to be in control? And whoever loses is the one that dies," said Armus. "It's the knock-down-drag-out 'Who's going to win this body?', and it's going to be between Peter and Nathan/Sylar. And Peter's going to be fighting for his brother." And obviously not winning.

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[Mathachew Veteran]

So like we said before, not so shocking.

[Rappy Veteran]

So like we said before, not so shocking.

true but I am intrigued to see how they do it

[+Peewee210 Subscriber¹]

He got shot in the chest in the season 2 finale, he came back to life, reason still unknown.

That has been explained, but I forgot how...

[+SOOPRcow MVC]

He was healed by future peter who had the power from linderman :)

[+Peewee210 Subscriber¹]

He was healed by future peter who had the power from linderman :)

That's it!

[Julius Caro]

He was healed by future peter who had the power from linderman :)

What linderman? The fake linderman? Peter never met linderman.

[shoust]

He was healed by future peter who had the power from linderman :)

It wasn't linderman, it was a projection from matt parkman's dad.

[+SOOPRcow MVC]

No, future peter had absorbed the power from linderman. Just like present peter did. Only he never knew he had it. I understand that was the fake linderman Nathan was seeing.