[Cancelled] Heroes Season 4 (Volume 5 : Redemption)

[Julius Caro]

No, future peter had absorbed the power from linderman. Just like present peter did. Only he never knew he had it. I understand that was the fake linderman Nathan was seeing.

No. The fake linderman was maury, that was explained later on. And I dont recall present peter EVER meeting linderman. Even the "heroes wiki" says that nathan "somehow" came back to life. There really is no explanation. The explanation back then was that linderman was in the room, but then linderman turned out to be fake, so there was no healing power involved.

[Jiggah]

So as most of you should know by now, the actor leaving show is Adrian Pasdar and what some media outlets called a "major death" has been confirmed as the final demise of Nathan Petrelli.

Yes, once again not really a death since Nathan was dead already, but it seems like there will finally be a battle between not only Sylar and Nathan and Sylar and Matt but Peter and Sylar (as Nathan). At the end of everything apparently Sylar takes over the body and that is the end of Nathan.

I am not sure why this had to take place at all but hopefully this will help strengthen Peter's character.

I know they are promising an "epic" battle again, but do not get too hyped as we know NBC is also dealing with budget cuts. Hopefully we get some good action and the battle ends up playing out well on screen.

Thanks to Knox Kramer and SickofSylar for the heads up about this article from SciFi Wire that provides us with details about these two battles via producer Adam Armus:

Executive producer Adam Armus danced around the subject during a recent interview. After he spilled the beans, he swore me to secrecy, and I promised not to reveal who was going to die until the cat was let out of the bag. Well, the cat clawed her way out of that bag, and it's now been reported in several outlets that Adrian Pasdar is the unlucky guy and that his character, Nathan Petrelli, will bite the dust before the year's end. E! Online's Kristin Dos Santos also reported that Pasdar learned about his character's exit not from a phone call, but from a script.

"We all know that Nathan Petrelli last year was killed, and his mind was put into Sylar's body and shape-shifted into Nathan," said Armus. "We made some commitments last year, and we've committed that there is going to be an epic battle between two characters and who's going to win and who's going to lose. That's something we've been planning all this year. So we know that someone has to lose."

"This whole Sylar-in-one-body-and-his-mind-in-another with Matt Parkman, all that's going to come to a head, because ultimately Sylar is going to win. He's ultimately going to get out of Matt Parkman's head and get back into his body," said Armus. Which would mean it's not looking good for Nathan. Somehow, even on a show called Heroes, Nathan's flying ability probably won't be a lot of help to him if he doesn't have a body.

"Once Nathan and Sylar come back together, there is a battle for the life of that body. Who is going to be in control? And whoever loses is the one that dies," said Armus. "It's the knock-down-drag-out 'Who's going to win this body?', and it's going to be between Peter and Nathan/Sylar. And Peter's going to be fighting for his brother." And obviously not winning.

Posted By: TheODI

I called it. It's a no brainer.

Who is more worthy to the audience? This current storyline can't stick around forever and the choice had to be made. The fact that they are going to use it to propel conflict is nice, I just hope it isn't as much of letdown as the first season.

[+SOOPRcow MVC]

No. The fake linderman was maury, that was explained later on. And I dont recall present peter EVER meeting linderman. Even the "heroes wiki" says that nathan "somehow" came back to life. There really is no explanation. The explanation back then was that linderman was in the room, but then linderman turned out to be fake, so there was no healing power involved.

They show peter and nathan both standing around linderman in the episode where they show their parents wedding anniversary. It's a flash back episode. :)

Even if he didn't get it from Linderman he, future peter, could've picked it up from someone else.

[Rappy Veteran]

I called it. It's a no brainer.

Who is more worthy to the audience? This current storyline can't stick around forever and the choice had to be made. The fact that they are going to use it to propel conflict is nice, I just hope it isn't as much of letdown as the first season.

the good thing to come from it is...the battle between Peter vs Sylar/Nathan is going to be epic and really hope its not a look through keyhole again because that cheap cop out **** right there!

[Jiggah]

It was Future Peter who saved Nathan. During the episode, you see Peter leave the room then Future Peter comes in, disguising his scar to look like Peter. Where Future Peter got the power is irrelevant since he could have gotten it anywhere.

[Julius Caro]

Nah I dont buy that either. Future peter look was like "OMG WTF you're alive !!! good that means I didnt actually kill you, yet I still got what I wanted". I think it was intended for future peter to be surprised at nathan coming back to life. And we've never seen an 'be on the same room as someone, get healed' power.

[+SOOPRcow MVC]

Peter absorbed powers, there is a good chance he picked up powers without knowing he picked up a power.

