PS3 finally hacked?

[rajputwarrior]

Wow!

Why would you want Sony to lose the battle against piracy? You realise that it's not just Sony that will get hit hard by this? There are lots of smaller developers that don't have massive budgets and possibly saw the PS3 as the better option to release stuff on due to the unlikelyhood of piracy denting sales.

Some peoples hatred towards the bigger corporations is so blinkered at times :(

Did I say I encouraged piracy anywhere?

[AbandonedTrolley]

Its not just piracy the devices are going to be used for ...

Did I say I encouraged piracy anywhere?

I realise you didn't, but rest assured as mentioned this will be used for piracy and that WILL impact sales. If you say you will use it solely for homebrew then great, but not everyone in the world will use this exploit for such things.

[Soulsiphon]

Did I say I encouraged piracy anywhere?

You didn't say exactly that, but yeah, the "I hope Sony loses this battle hard" indicates your support of the hackers (and eventually) pirates efforts. Have some balls and stand up for your convictions rather than making a bold statement then running like a beat dog under the car.

[Azusa]

Its not just piracy the devices are going to be used for ... :rolleyes:

Do i have to use the Gunpowder analogy again?

[+Audioboxer Subscriber²]

If you have the cash and XMCB is ported it is indeed awesome (second PS3), but if we're all going to lose access to online and gaming related updates, it's pretty sucky for the normal gamer.

GT5 without online will be tough one to sit out for fans, as will Killzone 3 and LBP 2.

[presence06]

If you have the cash and XMCB is ported it is indeed awesome (second PS3), but if we're all going to lose access to online and gaming related updates, it's pretty sucky for the normal gamer.

GT5 without online will be tough one to sit out for fans, as will Killzone 3 and LBP 2.

Agreed. If you can "Hack" the system and are able to rent the game and rip it to your console cool. But if you lose the ability to play online for games like that or even the new CoD or MoH, there's a big issue. I wouldn't dish out $150 to lose playing online with people.

[Rudy]

I personally don't really care about online :/

[+Audioboxer Subscriber²]

I personally don't really care about online :/

Games get updates from online as well, then there's DLC and the store...

Unless the hacks can be stealth and/or allow your firmware to stay up to date you really do castrate your system from a gaming perspective.

[AbandonedTrolley]

Games get updates from online as well, then there's DLC and the store...

Unless the hacks can be stealth and/or allow your firmware to stay up to date you really do castrate your system from a gaming perspective.

I agree that you are missing out on some things, but the people that do this will see it as the benefits outweigh the losses. Simple fact really.

[+Audioboxer Subscriber²]

I agree that you are missing out on some things, but the people that do this will see it as the benefits outweigh the losses. Simple fact really.

Not so sure, as well known the 360 can connect online for multiplayer and hard drives can be swapped easily between consoles (online/offline for game saves/achievement updating) when modded.

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Q&A from Mathieulh

Mathieulh, self-proclaimed hacker and member of the PSGroove team has answered a number of questions that Maxconsole members sent his way. The questions answered range from various hot topics such ashomebrew on the PS3 and whether Dark_Alex has made an attempt to get back into the 'scene'. So keep reading if you want to check out the Q&A session that you helped contribute to. If you're question didn't get though this time, don't worry there will be plenty more time to ask questions at a later date!

Can Sony block this remarkable achievement? If yes, on how much time?

Yes they can, it has probably been blocked on the 3.42 firmware already.

Will this help to install Linux on the PS3 again and use the full power (graphics chip)?

You'd still need proper drivers to use the RSX, this could still help replacing lv2 by a linux kernel though.

For my question ...What was the reason you and youre team decided to disable backups and from you re knowledge is it possible to make a homebrew that enables images to be ran from an external source ?

We decided to disable backups from our sources because we do not endorse piracy under any circumstances. I don't get the meaning of the second question, what do you mean by "images" ?

I have to ask though, how long before we see homebrew on the system and maybe a port of XBMC? Also, how easy is it to say restore Other OS (or similar) using this and will Sony be able to ban you online for its use even if it's not connected (assuming they don't block it in a system software update)?

I can't really answer that considering we are not handling any kind of XBMC port ourselves, XBMC is open sourced though so it's up to everyone to contribute. Restoring Other OS (as it was before 3.21) would require downgrading because we can't patch lv1 which had otheros support removed. Downgrading is however technically doable. Sony can (bot I am not sure they will) ban you online at any time they see fit, they have ways to detect what titles you run on your console upon login and playing, they might also have ways we don't know of, it is safer not using your console online with this hack.

I am also wondering about this. I also wonder if a footprint is left, will it be left on the PS3 console itself so no matter which PSN account you use, it will be detected? Also, do you think it is possible for Sony to brick a PS3 if they detect the PSJailbreak running?

