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Ugh, just read about another let down. No livery editor :( That was on the top of my list as well. Oh well.

Can't have them all, I suppose. It'll probably be in GT6. Kaz would want to make it really really good, instead of putting a half-baked version in to make the deadline.

Still, most of the custom liveries they have on the special cars are lovely.

Can't have them all, I suppose.

Indeed not. Still was a dream of mine. Imagine the livery pics at 18mp that people could make. w00t.gif

Indeed. Then again, there wasn't much there. This will indeed be a PS3 GOTY contender.

man i cannot wait to play it! :) i wonder will there be any integration with the Prologue? I have some stuff unlocked there :)

you can import your garage from Prologue, but they will only be unlocked for use in Arcade mode.

you can import your garage from Prologue, but they will only be unlocked for use in Arcade mode.

You sure? In GT4, you could import like $80,000 CR into simulation mode if you had a GT3 game save...so I'd imagine that we'd have a better perk then unlocking cars in Arcade Mode...

You sure? In GT4, you could import like $80,000 CR into simulation mode if you had a GT3 game save...so I'd imagine that we'd have a better perk then unlocking cars in Arcade Mode...

I'm pretty sure you might be able to, but Kaz hasn't detailed everything just yet about this feature.

you can import your garage from Prologue, but they will only be unlocked for use in Arcade mode.

Don't forget there is some kind of integration with GT PSP as well :)

You sure? In GT4, you could import like $80,000 CR into simulation mode if you had a GT3 game save...so I'd imagine that we'd have a better perk then unlocking cars in Arcade Mode...

That depends on who you ask, GT purists generally disliked the additional money you got from having a GT3 save game and were pretty vocal about it if I recall. Polyphony do listen too, GT5 wasn't going to have damage at all but the NA GT fans were not happy and got very vocal about it, Polyphony listened. So it's possible that to appease the GT fans they removed the cash bonus and just made it extra cars for arcade. Take what I say with a grain of salt though!

Don't forget there is some kind of integration with GT PSP as well :)

That depends on who you ask, GT purists generally disliked the additional money you got from having a GT3 save game and were pretty vocal about it if I recall. Polyphony do listen too, GT5 wasn't going to have damage at all but the NA GT fans were not happy and got very vocal about it, Polyphony listened. So it's possible that to appease the GT fans they removed the cash bonus and just made it extra cars for arcade. Take what I say with a grain of salt though!

yeah i feel that i don't need the extra cash cause it ruins the grind in the career mode, but some will complain cause of not having bonus starting credits.

Extra cash is good. It just saves you from buying a cheap POS and racing the same slow races again and again while you try to build up money. I loved starting off with a M3 :p

and that is exactly why the hardcore fans kicked a stink about it! they argued that part of the "fun" of the game was starting with a POS car and working hard to earn your first decent one, so when you got it you appreciated it more. While I agree with them on principle, back in GT3 days I remember spending ages with my crappy 1980's Mazda MX-5 racing the same races over and over so I could afford to upgrade it to enter it in higher races (that made more money) to save up for a better car, when I finally had the money to get it there was a sense of achievement and occasion when I purchased it :) However, these days I just don't have the time to spend hours upon hours with a crappy car trying to earn a decent one :p which is why if they do offer a cash bonus I will definitely be using it! but I can understand why the hardcores don't like it.

Can't wait to finally play a racer where I can properly work my way up, instead of having everything handed to me.

Also, how does it work with the photos you take in-game, can you throw 'em on a USB stick and get it on the PC or do they have an upload service?

Also, how does it work with the photos you take in-game, can you throw 'em on a USB stick and get it on the PC or do they have an upload service?

Best guess is they'll go onto a USB stick, as they'll be fairly big uploads if they're 18MP images.

I know they let you hook up a printer to the PS2 to print off photos in GT4.

Can't wait to finally play a racer where I can properly work my way up, instead of having everything handed to me.

Also, how does it work with the photos you take in-game, can you throw 'em on a USB stick and get it on the PC or do they have an upload service?

yes you can, by saving the photos to the PS3 hard drive you can then copy them to any USB storage device or upload them, the game Ferrari Challenge had this same feature.

yes you can, by saving the photos to the PS3 hard drive you can then copy them to any USB storage device or upload them, the game Ferrari Challenge had this same feature.