[dt]

That episode made no sense lol.. they seem to be contradicting themselves with all this time travel business. I kept getting confused, which Hiro is which, and what are we seeing now? What time period? lol

I can't say I'm surprised by the rumors that Heroes won't be getting renewed for a fifth season.

[Jiggah]

Nah I dont buy that either. Future peter look was like "OMG WTF you're alive !!! good that means I didnt actually kill you, yet I still got what I wanted". I think it was intended for future peter to be surprised at nathan coming back to life. And we've never seen an 'be on the same room as someone, get healed' power.

We don't need to see Future Peter be in a room with someone. You just have to accept the fact that Future Peter has had more experience than Past Peter, which the scar represents and that meant more run-ins with people with powers.

He could be surprised that he has changed the future, which turns out didn't change for the best at all.

[Rappy Veteran]

has anyone been following the Slow Burn webseries?, quite interesting Lydias daughter and some new powers like Spider Mimicry and Spontaneous Combustion!

[Bobster]

Just read on YouTube so not sure if this is accurate or not, but some guy states:

"peter will get his abilites back its already been confirmed by Tim and the heroes cast, will be interesting how the rest plays out." and then "he loses his ability then gets first ability back where he can hold onto many."

Any truth to this? If so then :woot:

[GameOverRob]

It better be, it's about the only thing that could save the show!

[Rappy Veteran]

Just read on YouTube so not sure if this is accurate or not, but some guy states:

"peter will get his abilites back its already been confirmed by Tim and the heroes cast, will be interesting how the rest plays out." and then "he loses his ability then gets first ability back where he can hold onto many."

Any truth to this? If so then :woot:

not confirmed by Tim at all, he confirmed a battle between Peter and Sylar but that's all and the death of Nathan in the process

[Wannes]

If Peter doesn't get his powers back that will be one hell of a boring and short battle.

[Rappy Veteran]

yeah but who knows he might acquire a power that is amazing :p *clutches at straws*

I really want an epic battle though!

[Gotenks98]

Actually you are all wrong about peter getting the power from linderman that heals nathan. It was actually the same power that hiro's mother has. The kiss of life power. He got that power from her because you notice nathan doesnt come back alive until he kisses nathan's forehead.

[shakey]

Didn't Peter save Nathan by Claire's power? I thought he just used his/claire blood to save him, since he had her power during that time. But Peter never met linderman, not while he was alive. Linderman was dead long before peter saw the fake one. And he never met Hiro's mother either. The safest bet is to use the power we know he had, which was claires blood.

[Gotenks98]

Dude, the people of the company easily interacted with one another. I am pretty sure peter met linderman because there is a seen that has it. Also with all the time traveling that future peter did its very possible he picked that power up from her.

[Mathachew Veteran]

Didn't Peter save Nathan by Claire's power? I thought he just used his/claire blood to save him, since he had her power during that time. But Peter never met linderman, not while he was alive. Linderman was dead long before peter saw the fake one. And he never met Hiro's mother either. The safest bet is to use the power we know he had, which was claires blood.

There was no blood transfusion, which makes the healing all the more confusing.

Dude, the people of the company easily interacted with one another. I am pretty sure peter met linderman because there is a seen that has it. Also with all the time traveling that future peter did its very possible he picked that power up from her.

Dude, you can't assume so many things.

[Gotenks98]

There was no blood transfusion, which makes the healing all the more confusing.

Dude, you can't assume so many things.

The problem is people expect the writters to think of everything. Yes there are going to be huge plot holes. There pretty much always is when its this kind of show. For instance why didnt peter just teleport the healer kid and noah directly to hiro instead of just taking his power? That would have gotten them all out of that lench mob mess that they delt with. See thats a plot hole, I dont question it, I just move on, which is what most of you need to do.

[Rappy Veteran]

^^ more of that please! ^^

[shakey]

^^ more of that please! ^^

When is that from? i dont remember that scene???? Is that new? is there a old new hiro? lol, whats going on???

[Rappy Veteran]

That's from when Sylar is Nathan and is president and leads into this...

basically the future that never happened

[shakey]

That's from when Sylar is Nathan and is president and leads into this...

basically the future that never happened

Thats right... damn the second season. lol.

I still think the safest bet is that peter used his claire blood on nathan. To assume he had more healing powers on top of his invincible blood, would be even more overkill to his already overkill of powers. At least that's how I see it. We never knew of any other healers besides 2 that died way before Peter manifested his powers. Well, 1 way before his powers came up, and Linderman died before he even knew who Linderman really was. I doubt he got lindermans powers while still a kid... I just think they would have hinted to that more if it was true.

[Rappy Veteran]

yeah I liked that future, if they could do just a season of the future it would be awesome :D