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:blink: Thanks for the info. I've been wondering for the longest time why you're not a subscriber...

I know it's been said over and over again, but subscribing is an option. You're not being forced to do it. Also, as has already been said, the point of subscribing is to support the forum, the perks are just that: a small thank you for your support.

If you don't like the way things are going, you could always find somewhere else. But every time I've tried somewhere new, I keep coming back to Neowin. Much the same as you seem to show in your OP. If you had found somewhere better then you wouldn't come back here, would you? At least, that's what your post seems to be saying to me.

Sad world we live in. As a hobby open source progammer, I have had my own first hand experiences with the issue, even that my scale is smaller and my work that is publicly available contain just plugins for some cms.

Anyhow, even that some service is free, or something is open source, doesn't mean that the development or servers are free. Oddest thing is that if you put donate link to too visible spot, you get hate mails that complain for asking donations, and obviously if the link isn't noticable, then you won't get any donations. Probably even neowin staff gets some unrespectful PMs and such.

Then the freeloaders wonder why the server has been shut down. If you spam the server and use gigs of bandwidth every month, what do you except is going to happen.

I believe myself that even if something is free, you should still support the individuals that are doing all the work, if you using the service or finding it useful. It's not really justified that they should do all the work and after that pay the costs themselves.

But hey, it's not that ppl use free services because they want to contribute. No. They do it because it's cheap.

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I've subscribe twice now and I understand what you're saying. If you were newbie I would've shoved your post up you something. But since you're 6800 post in and you should understand what Neowin exactly is.

The subscriber part was meant to support this forum where lazy a** like rappy can spend the eternal life posting crap. It looks like you?re feeling guilty of not giving something back to the community you?ve spend last 6 years, the community isn?t forcing you they?ll accept you if you just sthu with rants like the one you did.

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I've subscribe twice now and I understand what you're saying. If you were newbie I would've shoved your post up you something. But since you're 6800 post in and you should understand what Neowin exactly is.

The subscriber part was meant to support this forum where lazy a** like rappy can spend the eternal life posting crap. It looks like you?re feeling guilty of not giving something back to the community you?ve spend last 6 years, the community isn?t forcing you they?ll accept you if you just sthu with rants like the one you did.

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[...] i was wondering if my yearly subscription fee could go towards an ignore feature so we can all ignore his posts and make him even more irrelevant than he already is

As far as I am aware, the ignore feature is still there? There at least used to be one when we were using IPB 2 and I imagine it's still there, but I can't find it; perhaps it's been turned off for moderators :p

I guess Neowin could just do away with the Free memberships then ?

I doubt they are in a profit from ads, and keeping up such a good site AND paying staff is not cheap, I wouldnt be surprised if they are just breaking even

The site would absolutly die after abouit 30 days. Sites like this will ALWAYS break even. The more they make the more they need to spend, thus breaking even...

I like that you say what you actually feel, most people don't and that can make a forum boring. :)

Decent posts make Neowin a forum, the rest is a waste of time but I guess it has its uses when it comes to financial support and the need for supremacy online.

I really don't see the whole point of this thread. I don't donate to Neowin because of the extras. I donate to Neowin because my internet experience is not the same without this place. Plain and simple.

When I subscribe, I do it for the benefits. I did it to show my support, and the ability remove ads legitimately just sounded too good to pass up.

To the OP, why do you expect Neowin to operate like the other forums you visit? I think your attitude like Neowin owes YOU something is highly disrespectful.

EDIT: Updated post since I just resubscribed.

Why do people feel so damn entitled?

As a internet marketer for 2 and a half years , I can say with confidence it is because of the community,the people are what bring the people back, continuing direct benefits to each individual(from user input ) builds a continuing relationship and will develop strong loyalty from the user, and the user will then feel entitled after these events take place,such as someone does a favor for you,if your moral is good, then your going to of course want to return the favor back..

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Subscribing isn't about the perks it is about donating money to keep Neowin operational. That is why I not only subscribe but I have also donated separately and will continue to donate again and again. The no-ads are just a bonus.

Well said...? (Y)

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