Sweet, thanks - Can't wait to upload a heap of photos.

We should have a separate thread from the inevitable official thread for pictures only (Y)

At least it looks like we'll be able to upload high quality photos - Unlike Forza 3, all those ugly ass compressed and resized photos.

Now i wanna see rain on the ring at night, now that's gonna be epic.

Should be (Y)

It's all the small touches in games I love, really add a feeling of being immersed. It's overlooked in so many games, Read Dead Redemption was the last game I played I felt it was done well.

It's like yeah a bump mapped hub cap is completely over the top, but in 18MP photomode I'm going to spend a decent bit of time just taking pictures of engine shots and other random crap for my own pleasure.

All the videos of GT5 from Gamescom are embarrassing though, people just think you can hold the throttle down and drive laugh.gif So many spin outs and epic failing. All the videos of the Zonda from above basically consist of noobs spinning out on every corner.

and that is exactly why the hardcore fans kicked a stink about it! they argued that part of the "fun" of the game was starting with a POS car and working hard to earn your first decent one, so when you got it you appreciated it more. While I agree with them on principle, back in GT3 days I remember spending ages with my crappy 1980's Mazda MX-5 racing the same races over and over so I could afford to upgrade it to enter it in higher races (that made more money) to save up for a better car, when I finally had the money to get it there was a sense of achievement and occasion when I purchased it :) However, these days I just don't have the time to spend hours upon hours with a crappy car trying to earn a decent one :p which is why if they do offer a cash bonus I will definitely be using it! but I can understand why the hardcores don't like it.

Man, I am old. I go back to the GT1 days. I spend way too much time exercising my thumbs laugh.gif. They could just make it optional. Give us hardcore fans the option to start out with a POS Prius, and then those that might be more casual or have less time could start out with that M3. Who knows, maybe that will be happening.

At least it looks like we'll be able to upload high quality photos - Unlike Forza 3, all those ugly ass compressed and resized photos.

Agreed. It's really too bad because the photos looked amazing on screen. Once they hit forzamotorsport.net, they were taken through a car crusher :(

18 (Megapixels) WARNING!, EXTREME OUT OF THIS WORLD DETAIL

BMW

Alfa Romeo

Lamborghini Miura Rim

Ferrari 330P4

Jaguar XJ13

Ford GT40) MARK IV

Are you sure the BMW isn't a real shot? Seriously, the fenders look too smooth...if it is real, this is all essentially because of the amazing lighting system the PD guys and gals have created. When you zoom in on the Ford you can clearly tell it's a game but zoom out and my god it looks so real. Still analyzing the BMW.

Are you sure the BMW isn't a real shot? Seriously, the fenders look too smooth...if it is real, this is all essentially because of the amazing lighting system the PD guys and gals have created. When you zoom in on the Ford you can clearly tell it's a game but zoom out and my god it looks so real. Still analyzing the BMW.

It's quite easy to see it's a rendered shot, look at everything that's supposed to be perfect circular, it has loads of bumps and jaggies because drawing a perfect circle requires loads of wireframes.

Biggest tell tale sign in 3D vs Real-life.

Are you sure the BMW isn't a real shot? Seriously, the fenders look too smooth...if it is real, this is all essentially because of the amazing lighting system the PD guys and gals have created. When you zoom in on the Ford you can clearly tell it's a game but zoom out and my god it looks so real. Still analyzing the BMW.

It's real, I'd happily go as far as saying PD have created the best lighting engine on a console this generation - It's easily what separates this game from everything else.

In case you didn't know, Photomode has an array of options

Photo Travel:

http://imgur.com/Xi9vr.jpg

http://imgur.com/DSxDH.jpg

http://imgur.com/GxXAg.jpg

http://imgur.com/11Cx2.jpg

http://imgur.com/IHRMh.jpg

http://imgur.com/Yp6YA.jpg

http://imgur.com/Z1bfz.jpg

Look at all those pictures, you can heavily modify the shots you take.

It's quite easy to see it's a rendered shot, look at everything that's supposed to be perfect circular, it has loads of bumps and jaggies because drawing a perfect circle requires loads of wireframes.

Biggest tell tale sign in 3D vs Real-life.

For me, on a 1440x900 screen, I have to zoom in to see that those aren't perfectly rounded.

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