7264 in the wild?

[Yusuf M. Veteran]

Still uses the same start-up sound as Windows Vista.

Are there any plans to replace it? I mean, a new operating system means a new start-up sound. I'm sure that was the case with every operating system release after Windows 95.

[null_]

Are there any plans to replace it? I mean, a new operating system means a new start-up sound. I'm sure that was the case with every operating system release after Windows 95.

It's certainly possible, but I haven't heard anything from any of my sources that would confirm or deny it.

[FaiKee]

I thought the cosmectics(sound, icons, etc.) was to be done after RTM, no??

[br0adband]

I thought the cosmectics(sound, icons, etc.) was to be done after RTM, no??

I don't know why it's so tough for people to grasp this simple concept:

RTM means IT'S DONE, FINITO, FINISHED.

Once the actual RTM build is compiled, approved, and signed off on and classified as RTM, aka "Gold," that's it - Microsoft is done with it, nothing else is added, nothing else is removed, that's it.

I know it's redundant but geezus people... RTM = "It's done."

Everything that can be added must be added, everything that has been detected as a problem has to be fixed, everything gets put into that one single build that's taken years to create and that's it once and for all.

Got it?

[FaiKee]

I don't know why it's so tough for people to grasp this simple concept:

RTM means IT'S DONE, FINITO, FINISHED.

Once the actual RTM build is compiled, approved, and signed off on and classified as RTM, aka "Gold," that's it - Microsoft is done with it, nothing else is added, nothing else is removed, that's it.

I know it's redundant but geezus people... RTM = "It's done."

Everything that can be added must be added, everything that has been detected as a problem has to be fixed, everything gets put into that one single build that's taken years to create and that's it once and for all.

Got it?

I made that remark because about a month ago there was a thread here mentioning and confirming there would be cosmetic changes after the RTM. If you are definitive then we'll just have to wait and see.

I am totally neutral.

[FaiKee]

Not gonna flame you, don't worry. Just wondering if the July 13 date is solid or not. :p

reply#2

Just now Neowin news confirmed this:

So with that said TechNet, MSDN, and a few other partner connections will also be getting the RTM build on July 13. So let the countdown begin!

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Personally I thought a Neowin officially announced news is a hell lot of difference to some "back-door news", but of course I respect what the mods decided to be appropriate. :)

[joontje]

Could have been caused by a memory leak in the graphics driver, or some other random glitch. What card do you have, and what 7 build was this encountered in?

2x 4870's using catalyst 9.6 on build 7264 (x64)

[Subject Delta]

Ah right, may be an issue specifically related to crossfire, or the build, I am still running the RC and I only have 1 card

[br0adband]

I made that remark because about a month ago there was a thread here mentioning and confirming there would be cosmetic changes after the RTM. If you are definitive then we'll just have to wait and see.

I am totally neutral.

Think of it this way:

Once the code is signed off as RTM, it's done. They then make a Gold master which is sent out to the pressing plants to produce the roughly 750 million DVDs they're going to be needing (remember: Home Premium and Pro will come with 2 DVDs in retail boxes this time unlike with Vista - and yes, Ultimate will have both as well, and I'm stating 750 million as a rough estimate for worldwide production, plus all the discs for OEMs, etc) -

So tell me, once those DVDs are pressed and in boxes within the next few weeks following the Gold/RTM release to the pressing plants, how would Microsoft be able to just add any old stuff to it past that point?

Does that make it easier to understand? Once the code is RTM it's distributed outside of Microsoft as a "Gold" master (hence RTM originally meaning "Gold" status, ready for a master distribution copy), it can't be modified anymore and nothing can be added to that disc; it sure as hell ain't a rewritable, and they're fairly expensive to manufacture. :D

[FaiKee]

Think of it this way:

Once the code is signed off as RTM, it's done. They then make a Gold master which is sent out to the pressing plants to produce the roughly 750 million DVDs they're going to be needing (remember: Home Premium and Pro will come with 2 DVDs in retail boxes this time unlike with Vista - and yes, Ultimate will have both as well, and I'm stating 750 million as a rough estimate for worldwide production, plus all the discs for OEMs, etc) -

So tell me, once those DVDs are pressed and in boxes within the next few weeks following the Gold/RTM release to the pressing plants, how would Microsoft be able to just add any old stuff to it past that point?

Does that make it easier to understand? Once the code is RTM it's distributed outside of Microsoft as a "Gold" master (hence RTM originally meaning "Gold" status, ready for a master distribution copy), it can't be modified anymore and nothing can be added to that disc; it sure as hell ain't a rewritable, and they're fairly expensive to manufacture. :D

I know about that sir, but couldn't it be done by making some windows updates waiting to be downloaded once the user installed the OS?? :)

[br0adband]

Have they ever done such a thing before? I mean really... I want a solid OS, I could care less what it looks like, I can handle the "cosmetic" changes on my own after RTM... aren't there more important aspects that people should actually care about?

[+Gary7 Subscriber²]

I don't know why it's so tough for people to grasp this simple concept:

RTM means IT'S DONE, FINITO, FINISHED.

