[Official] Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2

[Hellacool]

With DM & Seth here. The tube is a joke. It should have an arming range ala BF2.

It does have an arming range. Just like the real thing. 40 rotations and then it is armed (Not sure how the game dictates). If you fire it too close you get nothing, unless you strike the guy directly.

on a side note in the comment which I quoted, you wrote that you had "been there" in the real world, are you implying that you are a soldier or in the army or something along those lines which involves shooting the enemy in buildings? If so, sounds pretty amazing, tell us more!

I choose not too. Not a fan of glorifying war, unless it is digital.

[.KICK]

Noobtubing in this game is highly annoying, especially when you are on a good streak and get killed by someone firing a grenade at you! It is painful to see but I do take it as a compliment that they can't kill me with a gun normally :p

[Spookie]

If you fire it too close you get nothing, unless you strike the guy directly.

The thing flies at what? Over 40MPH as long as he's in your sites when you fire he's dead regardless if you hit his foot.

[Hellacool]

The thing flies at what? Over 40MPH as long as he's in your sites when you fire he's dead regardless if you hit his foot.

Yeah, if he is within arming range he is dead. It is the tuber that runs around with it armed that gets smacked. Runs around a corner and there you are. Nothing he can do but die. Does nothing at close range, just bounces.

[Razorwing]

I love how Harriers can shoot through buildings. :no:

[.KICK]

I love how Harriers can shoot through buildings. :no:

I have not seen that! You sure they are not shooting through the windows/glass in the ceilings/roofs?

[Spookie]

I love how Harriers can shoot through buildings. :no:

Like every kill streak it has a large unrealistic (do they equip frag rounds from L4D2? :p) splash damage.

[+Mystic MVC]

I love how Harriers can shoot through buildings. :no:

Haven't had that happen yet, did you watch the kill cam? The Harriers are pretty adept but I've never seen that.

[Yusuf M. Veteran]

Let's keep things civil here folks. I'm sure many of you are aware of this thread.

[Veedems Veteran]

People who complain about certain weapons being "noob" weapons are simply annoying. Is it frustrating to get killed by a tube? Yes. Do I consider the guy a noob? No. Just like the people who complain about a knifing loadout. The dude (I did it for a while, too since it's fun) is running around with a damn knife and you have a gun. He's not a noob.

Get over it, seriously. Accept the fact that you got killed and plan your attack better next time. The ONLY time I complain is when the lag is so bad that the game is unplayable, other than that, my death is my fault and I need to play better to avoid the issue next time.

[Tech Star]

Farking noobtoobers. :( I hate them SOO much (rocket launcher people also)! :no: They just camp around and shoot at you getting easy kills. I have lost many matches where we have been up like 5600-4100 and they start noobtoobing and we lose the match 6900-7500. :no:

Pathetic way to kill people.

[+Mystic MVC]

People who complain about certain weapons being "noob" weapons are simply annoying. Is it frustrating to get killed by a tube? Yes. Do I consider the guy a noob? No. Just like the people who complain about a knifing loadout. The dude (I did it for a while, too since it's fun) is running around with a damn knife and you have a gun. He's not a noob.

Get over it, seriously. Accept the fact that you got killed and plan your attack better next time. The ONLY time I complain is when the lag is so bad that the game is unplayable, other than that, my death is my fault and I need to play better to avoid the issue next time.

Why have we not teamed up before? I wish my teammates could have that same sensibility...seriously that is awesome.

[Boz]

Farking noobtoobers. :( I hate them SOO much (rocket launcher people also)! :no: They just camp around and shoot at you getting easy kills. I have lost many matches where we have been up like 5600-4100 and they start noobtoobing and we lose the match 6900-7500. :no:

Pathetic way to kill people.

First of all.. you have perks that can protect you from tubes. It's under equipment menu where you have grenades.

It's increased explosion response. It lowers the strength of any launcher so you can survive. Sure, you can't survive 2 hits but gives you a significant boost to fight tubes and alike. If you have people tubing which is perfectly ok, you go and equip a class with that.

There's always a countermeasure in the game except for the stupid care package exploit which is nothing but IW fault and completely ruins the experience.

I can tell you that as bangbang said, I've played with people who have experience playing with tubers and they have this setup with higher damage resistence to explosions (meaning: grenades and launchers) even with danger close. I can tell you that they've killed me many times when I was certain they would die when I hit them but he has the protection and then while I'm slowly reloading the tube he shoots me.

Tube is not for noobs, it just requires a higher skillset from you as a player to counter. You also have 1 man army where you can switch classes on fly if need be.

Try using all of this and you can defeat tubes.

I've had today a few games where on the other side we had a team of people with tubes that were more skilled then we were. Faster reflexes, even tighter aim with it and by the time you hit them with your tube, they kill you.

I know people want their killstreaks and that tubes prevent you to do that.. BUT THAT'S THE DAMN POINT.. ;) I don't want you to get 11 killstreak so you can call in chopper gunner. Play better and smarter and you will have better results even against people with tubes.

Edited January 5, 2010 by Boz

[DrunknMunky Veteran]

None of that has anything to do with noobs who fire the grenades randomly over walls or half way across the map without a target in sight. It's impossible to dodge them when they travel so fast and you aren't even looking the direction they are coming, no matter how fast your reflexes are.

