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I just hope that by introducing all these new engines and features (Tab Candy, etc) it's not going to start unnecessarily initiating the discrete GPU in the new 2010 MacBook Pros. As of right now, only Firefox and Safari stick with the integrated graphics (as they should) regardless of what sites you load. Chrome and Opera load the discrete Nvidia GPU every time Flash is initiated for some reason.

Here's hoping...

I just hope that by introducing all these new engines and features (Tab Candy, etc) it's not going to start unnecessarily initiating the discrete GPU in the new 2010 MacBook Pros. As of right now, only Firefox and Safari stick with the integrated graphics (as they should) regardless of what sites you load. Chrome and Opera load the discrete Nvidia GPU every time Flash is initiated for some reason.

Here's hoping...

It might, they're aiming to render the entire interface via OpenGL.

Flash attempts to use the graphics card for rendering now, and it'll go down that path in Firefox 4 (and Safari as well actually, but it might be special casing that or something)

It might, they're aiming to render the entire interface via OpenGL.

Flash attempts to use the graphics card for rendering now, and it'll go down that path in Firefox 4 (and Safari as well actually, but it might be special casing that or something)

It should if you are on ac power. On battery it should be smart and not. Thats it.

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Sunspider. FF 4.0b5 vs. MF 4.0b6pre. MF is the fastest one, though I don't really know whether the score is good or not.

Also, my gcard driver keeps crashing when I use the lastest MF build. Everything freeze, and sometimes it turns into a bluescreen. I haven't had this problem with the normal FF, or FF 4.0b5.

Anyone got a clue?

On a bottom note. Hi guys, just regged. Awesome board :)

Mike Beltzner wrote:

An update: the JagerMonkey team informs me that they hope to merge either later today or tomorrow.

Some benchmarks from various MOZILLA sources

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Source : http://www.bailopan.net/blog/?p=768

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v8-firefox.pngv8-all.png

Source : http://blog.mozilla.com/rob-sayre/2010/09/09/js-benchmarks-closing-in/

Yeah i understand that the browsers used in 2nd test are pretty old , but still we kinda get a rough idea seeing WebKit Sep 8 build and Opera 10.61.

I am loving this! They are now left with 3 more MAJOR optimizations , which will give us another great boost :D

The rockin? doesn?t stop here. Right now we?re polishing off the final pieces to get into the next Firefox 4.0 Beta. At the same time, here are some of the immediate performance works-in-progress:

  1. Function Calls. As discussed previously, this is one of our last big areas of optimization. The first of four major pieces, caching call sequences, was completed this week. The second big chunk, which Luke Wagner has slated for this week, will make arguments and stack frames faster. Brian Hackett, Chris Leary, and Bill McCloskey have more stack frame optimizations as part of the third wave.
  2. Tracer Integration. Deciding when to use the turbo button is pretty hard, but Bill and Dave have been researching it thoroughly. Right now we?re just scratching the surface, and we will have much better heuristics by the end of the month.
  3. Web Optimizations. Community member Jan de Mooij is continually finding demos and real-world tools and improving performance ?gotchas? in our engine, like making common arithmetic patterns faster.

Good to see J?gerMonkey got landed, and it's also nice to see box-shadow got updated to the latest spec (no one browser did it the same)

border-radius got some love as well, but I think it's still prefixed (not sure why honestly if box-shadow isn't)

Coool! How do we know JM is present in a build? is there something in about:config?

Yep.

javascript.options.methodjit.chrome;false <--- JM

javascript.options.methodjit.content;true <--- JM

javascript.options.tracejit.chrome;true <--- TM

javascript.options.tracejit.content;true <--- TM

Is there a Way to make the firefox color from Gray like this to Blue like this without using the default Windows 7 Theme. I am using Soft 7.

Use this code and change #XXXXXX type colours to blue (This site will help u http://www.w3schools...olorpicker.asp)

/* Gradient Changes */



#TabsToolbar &gt; .toolbarbutton-1:not(#alltabs-button):not(#new-tab-button) {

 -moz-appearance: none !important;

 margin: 0 !important;

 padding: 0 !important;

 background-repeat: no-repeat !important;

 background-size: 200% !important;

 -moz-border-image: url("chrome://browser/skin/tabbrowser/tab.png") 4 5 3 6 / 4px 5px 3px 6px !important;

 -moz-border-radius: 10px 8px 0 0 !important;

}



.tabbrowser-tab:not([selected="true"]),

.tabs-newtab-button,

#TabsToolbar &gt; .toolbarbutton-1:not(#alltabs-button):not(#new-tab-button) {

 background-position: -5px -2px!important;

 background-image: -moz-linear-gradient(top,#F2F2F2,

 rgba(242,242,242,0)),

 -moz-linear-gradient(bottom, rgba(0,0,0,0.7) 30%, rgba(0,0,0,0) 75%) !important;

}



.tabbrowser-tab:not([selected="true"])[tabsontop="true"]:hover,

.tabs-newtab-button:hover,

#TabsToolbar &gt; .toolbarbutton-1:not(#alltabs-button):not(#new-tab-button):hover {

 background-image: -moz-linear-gradient(top, #E8E8E8,

 rgba(100,100,100,.8)),

 -moz-linear-gradient(bottom, rgba(0,0,0,.8) 40%, rgba(0,0,0,0) 60%) !important;

}



.tabbrowser-tab:not([selected="true"])[tabsontop="true"] {

 text-shadow: 0 1px 0 rgba(255,255,255,0.3) !important;

}



#navigator-toolbox &gt; toolbar:not(#TabsToolbar):not(#toolbar-menubar) {

 background-image: -moz-linear-gradient(top, #F2F2F2,#C4C4C4),

 -moz-linear-gradient(bottom, #C4C4C4, #F2F2F2) !important;

}



#navigator-toolbox[tabsontop="true"] .tabbrowser-tab[selected="true"] {

 background-image: -moz-radial-gradient(center bottom, #E8E8E8, rgba(178,178,178,0) 0%),

 -moz-linear-gradient(left, transparent, transparent 1px,

 rgba(255,255,255,.5) 1px, rgba(255,255,255,.5)),

 -moz-linear-gradient(left, transparent, transparent 1px,#E8E8E8 1px, #E8E8E8) !important;

}


Anyone else having trouble with nightlies after 9/9?

Addons cannot be updated after that. When I try to update an addon it's not working after restart and when I click setup button on addon Firefox freezes.

Yep.

javascript.options.methodjit.chrome;false <--- JM

javascript.options.methodjit.content;true <--- JM

javascript.options.tracejit.chrome;true <--- TM

javascript.options.tracejit.content;true <--- TM

I have just

javascript.options.jit.chrome;true

javascript.options.jit.content;true

anyone else unable to install any addons in the latest nightly build? I keep getting a message about corrupt addons no matter what addon i try to install.

Anyone else having trouble with nightlies after 9/9?

Addons cannot be updated after that. When I try to update an addon it's not working after restart and when I click setup button on addon Firefox freezes.

I had the exact same problem, and started a topic on it..

This is why https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/Planning/2010-09-01#Firefox_4_Beta_6 I'm back on Beta 5.

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