Once the actual RTM build is compiled, approved, and signed off on and classified as RTM, aka "Gold," that's it - Microsoft is done with it, nothing else is added, nothing else is removed, that's it.

I know it's redundant but geezus people... RTM = "It's done."

Everything that can be added must be added, everything that has been detected as a problem has to be fixed, everything gets put into that one single build that's taken years to create and that's it once and for all.

Got it?

All of these builds are not RTM they are RTM escrow 0r candidates.

We?ve received word from a trusted source close to GeekSmack that Windows 7 will be on TechNet/MSDN before the end of the month, so those of us with a premium TechNet/MSDN account will be able to get the official RTM build about 2 months ahead of when Windows 7 will hit store shelves on October 22nd. Microsoft is currently hard at work on getting that RTM build out to the world, and to ensure a smooth release, they?re trying to locate and remove any serious show-stopper bugs.

Here is a list of the latest builds that were compiled:

6.1.7260.0.win7_rtm.090612-2110 - Leaked June 17, 2009 (VHD and ISO)

6.1.7261.0.win7_rtm.090615-1900 - RTM Candidate - Voted no go (7233 ?)

6.1.7262.0.win7_rtm.090617-1900 - RTM Candidate - Voted no go

6.1.7263.0.win7_rtm.090619-1900 - RTM Candidate - Voted no go

6.1.7264.0.win7_rtm.090622-1900 - Leaked June 30, 2009 (ISO)

6.1.7265.0.win7_rtm.090624-1905 - RTM Candidate

6.1.7266.0.win7_rtm.090625-1847 - RTM Candidate

6.1.7267.0.win7_rtm.090629-1900 - RTM Candidate 6.1.7268.0.win7_rtm.090701-xxxx - RTM Candidate (still a rumored build ? no confirmation yet that it has been compiled)

The RTM release is closing in and we?ll be on top of that, so stay tuned

http://www.geeksmack.net/microsoft/434-tid...this-month.html

[FaiKee]

Have they ever done such a thing before? I mean really... I want a solid OS, I could care less what it looks like, I can handle the "cosmetic" changes on my own after RTM... aren't there more important aspects that people should actually care about?

Well, somebody mentioned the sound thing and I made a casual remark, so I guess it's not for me to answer....since I just left the sound and icons as default. :)

[Jash Sayani]

How is this build going to be different from the RC ?

[Digitalx]

How is this build going to be different from the RC ?

Depends what you mean/intend by different. Feature wise or visually no. Code will finalized and optimized and more stable possibly faster so in terms of general over view no, it will be very much equal to what you see with RC.

[Pikey]

It's was said that 7265 had removed the show-stopper bug,

What show-stopper bug was that .. I must have missed something?

[joontje]

So today i decided to test Vista SP2 vs Win7 latest build with 3dmark vantage yet again ( i do this with every build i install ) and surprisingly win7 scored higher for the very first time for me !

i attached a screenshot of the result.

note: Vista SP2 installation is 2 weeks old, and i installed W7 the day it leaked(7264). Both OS's are running the latest Intel INF And Catalyst 9.6, funny thing is, W7 runs from a Slow Half Full 750GB and my Vista runs from a 2x 74GB Raptor Raid0 and yet W7 feels faster ^^.

Edited July 3, 2009 by joontje

[FaiKee]

What show-stopper bug was that .. I must have missed something?

ref.

https://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=790466

Note that Brandon had made a remark on it, so decide yourself to buy it or not. :p

[br0adband]

All of these builds are not RTM they are RTM escrow 0r candidates.

Reading comprehension FTW... I never said any current builds/leaked builds are RTM - if you'd read the posts, you'd see that I was making statements about the actual RTM build, not RTM track builds. My comments are specifically targeted at the actual finished Gold RTM build which is now expected to be signed off and finalized on July 13th according to all reports.

Nothing I've said relates to any build prior to that one, which doesn't exist yet.

[Lord Ba'al]

To anybody wondering: There's absolutely no visual changes to this build.

Thought as much. I'll just wait the 10 days left until final Rtm.

[FaiKee]

If what Neowin News said is true(i.e. MSDN release on Jul 13), then like the Beta and RC, we could hope to see it leak by next weekend lol. :hmmm:

btw. wonder if MS would use the RTM as demo on the IT PRO Beta Clasee Jul 7~9??

[funkyblue]

Is there a way to stop the beta version expiring? It's on my laptop and I don't want to have to reinstall, if Win7 goes RTM next weekend...

[The Patri0t]

If what Neowin News said is true(i.e. MSDN release on Jul 13), then like the Beta and RC, we could hope to see it leak by next weekend lol. :hmmm:

btw. wonder if MS would use the RTM as demo on the IT PRO Beta Clasee Jul 7~9??

On a blog, some folks have mentioned that July 10th is set for final gold build and July 13th the RTM so might not appear in the IT PRO Beta Class. RTM candidate build will be seen I guess.

Is there a way to stop the beta version expiring? It's on my laptop and I don't want to have to reinstall, if Win7 goes RTM next weekend...

You should be safe with the RC.

[scaramonga]

7264 ain't RTM. All I need to know :)

[funkyblue]

You should be safe with the RC.

I have the BETA version installed, not the RC version.