Mac OS X Lion Discussion

[Chlorpromazine]

Full-screen can come in handy for iPhoto or Photoshop (which we'll see feature support for in CS8), when you need to eliminate distractions and dedicate as much space as possible to your image.

Please God, no. I already hate the ridiculous Acrobat X interface, I really don't see how a CS software can be productive in full screen.

[PyX]

Please God, no. I already hate the ridiculous Acrobat X interface, I really don't see how a CS software can be productive in full screen.

Well picture editing and video editing applications are the most useful ones in fullscreen. Other ones, well, it’s good that they have the feature, but it’s not too handy indeed.

Browsing in fullscreen isn’t necessary, but it’s just cool in general to see websites in fullscreen :p

Can someone tell me the advantages of the Launch Pad over a stack containing all the Applications? I’ve never really understood, is it just for the sake of having a fullscreen stack ?

[Chlorpromazine]

Well picture editing and video editing applications are the most useful ones in fullscreen. Other ones, well, it’s good that they have the feature, but it’s not too handy indeed.

Maybe it's because I work in a dual monitor environment, like many other.

Can someone tell me the advantages of the Launch Pad over a stack containing all the Applications? I’ve never really understood, is it just for the sake of having a fullscreen stack ?

Yeah, I can't stand launchpad neither. But I guess it's a feature we can just ignore and live without.

[PyX]

Maybe it's because I work in a dual monitor environment, like many other.

So what you probably have is Photoshop on one screen, maximized :laugh:

Fullscreen apps won’t change so many things for you.

Yeah, I can't stand launchpad neither. But I guess it's a feature we can just ignore and live without.

It’s not that I can’t stand it, it’s just that I don’t see why they created this just for applications, didn’t merge it with the Stacks features instead.

I’d prefer having what I will call a Full Screen Stack. No need for something so fancy, exclusively for applications, because it’s a lot of development and I see little but no gain at the moment.

[protocol7]

I think the idea with Launchpad is you can organise the icons any way you like. You can have an "Internet" folder with all your internet apps without having to move them into an Internet subfolder of the Applications folder.

I was quite cynical about Launchpad at first but it sounds quite useful. I just haven't had a chance to give it some proper time yet.

The only app I ran fullscreen in Tiger and Snow was Traktor (DJ software). Partly because I didn't need access to anything else at the time and also to make the most of the relatively small screen area. If you have a 27" iMac fullscreen apps may seem less useful but if you have a 12" or 13.3" screen then every little helps.

[Stetson]

Can someone tell me the advantages of the Launch Pad over a stack containing all the Applications? I’ve never really understood, is it just for the sake of having a fullscreen stack ?

It lets you organize into folders without actually moving the applications around in the file system. If you've ever tried to sort your apps into category folders you might have noticed that this does not work well at all for apps like iTunes and Safari that expect to be in directly in /Applications/.

[Simon Veteran]

Apple also included an Applications folder in the user's home directory in Lion - Launchpad will pull in apps from across your hard drive and let you organize them into "meta folders."

[Allis]

Apple also included an Applications folder in the user's home directory in Lion - Launchpad will pull in apps from across your hard drive and let you organize them into "meta folders."

Am I the only one who thinks that the user-specific Applications folder is where apps downloaded from the Mac App Store will be placed in Lion, instead of being system-wide... or maybe youll be given a choice on install...hmm

[protocol7]

Am I the only one who thinks that the user-specific Applications folder is where apps downloaded from the Mac App Store will be placed in Lion, instead of being system-wide... or maybe youll be given a choice on install...hmm

That would make a lot of sense. Especially considering the newly-added recovery functionality. If you hosed up your system you could boot into the recovery environment, install a fresh system and leave your apps untouched. Like an archive and install, but without the archiving.

[mattm591]

That would make a lot of sense. Especially considering the newly-added recovery functionality. If you hosed up your system you could boot into the recovery environment, install a fresh system and leave your apps untouched. Like an archive and install, but without the archiving.

More than that it could potentially make a lot of financial sense to Apple.

Sally and Bob share their Mac, Bob buys an App but Sally can't use it on her account unless she buys it again herself!

[team_NOOB]

Does anyone have some more photos of the mail app?

From the screens on the the front page news it looked horrible :(

[mdtaUK]

Can anyone confirm if the x2 art resources for the UI and Buttons etc are in Lion already. It seems some of the double size icons are present...

[Elliott]

As much as I hated it initially, I'm starting to think inverted scrolling makes more sense. I've still got it disabled, but I'm considering reenabling it - the more you use the multitouch gestures, the weirder it feels to not use inverter scrolling. Dunno if I'm the only one who's starting to feel that...

I've felt that way too. I turned off inverted scrolling and quickly found myself confused when trying to go back/forward in Safari and Launchpad. The "physical" aspect of the inverted scrolling make a lot of sense.

[protocol7]

Hmm how do you create a new folder in Launchpad?

[giantsnyy]

Hmm how do you create a new folder in Launchpad?

Same as iOS. Drag like Applications to each other.

[protocol7]

Ah cool :) I don't have any iOS stuff to know these things.

[divinatum]

Has anyone figured out what Apple is using SproutCore for?

It's in /usr/share/devicemgr/frontend/sproutcore/foundation/en/bd00593ce78606a22eed522b43cd5b6b951e5d9e/

[Daybreak]

Just one thing - with the rewrite to Finder, can we finally copy/paste files and merge folders?

[Elliott]

Just one thing - with the rewrite to Finder, can we finally copy/paste files and merge folders?

Merge folders, yes. Cut/paste, not sure. I'm not looking at my Lion installation right now.

[PyX]

Merge folders, yes. Cut/paste, not sure. I'm not looking at my Lion installation right now.

We still cannot cut/paste. :cry:

Worst is, I always go to use Command+X in the Finder and then realize "Oh wait, this doesn’t work in OS X".

I swear, the day they will implement it, I will have conditioned myself to use another method. Murphy’s law hates me real bad.

[Priceless90]

Don't tell me you expect the first Mac OS X Lion Developer Preview to be without its issues?

i do expect some issues of course...but on the wi-fi? must be some kind of joke.lol,seriously anyway to fix it?

[Priceless90]

the wi-fi still couldn't connect despite entering the right password it gives you connection time out...but after making sure the internet wi-fi DSN Server address and ip ,router is having the right information at first it finally connect but the speed is way too slower...what's happening !!!

[celticpride678]

i do expect some issues of course...but on the wi-fi? must be some kind of joke.lol,seriously anyway to fix it?

I'm going to be honest with you. I think that every single Mac OS X Developer Preview has had issues with Wi-Fi (Leopard, Snow Leopard, etc.)...they all have.

[Quillz]

Just one thing - with the rewrite to Finder, can we finally copy/paste files and merge folders?

Nope, there is no cut and paste.

i do expect some issues of course...but on the wi-fi? must be some kind of joke.lol,seriously anyway to fix it?

If you expect some issues, then why are you complaining? You're using a developer preview. Wi-Fi doesn't work for me when I wake up my MacBook... I have to physically turn off Wi-Fi, turn it back on and then reconnect. It's annoying but it's the price you pay for using unfinished software.

[Brian Miller]

Any new icons in Lion?