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usenet, hotfile, filesonic (god I hate that one), fileserve, Oron, megaupload.

Although these solutions may seem safer, they are too slow and inefficient compared to torrent unless you are willing to pay for their service. Torrent will always be free. If someone is worried about tampered files or the risk of being tracked, there are plenty of closed private torrent sites you can register for and use peerblock to get clean files and reduce that risk.

Also, hotfile.com just got sued by the MPAA yesterday and it won't be long before other sites are targeted as well. I doubt they will have any downtime, but I would expect that they will might be forced to make it ever harder to host certain files that people use these alternatives for.

Although these solutions may seem safer, they are too slow and inefficient compared to torrent unless you are willing to pay for their service. Torrent will always be free. If someone is worried about tampered files or the risk of being tracked, there are plenty of closed private torrent sites you can register for and use peerblock to get clean files and reduce that risk.

Also, hotfile.com just got sued by the MPAA yesterday and it won't be long before other sites are targeted as well. I doubt they will have any downtime, but I would expect that they will might be forced to make it ever harder to host certain files that people use these alternatives for.

Ha! $5-$10/month will get you a usenet provider account with 800+ days of retention and an encrypted connection. You'll max your connection speed as well.

Torrents are ass, plain and simple. It's a no brainer really.

People still use torrents? What am I saying, I still have to clean up frostwire viruses off people's computers.

I thought everyone in the know was using file hosting services these days though. Torrents will get you in trouble. :laugh:

the majority of people who use Frostwire and other apps like that are stupid, will download anything and are oblivious to consequences until it slows the download of a ****ty hip-hop song

The problem I have with TorrentFreak is that it's always pro-piracy and constantly pointing out mistakes made by copyright laywers and RIAA...

You need two to play the game.

Just like we have Microsoft/Apple on one side of the spectrum, and Richard Stallman to bring the balance by being on the extreme other side. :)

Usenet/newsgroup seems to be the way to go at the moment it seems esp with vpn connections but as soon as everyone turns to it (like they have done with rapidshare/hotfile) then it will be targeted.

Companies have tried in the past to target usenet, but it is far more difficult because you can only do something about the people posting (and even then, they must be posting from a news server and an ISP that both are willing to cooperate with the authorities). Not much has changed with usenet in the past couple of decades that would make it easier on companies to target it, and some things (such as VPNs and encrypted connections) actually make it harder. In short, companies have long since lost that battle, which is why they started focusing on P2P, file hosting sites, etc.

Expendables got a solid 6.7 on IMDB:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1320253/

Not a masterpiece, but hardly "crap".

Anyone who uses their brains is unlikely to think that a movie starring Stallone, Statham, Lundgren, Li, Couture etc. is going to be some sort of amazing revelation of a movie. I call bullsh*t on anyone who didn't know beforehand what they were getting with this movie.

So it all boils down to this: people pirated it because they could. Please don't fill this thread with other excuses, just say "I pirated it because I could".

Ha! $5-$10/month will get you a usenet provider account with 800+ days of retention and an encrypted connection. You'll max your connection speed as well.

Torrents are ass, plain and simple. It's a no brainer really.

Gee, I didn't know that paying for a service gets you better results. Of course it will. But it is not like I, or majority of file downloaders, want to pay $60+ a year when free alternatives exists. And of those free alternatives, sites like hotfile, rapidshare, and megaupload gives horrible speeds and wait times compared to most torrents. Then again, you get what you pay for.

If you are looking for an old file, then torrents can be hassle compared to file sites or usenet that have longer download life. I hardly have any trouble finding what I want when it comes to newly released content uploaded by trusted sources and abundant number of seeders to max out my connection. For my purposes, it is more than sufficient and I would rather spend the money elsewhere.

His hair plugs stayed in the entire movie.

It's amazing what they can clean up with digital effects. I actually had thought Stallone was dead so it was a surprise to see a preview for that film several months ago. You just wonder when they'll start resurrecting dead famous actors with digital skin wraps on other no-name actors like in Avatar.

Well, I checked around and one of my buddies uses a Usenet thing called

Astraweb. He let me check it out... it's worthless. I don't see how he's

paying a monthly fee to get encrypted RAR files with the wrong or no

password information, or just mislabled and trojan-ridden files. It's no

wonder people stick with Torrents.

Well, I checked around and one of my buddies uses a Usenet thing called

Astraweb. He let me check it out... it's worthless. I don't see how he's

paying a monthly fee to get encrypted RAR files with the wrong or no

password information, or just mislabled and trojan-ridden files. It's no

wonder people stick with Torrents.

That's cause you gotta pay attention to what you're doing it's no worse than any other p2p client.

No, they will never learn... when will they just ditch the lawsuits and start implementing a system with torrents... release bad copies of it, if a person likes it, they'll end up getting a hard copy that has far superior quality. Get it? Pretty simple entertainment industry.

It's the lawyers driving these new lawsuits, not the industry. Most of the lawsuits are coming from porn distributors and the rest are studios that aren't MPAA members.

The lawyers are just looking for easy money and it looks like they're going to get it.

No, they will never learn... when will they just ditch the lawsuits and start implementing a system with torrents... release bad copies of it, if a person likes it, they'll end up getting a hard copy that has far superior quality. Get it? Pretty simple entertainment industry.

I thought this about Music. If I try a CD or even singles and like the songs I've heard. I go buy a hard copy or pay the $10 on iTunes to OWN the songs. I just don't see the MPAA/Lawyers/RIAA understanding that or letting that be the case.

You know, i blame the stupid sense of entitlement these dim bulbs have, and yes, now they have a lawsuit to go with the download. Serves them right, hey, considering dvd rentals are like $1 these days.

...rent, rip, return. :shiftyninja:

Well, I checked around and one of my buddies uses a Usenet thing called

Astraweb. He let me check it out... it's worthless. I don't see how he's

paying a monthly fee to get encrypted RAR files with the wrong or no

password information, or just mislabled and trojan-ridden files. It's no

wonder people stick with Torrents.

LMAO

Oh...you're being serious. $10 says you didn't even bother to learn how usenet even works. Another $10 says you probably have no idea what NZB files are. Tack on another $10 simply because only the uneducated bother with passworded files.

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