official Battlefield: Bad Company 2

[ViperAFK]

I read a suggestion on some forum or another that they should import a lot of the BC1 maps. That would save them a lot of time creating maps from scratch. I think it's a good idea, it can't take that much work to update the maps.. just ask IW. :rofl:

I also agree with the lack of maps being this games downfall for me right now. I'm fairly bored of all the maps. I can't count how many times I had to play Arica Harbor this last week, it seemed like every time I joined a server it was that map. Really annoying.

Tried playing the free MW2 weekend for a little variety...noob tubers are way more common in that game than BC2. And the maps are so much smaller it makes the problem about 100x worse. Overall, I'm not impressed. CoD4 was the best game of that series for me.

COD4's triple grenade perk spammers are just as bad as tubers in mw2 :p They are practically the same game only they removed dedi servers in mw2, added some killstreaks/new maps and charges 10$ extra.

[WastedJoker]

isn't the GOL the one hit kill? lol . M24 needs more skill :D. .. M24 ftw. :yes:

M24 and GOL are almost identical except GOL has no sniper sway. They're only one-shot kill in hardcore or if you get a headshot.

Nothing better than tracking someone halfway across the map, drawing a bead on them and BOOM headshot. Love how the head snaps back :D

[Sethos]

Doesn't that describe every MP game out there, though?

How can it when I can play a slew of multiplayer games for months yet I can't with this?

Most multiplayer games will surprise you every time, this doesn't, this is so predictable as to where you might

find snipers, how the matches play out, camping spots etc. it's like playing the same matches over and over because

despite having large maps - There's so many "De facto" tactics that are used EVERY time.

So no, it does not describe every MP game out there.

I also hate how disconnected the feel of shooting someone is, barely feels like you hit someone until they

just die. That is such an important aspect and they failed to capture it completely - That little thing is what

makes you start the game and play for a few rounds, that awesome sensation it is when they get 'killing' just right.

And before everyone gets their knickers all wet - It's a personal opinion and I know I just offended the "Oh holy" BC2

but it's just not fun to play after a month or two and many of my friends agree.

[MrChuang]

If they released some mod tools I'm sure someone would create a Strike at Karland or similar, those maps were amazing. And some of the maps in 2142 were great like Camp Gibraltar. If they released mod tools and let the community do a map contest they could include it in an upcoming patch - I seem to remember they have done that for 2142 if I am remembering correctly.

[Hedon]

I have to agree, gets very repetitive and predictable fast - I stopped playing it as well.

Agreed. More and more people are also feeling that way. I decided to get some additional value out of the game by going back into the little campaign and get the acheevos, all the MCOM stations, and weapons. BTW, anyone who didn't do the game on hard, but wants the "It sucks to be right" aheevo at the end, it's super easy. It is almost the exact same difficulty as on easy, but a tiny bit faster bleed out.

I have to admit, destroying 50 buildings and 1000 objects when not caring about the campaign was fun as heck, especially in a tank.

[Spookie]

Most multiplayer games will surprise you every time, this doesn't, this is so predictable as to where you might

find snipers, how the matches play out, camping spots etc. it's like playing the same matches over and over because

despite having large maps - There's so many "De facto" tactics that are used EVERY time.

So no, it does not describe every MP game out there.

*Points at every other shooter on the market*

[Sethos]

*Points at every other shooter on the market*

Funny enough, at least most other shooters still has the random aspect because players know how to vary things - In this game EVERYTHING is clockwork predictable.

Also because of the size, when players try a new position - Another player will just take their position. In other shooters, it's on a much, much smaller scale thus there isn't enough

players to occupy the 'standard' positions every time. Not to mention, despite having large maps, there aren't many tactical 'decent' positions and the primary ones will just get filled up

every single round. So in the end, you can ALWAYS count on players being on certain positions in every map plus you get so many kills because of it, in the end it's just not fun getting kills anymore

and that's pretty bad in a FPS.

So no, this is not like every other shooter - This is actually the most predictable shooter I've played in years.

And the above is not the only problem with the game, there's so many little niggles I won't go in-depth with because I can't be arsed discussing it on here

but suffice to say, I'm done with the game :)

[Krpano]

Seems a bit over dramatic...

I mean, what exactly would make it more interesting?

Maybe it is, but it's just my opinion.

If you have played the original BF 1942, BF Vietnam and BF2 you would now what i mean by interesting.

Devs have been ruinning game franchises(BFBC2, MW2, OFP2) in the name of "extra" money by creating cross-plataform crap.

Usually they will remove features and decrease the quality of the game.

I got disappointed in these 3 games in which i spent my hard earned money. And i promised it was the last time.

Plus other day i stumbled upon a funny yet interesting article at Cracked.com talking about how the game industry tries to make you addicted and made me think a little about how i spend my free time.

Anyway, i agree with what Sethos says and this is just my point of view.

