Opera 10.50 RC for Windows Released

[boobless]

Final version...? ftp://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/win/1050/en/

Build 3296

[Denis W. Veteran]

This is the final?

Come on, not yet... there's still one skin oddity I found; open the source editor to see.

[PreKe]

This is the final?

Come on, not yet... there's still one skin oddity I found; open the source editor to see.

Don't think "oddities" are sufficiently bad to stop a final release at this point :D

This update is for the browser ballot most likely, and those people won't even know how to activate the source editor. And if they do, it will be by accident, and they'll be too busy being confused and lost to notice skin oddities ;)

[Denis W. Veteran]

Fair enough. They also mentioned massive changes to the skin, but when is that coming?

There's also weird behaviour such as maximizing the ghost window from Windows 7's taskbar previews (right click a preview when Opera's restored, select Maximize, and watch what happens).

[~Johnny]

Well I don't notice that much of an oddity on it, heck there's not much skin there anyway =/

For me, I'd be happy to let them send this out, there are no bugs that I've personally noticed, seems A-OK to me;

[ViperAFK]

Final version...? ftp://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/win/1050/en/

Build 3296

Same build as the latest RC in case anyone was wondering.

[tablet_user]

He said the first true browser. :p

ya true browser. lol all BUT IE7 and 8 block all popups without needing addons.

[Quillz]

Wow... RC5 has been released already.

[DavidM]

Yes, they are really churning them out. I think people will soon get tired of constantly downloading and updating, I know I have.

I don't have bugs or problems with the last one RC5 so I decided to mess with Chromuim for a while. :)

[Mike]

The RC5 build is far from final quality tbh

1. Double clicking the tab bar makes the new page not have focus - you need to click in it before you can do anything with it

2. Middle clicking links caches the redirect making the 'getnewpost' style links useless if you've visited them before

3. It crashes when you close a PDF with the Adobe plugin

4. Scrolling quite frankly sucks, fixed backgrounds flicker as you scroll, the progress bar at the bottom flickers upwards and the scrolling is far from smooth.

5. There is the ghost window issue that rm20010 mentioned ^

6. There are also painting issues - some tabs I've left open for a while have images disappear

There are many more issues if you read the Opera blog where the snapshots are released.

[ViperAFK]

The RC5 build is far from final quality tbh

1. Double clicking the tab bar makes the new page not have focus - you need to click in it before you can do anything with it

2. Middle clicking links caches the redirect making the 'getnewpost' style links useless if you've visited them before

3. It crashes when you close a PDF with the Adobe plugin

4. Scrolling quite frankly sucks, fixed backgrounds flicker as you scroll, the progress bar at the bottom flickers upwards and the scrolling is far from smooth.

5. There is the ghost window issue that rm20010 mentioned ^

6. There are also painting issues - some tabs I've left open for a while have images disappear

There are many more issues if you read the Opera blog where the snapshots are released.

I don't have either of these issues. Scrolling in opera is far smoother than firefox with smooth scroll enabled and chrome with smoothscroll extensions.

[ncc50446]

Only thing in Opera that I miss from Firefox is form history...Double click on a text field, and showing what was put in before. It also doesn't seem to remember my passwords...Other than that, loving Opera :)

[Nagisan]

Only thing in Opera that I miss from Firefox is form history...Double click on a text field, and showing what was put in before. It also doesn't seem to remember my passwords...Other than that, loving Opera :)

Opera handles saved passwords a bit differently.....instead of automatically filling them in the form (like Firefox) or offering a saved username/password when you click in a login field (like IE8), it highlights saved password forms. If the username/password boxes are highlighted, you can use simply Ctrl+Enter to instantly enter login info and submit the login form. This allows multiple passwords for the same site to easily be saved, so you have easy access to every account you may have on a specific site (not sure how FF handles multiple passwords on the same site, but IE8, at least by default, overwrites previously saved passwords).

EDIT: And Mike, are you sure the scrolling issues are not due to your computer? I have seen many posts in this thread praising Opera's smoothscrolling when compared to every other browser out there...

[ncc50446]

Opera handles saved passwords a bit differently.....instead of automatically filling them in the form (like Firefox) or offering a saved username/password when you click in a login field (like IE8), it highlights saved password forms. If the username/password boxes are highlighted, you can use simply Ctrl+Enter to instantly enter login info and submit the login form. This allows multiple passwords for the same site to easily be saved, so you have easy access to every account you may have on a specific site (not sure how FF handles multiple passwords on the same site, but IE8, at least by default, overwrites previously saved passwords).

Oh cool! Thank you, I didn't know that, works wonderfully :)

[Nagisan]

Oh cool! Thank you, I didn't know that, works wonderfully :)

Yup its a pretty neat way of handling saved passwords, makes it really easy to keep track of multiple gmail accounts (for example). Agian, not quite sure how FF handles it, but its something I do not think IE8 can do (or at least, not by default). From what I have seen, its definitely my personal favorite way to handle saved passwords.

Hope the full release is soon, been dying to get on the new rendering engine and what not (or, updated at least), but its too much trouble for me to update multiple times a day (and not very good for a SSD, either).

[ViperAFK]

Just mucking around in opera's skin files and its really easy to change icons/buttons and such. Made the menu icon much better looking pretty easily :) All I did was change out the White O image with another more suitable icon I found in the skin folder, and darked it up a but in PS.

[Growled Member]

Opera handles saved passwords a bit differently.....instead of automatically filling them in the form (like Firefox) or offering a saved username/password when you click in a login field (like IE8), it highlights saved password forms. If the username/password boxes are highlighted, you can use simply Ctrl+Enter to instantly enter login info and submit the login form. This allows multiple passwords for the same site to easily be saved, so you have easy access to every account you may have on a specific site (not sure how FF handles multiple passwords on the same site, but IE8, at least by default, overwrites previously saved passwords).

Yeah, Opera is cool this way. Just one of the many things about Opera that I love.

[evo21]

Apparently Opera 10.50 is ready for the ballot screen, as it's already uploaded to the ftp.

http://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/custom/ballot/1050/int/

[Denis W. Veteran]

6. There are also painting issues - some tabs I've left open for a while have images disappear

This too. Sometimes I leave Neowin open long enough in the background, and return to find the logo missing and other weird glitches on the page.

There's also the issue of Facebook name tags not working - again due to browser sniffing (ffs) - it'll work if you mask as Firefox. This isn't the first time Facebook has done this - the arrow keys for flipping through photos used to not work unless you switched the UA.

Oh cool! Thank you, I didn't know that, works wonderfully :)

Yeah about this... I like Opera's way of handing saved passwords better, and for one primary reason: Opera's Wand does not allow you to see or edit the saved passwords stored in the list. For other browsers - Firefox and Chrome especially - other people using your computer and browser to quickly check up on say their email accounts can casually reveal your passwords unless you set a master password (which Wand also allows you to do). Personally I find it a bit of a pain to constantly re-enter a master password just so that others can't see my saved passwords... thus Wand's best for me.

[elantheros]

To be honest, I've never seen Opera release this many RCs with this many bugs before.

The repercussions of the short beta periods are beginning to show, I guess. A frenetic development pace isn't exactly difficult, but when you don't allow enough time for testing so that you can meet artificial deadlines...

[sanctified Veteran]

Is there a way to remove the search bar? Since you can do a google search from the url bar it seems a little redundant

[Pallab]

Rt click on the search bar, from Customize select the option "Remove from toolbar". I have it around as I have quite a few custom search entries and I don't always remember the nickname/keyword for all of them.

[elantheros]

Final version is out.

[sanctified Veteran]

?Rt click on the search bar, from Customize select the option "Remove from toolbar". I have it around as I have quite a few custom search entries and I don't always remember the nickname/keyword for all of them.?

Thanks a lot man :D

[sanctified Veteran]

Just mucking around in opera's skin files and its really easy to change icons/buttons and such. Made the menu icon much better looking pretty easily :) All I did was change out the White O image with another more suitable icon I found in the skin folder, and darked it up a but in PS.

Can we have that icon please? :)