I can't talk about other firmwares but on 3.41 upon logging into the playstation network, the list of the last played title ids are sent to Sony's servers.

My real question is, once you are done your top priorities, will you enable the PSGroove to work using a PSP? (Since you did mention that it is possible).

It's being worked on by someone in the group, but we can't give any guarantees.

Is there any chance the team (or someone else) could set up an online, central, trustable, self-updater? Like the wii equivalents.

For now, not a chance.

Have you been in contact with DaX, and if so, what are his thoughts on the latest exploit? Has he expressed any interest in tackling the ps3?

I rather not speak on his behalf, if he wants to speak up, I am quite sure he will.

Will it be possible to convert a retail PS3 into a fully functional Devkit/Tool capable of running the official SDK utilities (ProDG Debugger, Target Manager, Gpad, etc).? Without such tools it will be difficult to quickly develop homebrew applications for people who don't have access to debug kits.

I rather not discuss the future additions to the ps3groove for now, the less said, the less people will bug us about such features, and the less pressure it'll get on us.

http://www.maxconsole.net/content.php?42122-Mathieulh-answers-your-questions-about-hacking-the-PS3

[Rudy]

Games get updates from online as well, then there's DLC and the store...

Unless the hacks can be stealth and/or allow your firmware to stay up to date you really do castrate your system from a gaming perspective.

I've had a PSP since launch and never ever took it online... I used to get my firmware updates from the games I bought (until I installed a CFW for homebrew)

[sn00pie]

Mind as well update...I only bought my Ps3 to play GT5 online. :p

[still1]

Agreed. If you can "Hack" the system and are able to rent the game and rip it to your console cool. But if you lose the ability to play online for games like that or even the new CoD or MoH, there's a big issue. I wouldn't dish out $150 to lose playing online with people.

i think u are not updated... It only require $24 to hack PS3 now....

people will buy a used ps3 for $150 and hack it to play games that dont have online gameplay like Heavy Rain,Uncharted,DarkSector,GOW1,2,3 etc...

I can save some money on those games and use that to buy used ps3.

[+Audioboxer Subscriber²]

i think u are not updated... It only require $24 to hack PS3 now....

people will buy a used ps3 for $150 and hack it to play games that dont have online gameplay like Heavy Rain,Uncharted,DarkSector,GOW1,2,3 etc...

I can save some money on those games and use that to buy used ps3.

Some pretty crappy bugs in those games in v1.0.

[AbandonedTrolley]

Some pretty crappy bugs in those games in v1.0.

You're forgetting the mentality of the 'pirate' it's free, they get to play for free, they don't care too much about a couple of bugs.

[Azusa]

You're forgetting the mentality of the 'pirate' it's free, they get to play for free, they don't care too much about a couple of bugs.

oh but they do care they want it free and perfect it's the something for nothing generation at it's best.

[Rudy]

Some pretty crappy bugs in those games in v1.0.

Unfortunately that's the problem with today's console games... back then I'd say there was a lot more QA done before releasing a game and the was some bugs but nothing major...but now they ship "buggy" games knowing they'll patch it later

[Hedon]

RichDev on Twitter:

Oh no he didn't :o

:wub:

Hells yeah.

[rajputwarrior]

You didn't say exactly that, but yeah, the "I hope Sony loses this battle hard" indicates your support of the hackers (and eventually) pirates efforts. Have some balls and stand up for your convictions rather than making a bold statement then running like a beat dog under the car.

Never said I supported pirates efforts. Wanna throw more false words into the argument?

[still1]

Some pretty crappy bugs in those games in v1.0.

If the hackers could copy file from disk to HDD they would be able to copy the update file from HDD to external HDD.

Just have to wait till they figure that out.

[CentralDogma]

If the hackers could copy file from disk to HDD they would be able to copy the update file from HDD to external HDD.

Just have to wait till they figure that out.

An ftp client now exists

[Piggy]

There's a simple App with a GUI for the N900. It's crazy how simplified this has become.

It will be interesting to see how they deal with the new firmware update. :cool:

[AbandonedTrolley]

There's a simple App with a GUI for the N900. It's crazy how simplified this has become.

It will be interesting to see how they deal with the new firmware update.

It certainly is simple, was a case of just flashing a 150kb file on my Desire, have since updated firmware as I was just doing it more for experiment than to pirate. Wanted to see how it worked. :)

[+Audioboxer Subscriber²]

It certainly is simple, was a case of just flashing a 150kb file on my Desire, have since updated firmware as I was just doing it more for experiment than to pirate. Wanted to see how it worked. :)

Did you install the backup launcher? It leaves traces on the PS3. Would be pretty ****ty if you got banned now :(