If you guys still enjoy the game, im happy for you. :)

BTW, my friend abandoned the game after only 2 weeks.

[Spookie]

Also because of the size, when players try a new position - Another player will just take their position. In other shooters, it's on a much, much smaller scale thus there isn't enough players to occupy the 'standard' positions every time.

So your point boils down to this. Fair enough.

Join a server with 24 people. I find it much more enjoyable. :)

[Sethos]

Join a server with 24 people. I find it much more enjoyable. :)

Won't change all the other crap aspects of the game.

[DrunknMunky Veteran]

I knew it was too good to be true that you'd enjoy this game :p

What's on your sights to play next Michael?

[Sethos]

I knew it was too good to be true that you'd enjoy this game :p

What's on your sights to play next Michael?

https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/891156-official-red-dead-redemption/

I'm so looking forward to that game (Y)

[Spookie]

https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/891156-official-red-dead-redemption/

I'm so looking forward to that game (Y)

If you didn't like GTA4 you won't like this.

[Sethos]

If you didn't like GTA4 you won't like this.

You really don't know me, it seems.

[Spookie]

You really don't know me, it seems.

That wasn't aimed at you. It was the over arching comment from the media so far.

edit: Back on-topic - Game needs new maps.

[LingeringSoul]

I have shared it before in this thread, but I am just really into playing Conquest and that is it. I have indeed tried (at the urging of other members), and multiple times in fact, playing Rush mode, and while it is not awful, I just cannot get into playing it for several reasons.

So right now, lack of maps are killing it for me.

Same here, and I think that's sort of aggravating the problem. I tried Rush during the beta, and then again once the game came out and I just can't get into it. It doesn't feel like true Battlefield to me, and you have about a 10% chance of finding a public server that actually has a competent attacking team. So basically I'm left in a situation where I can only play half of the multiplayer maps that the game has to offer, and of those maps, Panama Canal and Atacama Desert are the only standout ones for me (but I'm a sucker for sunny maps, so maybe that has something to do with it).

Though I must say, I really do like Panama Canal. I could probably play on a server that's running just that 24/7. I wonder if such a thing exists.

EDIT: Just tried Arica Harbour on Conquest for the first time today. Pretty good map. Nice to have another desert/urban map to play Conquest on.

Edited April 11, 2010 by LingeringSoul

[Massiveterra]

You really don't know me, it seems.

Enjoy the screen tears and choppy FR of RDR

[Sethos]

Enjoy the screen tears and choppy FR of RDR

I will, thanks.

[Yusuf M. Veteran]

More weapons/maps. Vehicles too, if possible. That'd be awesome. I highly doubt it though. I wonder what's taking them so long with the 2nd map pack. It isn't even a real map pack. All they're doing is adding Rush/Conquest mode to existing maps. :/

[Spookie]

More weapons/maps. Vehicles too, if possible. That'd be awesome. I highly doubt it though. I wonder what's taking them so long with the 2nd map pack. It isn't even a real map pack. All they're doing is adding Rush/Conquest mode to existing maps. :/

Rumor has it, that it's new maps. :)

[WastedJoker]

I only enjoy 3 of the maps so more maps would definitely make life enjoyable.

I partly agree with Sethos on player positioning.

By the way, the map in the BC2 demo is one I've not seen in the full game unless I'm being a mong.

[DrunknMunky Veteran]

More weapons/maps. Vehicles too, if possible. That'd be awesome. I highly doubt it though. I wonder what's taking them so long with the 2nd map pack. It isn't even a real map pack. All they're doing is adding Rush/Conquest mode to existing maps. :/

Yeah fat chance of that happening. Can't think of one BF game that they introduced more vehicles after shipping.

[Slane]

at least most other shooters still has the random aspect because players know how to vary things

Everything your saying is still describing every MP game out there. Examples please. I'm really curious as to what games you find less predictable than this.

They'll add more maps. I don't see anything wrong with any of the current maps and I'm definitely not bored due to the maps. I'm bored, because I can't ever get a squad together. :(

[Sethos]

Everything your saying is still describing every MP game out there. Examples please. I'm really curious as to what games you find less predictable than this.

Then you fail to understand my point and I'd be wasting my time.

[Slane]

Then you fail to understand my point and I'd be wasting my time.

Or you fail at properly describing your point and providing examples.

I enjoy BC2 more than any MP I've played in the past year or so and I really would like to know why someone doesn't. A real reason, not just some babble claiming your point is perfectly clear, but yet not willingly to provide one example to help those who fail to see your logic.

Does BC2 have Snipers? Yup as do all MP games.

Does BC2 have Campers? Yup as do all MP games.

Does BC2 have maps that are repeated, depending on the game type your playing? Yup as do all MP games.

Does BC2 have less maps and game types than other games? Yup, but does that make it bad?

Does BC2 have people using strategy in a specific way as it's proved to be the "best" way? Yup as do all MP games.