Mac OS X Lion Discussion

[Quillz]

What I don't get at all: Why is Apple using that horrible shade of brown for iCal in Mac OS X Lion when the iPad's Calendar app uses a much better tint? I mean, if they used the same brown for Lion as seen on the iPad it would actually be bearable. This looks just plain wrong.

But I completely agree with you and Simon. With Address Book and iCal they went a step too far. I can see insane people start to complain like crazy though and we'll end up getting a preferences to revert things back to a default Aqua look in v10.7.1. :laugh: Remember Mac OS X Leopard's insanely transparent contextual menus and translucent Menu Bar without an option to make it opaque?

I don't see why Apple even made such a toolbar change. iCal in DP1 worked exactly the same, functionally, which was a good thing, because it's a notoed improvement over the Snow Leopard version of iCal. This toolbar design is just so out-of-place and unnecessary. And I don't mean out of place in the way iTunes is, because at least iTunes does look sort of native, I mean just out-of-place in a bad way, like you've pointed out. I suspect Apple will be getting a number of bug reports about this "feature."

Two other minor changes I've noticed: Safari 5.1 now has the "speckled" look all the way from the toolbar to the tabs, and Address Book also seems to have gotten a very slight UI change to make it look even more like a book.

[.Neo]

For some reason the Graphite window control buttons don't really seem to match the rest of the graphite elements. The shade is off. :/ I'm nitpicking, fully aware of that. :p

[Quillz]

I noticed that too. I'm not sure if the actual hue has changed or if it's just because the traffic lights are now smaller than before. It does seem a bit out of place.

Safari 5.1's progress indicator also does not respect Graphite, although I don't recall if this was the case with Snow Leopard, as well.

[.Neo]

Safari's progress bar never respected Graphite.

[Quillz]

That's too bad, I wish it did.

So now we have Safari, iPhoto and iCal that use Aqua regardless of the system setting. It makes me wonder if Apple really is planning to remove Graphite entirely.

[revanmj]

This new iCal UI looks awful :(

[instant.human]

This new iCal UI looks awful :(

It really is... The real material-metaphor works (and even that only partly) on the iPad or anything touch-based but not on a Desktop-OS.

I mean it looks nice and all but eeewww....

[.Neo]

That's too bad, I wish it did.

So now we have Safari, iPhoto and iCal that use Aqua regardless of the system setting. It makes me wonder if Apple really is planning to remove Graphite entirely.

It's a bit too soon to draw conclusions when it comes to iCal don't you think? Probably just a bug. You're a dev, so report it to Apple.

[Quillz]

I don't think it's a bug, I believe it's by design. Considering it broke no functionality with iCal at all, I see it more as a UI experiment that may or may not make it into the next build. I have already submitted feedback regarding it, but if Apple is intending to bring more of an iOS feel into Mac OS X, then it will probably remain as is.

[.Neo]

I don't see what an iOS look has to do with the graphite preference.

[Quillz]

Oh, is that what you were talking about? I thought you were talking about the iCal toolbar look being a bug. I suspect Apple will be getting much negative feedback about that.

[.Neo]

No I meant the window widgets not turning graphite in iCal. Obviously the wooden toolbar is by design. :laugh:

[PyX]

Hey Nidoking, if you?re a developer and can submit bugs to them, I believe you can submit mine, which has been in OS X since the day they introduced Accessibility options :

And they haven?t fixed the issue where you can drag a window outside of the top boundary when zoomed in.

It?s something you don?t try often, so I can believe they missed it, but if you report while a new major version is in the works, I believe they will finally fix it.

The iCal bug will probably be fixed all along with iPhoto ?11 :p

[KoL Veteran]

Still downloading. Damn slow connection. :(

I think iCal is nice but textures are too strong.

[andrew_f]

I think the idea of theming applications iOS style for desktops sounds good on paper but it just looks like an inconsistent mis-mash of themes from something like "Windows 98 Plus!" if that was made in 2011. Not a fan.

[Hulos]

I for one like the new iCal toolbar. It does feel a bit odd though.

[Elliott]

I don't mind Apple getting creative (I'm one of the few that doesn't mind the new Address Book), but that iCal texture is just plain ugly. Tone it down and remove the stitching (seriously, we get the idea) and we might have a deal.

Looks like Launchpad does the iOS "wiggle" now when you're in move/remove mode and you can uninstall apps installed through the App Store through it. Still no clear way to remove apps you don't care about from it though (by clear I mean some way besides Control+Option+Command+click).

[Guest]

Can anyone upload the updated M.Fuji wallpaper please? =) thanks in advance!

EDIT: found it! http://cl.ly/3I371o1z0w003t371d0l

[painejake]

Can anyone upload the updated M.Fuji wallpaper please? =) thanks in advance!

EDIT: found it! http://cl.ly/3I371o1z0w003t371d0l

Thanks! :D

[Elliott]

I'll tell you what: even though it's currently indexing, it still feels faster than any OS X I've used before, and this is on a paltry 5400 RPM HDD.

[.Neo]

I don't mind Apple getting creative (I'm one of the few that doesn't mind the new Address Book), but that iCal texture is just plain ugly. Tone it down and remove the stitching (seriously, we get the idea) and we might have a deal.

Like I said before I really don't get why they didn't just use the same texture as the iPad. :/ It's a lot less in-your-face than what Apple uses right now for Lion. Black leather would have been nice as well. Basically everything would have been but this.

[Elliott]

Heh. I looked over at my Lion-running laptop to see how long Spotlight had left to reindex and found that Lion decided my dock needed pruning. :p Seems like a MobileMe incompatibility in Lion.

Edit: Definitely an incompatibility because now my Snow Leopard-running iMac's dock just practically went poof too. :laugh:

From about 15 apps to this:

[.Neo]

It's not a bug Elliott, it's Mac OS X Lion's new cleanup feature and you will enjoy it! (Or else...)

:laugh:

[Jan Veteran]

Oh god reminds me of XP's clean your desktop feature :x

[Elliott]

I filed a bug report about iCal. :laugh: