Opera 10.50 RC for Windows Released

[ViperAFK]

Can we have that icon please? :)

http://my.opera.com/community/customize/skins/info/?id=9461

edit: the opera site seems to be having an aneurysm today so here's a mirror, just put the zip in

C:\Users\username\AppData\Roaming\Opera\Opera\skin

http://www.mediafire.com/?nnmz1tjvnzm

[+Audioboxer Subscriber²]

How does Opera deal with tabs? Are they separate instances like Chrome, or everything heaped together under one process like Firefox?

[Mike]

All under one process

[Growled Member]

All under one process

Yeah, but it doesn't seem that big a deal to me either way.

[mattbonner]

Yeah, but it doesn't seem that big a deal to me either way.

agreed

ive had tabs bring down chrome many times before (although im not sure if it was chromes fault or flash's)

[Pallab]

How does Opera deal with tabs? Are they separate instances like Chrome, or everything heaped together under one process like Firefox?

Its under one process and will probably remain that way.

On the per-process model

We actually tried that ten years ago - in Opera for BeOS. The BeOS team were very keen on threading.

We can do that now, but we find f you do things the Google way, you use a lot more memory. It's much more resource-heavy if each page is its own process.

Source

[PreKe]

The RC5 build is far from final quality tbh

There are many more issues if you read the Opera blog where the snapshots are released.

No way! A blog dedicated to posting problems has problems posted! You probably shouldn't even go near Bugzilla then...

To be honest, I've never seen Opera release this many RCs with this many bugs before.

Really? Seems to me that they fixed loads of bugs.

The repercussions of the short beta periods are beginning to show, I guess. A frenetic development pace isn't exactly difficult, but when you don't allow enough time for testing so that you can meet artificial deadlines...

What do you mean "enough time for testing"? All the public snapshots and RCs provided them with massive amounts of testing.

[Pallab]

@PreKe: You just can't ignore the fact that there are still loads of bugs in this release.?

[elantheros]

@PreKe: You just can't ignore the fact that there are still loads of bugs in this release.

"Oh yeah? Watch me, brudda!" :whistle:

[Saint Shiv]

I've never bothered with Opera, it looks sleek... I decided I'm going to give it a try. I hope there's a portable version ::heads to Opera site::

First impression: very very very nice, the UI has a better default UI than Firefox and IE easily. I have to see if I can get lastpass working, and is there a Greasemonkey/Stylish equivalent?

[Elliott]

I've never bothered with Opera, it looks sleek... I decided I'm going to give it a try. I hope there's a portable version ::heads to Opera site::

http://www.opera-usb.com/operausben.htm for the portable version.

[PreKe]

@PreKe: You just can't ignore the fact that there are still loads of bugs in this release.?

There are loads of bugs in all browser releases. It's just the way it works.

[Saint Shiv]

http://www.opera-usb.../operausben.htm for the portable version.

Thanks, I already got it... I'm looking for Flashblock/Adblock/Greasemonkey/Stylish now

[Elliott]

There are loads of bugs in all browser releases. It's just the way it works.

That wins the General Statement of the Year award.

Anyway, so people are only singling out Opera just because? It really just couldn't be because it's actually noticeably buggy?

[elantheros]

There are loads of bugs in all browser releases. It's just the way it works.

And there's also a difference between alpha, beta, and final quality releases. Opera 10.50 final clearly does not fit into the last category.

It's just the way it works.

That wins the General Statement of the Year award.

More like the Useless and Redundant Statement of the Year award.

[Fluxii Media]

And there's also a difference between alpha, beta, and final quality releases. Opera 10.50 final clearly does not fit into the last category.

It's just the way it works.

+1

[x-byte]

Thanks, I already got it... I'm looking for Flashblock/Adblock/Greasemonkey/Stylish now

Adblock/Stylish is integrated in Opera. Not sure about the others.

Anyway, so people are only singling out Opera just because? It really just couldn't be because it's actually noticeably buggy?

Most of the bugs will not get noticed by the majority of its users. Yes, 10.5 was a rushed release, but it is still better than 10.1 no matter what.