Remember the random grenade video IW made? Yup, applies to noob tube too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXbQjyL2HZU.swf

You gots no skill (N)

[Spookie]

None of that has anything to do with noobs who fire the grenades randomly over walls or half way across the map without a target in sight. It's impossible to dodge them when they travel so fast and you aren't even looking the direction they are coming, no matter how fast your reflexes are.

Those are the ones that kill me. Now since you can either use one man army to restock on ammo or scavenger there is no way to prevent this. :/

[Hellacool]

New topic:

Kill streaks and care packages. Before the patch, anything received in a care package was not supposed to contribute to your kill streak, ie... Predator missile. If you get 2 kills with it, it would not get you closer to your next kill streak. I noticed twice this weekend my care packages were in fact getting me closer to my next kill streak. I have my kill streaks set to: Care package, Pred Missile and Harrier's. Both times I was sniping. Got my care package (3 kills) it was a pred missile, launched and got a 3 kill, Pred missile came up (5 kill), get two more kills with pred and Harrier's came up. I was 8 and 0 and had all my kill streak rewards. Seems like a glitch.

[Spookie]

IW being incompetent developers? WELL I NEVER! ;|

[Boz]

None of that has anything to do with noobs who fire the grenades randomly over walls or half way across the map without a target in sight. It's impossible to dodge them when they travel so fast and you aren't even looking the direction they are coming, no matter how fast your reflexes are.

Remember the random grenade video IW made? Yup, applies to noob tube too.

You gots no skill (N)

That video is a joke. So let's analyze.. Noob is NOT the person who runs around the map like headless chicken, uses only bullets to kill people and is an easy target for you to get killstreaks? Wonderful. Good to know, cause I won't use semtex, grenade launchers, javelins or plant C4 on a domination map because it kills you easier, makes it harder for you to kill me, and you consider it no skill. LOL.

Nobody is tubing blindly.. THEY KNOW you are there.. don't be there and you won't die. This game is so much about intuition and prediction then it is aiming. Learn to live with that. I know exactly where people will go as soon as the match starts. And BAM I send a grenade that way. That's not noob. I know they will be there. So it's a free kill. If you know how to play you would understand that on that MAP EVERYONE rushes there and will get blasted away. It's simple as that.

People need to stop whining about others using the same weapons that are at your disposal.

I certainly won't use pistols or guns YOU want me to so you can get more kills. Sorry, that's not how the world works.

[Sethos]

Let's just agree to disagree and say to those who like it, this game is definitely the perfect one for you (Y)

[DrunknMunky Veteran]

That's the PROBLEM Boz, you don't KNOW I'm there because just as quick as YOU developed your little "tactic" of guessing where I am, I learnt to avoid it and wait for you to WASTE your grenades, rush out and kill you (Y)

Random capitals are pretty annoying huh? Highlighting words which don't need it. English is my first language after all.

and please stop bringing up my skill level, I end up top most games I play. There's plenty of people around Neowin who can vouch for that

Anyway I guess we've gone on about it long enough :p I've not even bothered going back to the game since mid-December. BFBC2 can't come any sooner...

[Boz]

That's the PROBLEM Boz, you don't KNOW I'm there because just as quick as YOU developed your little "tactic" of guessing where I am, I learnt to avoid it and wait for you to WASTE your grenades, rush out and kill you (Y)

Well your tactic doesn't work with launchers. So don't wait there.. Simple eh? Just because you are use to one tactic, doesn't mean we should all just go by what you think will happen so you can kill us ha ha.. We've been all playing this game for a while and being clever and avoiding groups and regular routes is what makes you a good player. Tactic and that will avoid you being tubed. I can't tell you how many times on Karachi, when I start from C, I run out to A and almost always get a triple kill because there's always 3 people waiting there like good little pigeons. On the flip side, I've played with really good players who take a different route, come behind me and kill me before I can even see them. That's what makes you a good player. Another example is predator missile. When someone launches it, you need to run away from the group so you don't get killed. It's all common sense.

As a launcher it's a weapon and a long range at that. It's purpose is to weed out campers and those who wait. It makes you move more and play more intelligently.

As already noted, the tubes are pretty ineffective short range. The reload is slow and if you stumble and misfires are very often occurrence. You have to really be precise to kill someone with unexploded tube. All of this makes the weapon imperfect and definitely beatable.

and please stop bringing up my skill level, I end up top most games I play. There's plenty of people around Neowin who can vouch for that

Well dude, you are the one who calls people noobs. I don't know if I addressed your skill level at all as I have not played with you at all. I just noted what everyone is doing and dying and then crying about tubes.

[Peter Griffin]

None of that has anything to do with noobs who fire the grenades randomly over walls or half way across the map without a target in sight. It's impossible to dodge them when they travel so fast and you aren't even looking the direction they are coming, no matter how fast your reflexes are.

I agree! Bullets travel too fast too, I should be able to dodge those as well!

[x-scratch]

its simple you don't like noob tubers or sneeked up from behind & shanked call of duty is not for you

to boz , i enjoyed your video never seen the gunship in action before

[Razorwing]

Haven't had that happen yet, did you watch the kill cam? The Harriers are pretty adept but I've never seen that.

Yep I sure did watch the kill cam.. I was in the Subase pretty much under cover though I was near a window.. hmmm.. Harriers can bend bullets? lol. When I watched the kill cam.. the bullets went straight through the building to kill me. >.<

[.KICK]

Just played 3rd Person Cage Match for the first time, its pretty damn fun, 1v1 3rd person, can talk to one another (Y)