And there's also a difference between alpha, beta, and final quality releases. Opera 10.50 final clearly does not fit into the last category.

I used all the snapshots since the first release December 22nd. There is a major difference between the alpha, beta and final. Been running the final for 2 days now with no problems. And I run Opera on my PC 24/7 almost.

[elantheros]

I used all the snapshots since the first release December 22nd. There is a major difference between the alpha, beta and final. Been running the final for 2 days now with no problems. And I run Opera on my PC 24/7 almost.

Good for you. Three cheers. Hip, hip, hurrah. Doesn't change the fact that many other people, myself included, are having problems.

[lassekongo83]

Adblock/Stylish is integrated in Opera. Not sure about the others.

Opera supports similar features from Adblock, Stylish, Greasemonkey, Flashblock (though there's a userscript for that too that makes it even more similar) and Noscript by default. It justs works a bit differently and doesn't share the same names. :p

There's an old list that I usally refer Firefox users to when they ask about an addon they use. - http://my.opera.com/Rijk/blog/2006/07/04/top-150-popular-firefox-extensions-and-opera (click the attached file in the post.) Though the list is old and new features have been added in Opera since then.

[dazhu]

Seems nice, UI is slick now finally BUT some sites still render without rounded corners. This makes me sad.

Rounded corners work with the correct CSS. Those sites are not using the proper rounded corners css codes.

[Fluxii Media]

Good for you. Three cheers. Hip, hip, hurrah. Doesn't change the fact that many other people, myself included, are having problems.

Another +1!! x-byte + PreKe make me want to uninstall Opera from my PC.

[Mike]

Most of the bugs will not get noticed by the majority of its users. Yes, 10.5 was a rushed release, but it is still better than 10.1 no matter what.

I used all the snapshots since the first release December 22nd. There is a major difference between the alpha, beta and final. Been running the final for 2 days now with no problems. And I run Opera on my PC 24/7 almost.

I've used all the snapshots too. The only differences between the pre-alpha / beta builds and the final is less crashing (except PDF related crashes). Facts are there a lot of bugs I see daily in it and some of the bug fixes are stupidly done - see the bug about it crashing if the inline search term began with a space or 2? How was it fixed? They removed the spaces.

All the bugs I mentioned in the previous post were reported many builds ago - way before the RCs started appearing and I *think* before even the first beta.

[x-byte]

Good for you. Three cheers. Hip, hip, hurrah. Doesn't change the fact that many other people, myself included, are having problems.

And it doesn't change the fact many other doesn't have any problems. I understand some have trouble but that's just a fact with applications. Have I said Opera 10.5 is a perfect software? Far from it. I'm just telling you I haven't had any issues at all. Anyone having issues should remove it and delete all files and then do a clean install. That solves 90% av all problems with Opera.

Another +1!! x-byte + PreKe make me want to uninstall Opera from my PC.

Who's stopping you?

I've used all the snapshots too. The only differences between the pre-alpha / beta builds and the final is less crashing (except PDF related crashes). Facts are there a lot of bugs I see daily in it and some of the bug fixes are stupidly done - see the bug about it crashing if the inline search term began with a space or 2? How was it fixed? They removed the spaces.

All the bugs I mentioned in the previous post were reported many builds ago - way before the RCs started appearing and I *think* before even the first beta.

There are many levels of bugs. Some are critical, other not. For a software that went from an pre-alpha to a final product in less than 3 months, i would say this is quite impressive (for a browser). They had a time table that they had to follow. I think the product is good enough for release. As for most software only the complainers are shouting. To me it looks like I can't speak for those who haven't had any problems with 10.5.?

[Lewkwarm]

Is there anyway to set this up for multiple profiles? I know the way to have it with separate shortcuts, but I want something more like the Firefox way of handling it. I want something like this.

I know its a longshot but it doesn't hurt to ask.

[Fluxii Media]

Who's stopping you?

Nothing. That's why I uninstalled it. Maybe when they fix those show-stopping bugs I'll give it another shot. (Show-Stopper Bug: Random images disappearing when tabs left open for a bit)