D90 and D500 owners look here

[remus_lupin]

Hey, just wanted to let you know Nikon recently released a firmware update for D90's and D5000's :)

http://support.nikonusa.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/17162/session/L2F2LzEvdGltZS8xMjk4MDg3Mjc0L3NpZC9aUURyLVptaw%3D%3D

[Mr. Chronopoulos]

Good deal, thanks for the heads up!

2 questions though.

1, what will this change?

2, how do I install it? :p

[remus_lupin]

Good deal, thanks for the heads up!

2 questions though.

1, what will this change?

2, how do I install it? :p

1. I am not ENTIRELY sure... it's supposed to help with distortion somehow... it was just released yesterday so I am going to wait a week to see what people on the web say!!

2. follow this: http://nikonimglib.com/dcdata/manual/En/lensprofile_win_en_ABF.html

Edit: I did install it myself just 10 minutes ago, but I haven't seen any differences, but I only shot like two pics in my bedroom....

here is a quote I found: "The Distortion Control Data firmware upgrade is available for Nikon D90 and D5000 cameras only. This is used to correct barrel and pincushion distortion during shooting and editing.”

I was hoping for a significant update... but I guess there won't ever be one as the D90 is almost phased out.... although idk what they could possibly improve over a firmware update :p

[Mr. Chronopoulos]

the D90 is almost phased out

Whaaaaaat?! It better not! I just got mine a few months ago. :(

[remus_lupin]

Whaaaaaat?! It better not! I just got mine a few months ago. :(

... lol what difference does it make if it's "phased out" or not? :p I didn't think it was a big deal... doesn't that just mean there is a replacement and you can no longer buy it?

You already have one, so who cares if its gone? :p

Isn't the D7000 it's replacement? Which means that, since it's replacement is out it should be discontinued shortly?

Edit: I guess technically the D7000 didn't replace it seeing as there is still three cameras in the Advanced category... But it's almost at the three year mark, so it will probably be replaced this coming August

[crazzy88ss]

ZOMG yet they can't upgrade the video at all :/

Whaaaaaat?! It better not! I just got mine a few months ago. :(

Way to pay attention to product life cycles... lol D90's been around since mid 2008.

And what remus said, who cares if you like it? I've had it since launch and I'm still fairly happy w/ it :)

[Draconian Guppy]

Way to complicated :/

[remus_lupin]

ZOMG yet they can't upgrade the video at all :/

The whole "rolling stutter" thing I read way back when that it was HIGHLY unlikely (if even possible) that they'd upgrade the video... that's one of the downsides to getting the first DSLR that supported "HD" video, I didn't buy it for that anyway so doesn't bother me TOO much, would be nice though, as I have taken a few short clips here and there

[qdave]

Edit: I guess technically the D7000 didn't replace it seeing as there is still three cameras in the Advanced category... But it's almost at the three year mark, so it will probably be replaced this coming August

Good things dont get outdated :D

Anyway this update process looks difficult, and since i have no probs with current firmware i guess i will just stick with it :p

[remus_lupin]

Good things dont get outdated :D

Anyway this update process looks difficult, and since i have no probs with current firmware i guess i will just stick with it :p

lol yeah, it's not necessary... but it's insanely easy to do? literally took me 30 seconds LOL...

All you do is download it... extract it... then copy the one file to your memory card... then go to "firmware" in the camera then click "update" done.

The step-by-step guide is just extremely tedious and makes it seem like it takes longer than it does, I didn't even need it, figured it out quickly, it's just for those who NEED to know step by step... e.g. right click here. lol

[crazzy88ss]

The whole "rolling stutter" thing I read way back when that it was HIGHLY unlikely (if even possible) that they'd upgrade the video... that's one of the downsides to getting the first DSLR that supported "HD" video, I didn't buy it for that anyway so doesn't bother me TOO much, would be nice though, as I have taken a few short clips here and there

Well there's that too, but I was also thinking how hard was it to upgrade to 1080 and something other than 24fps? Is that really limited by hardware or what?

[remus_lupin]

Well there's that too, but I was also thinking how hard was it to upgrade to 1080 and something other than 24fps? Is that really limited by hardware or what?

TBH idk, it might be? Maybe the sensor just wasn't designed for that...but even if it was, I doubt they would do it at this stage of the game, if you want 1080p (and by you I mean consumers) your gonna have to buy their D7000 or other new model. D90 is old news, they are just focusing on the new and upcoming models.

[crazzy88ss]

Well I never expected it now that they've ignored it for nearly 3 years lol

[Simon_]

Well there's that too, but I was also thinking how hard was it to upgrade to 1080 and something other than 24fps? Is that really limited by hardware or what?

Yeah it is. Apparently Expeed 1 wasn't up to the task of 1080, where as the new expeed2 in the d7000 is a lot faster.

[witalit]

So the D7000 is worthy of purchasing? I currently have a D40 but looking for something with additional features and preferably got HD video.. looked at the D3100 not too keen on that. Want something thats a worthy upgrade, more semi-pro.

[Argote]

So the D7000 is worthy of purchasing? I currently have a D40 but looking for something with additional features and preferably got HD video.. looked at the D3100 not too keen on that. Want something thats a worthy upgrade, more semi-pro.

The D7000 is apparently one of the best cameras Nikon has released in quite some time. It is currently second only to the Pentax K-5 in image quality (in APS-C cameras and by a close margin, the Sony A580 is third, also by a close margin).

[HawkMan]

So the D7000 is worthy of purchasing? I currently have a D40 but looking for something with additional features and preferably got HD video.. looked at the D3100 not too keen on that. Want something thats a worthy upgrade, more semi-pro.

yeah, the 3100 is just a newer version of your 40. the 5000 (5100?) would be a slight upgrade with some nice features) but I'd definately suggest the 7000 if you can afford it. I have a 90 myself, and I went from a D40.

[witalit]

yeah, the 3100 is just a newer version of your 40. the 5000 (5100?) would be a slight upgrade with some nice features) but I'd definately suggest the 7000 if you can afford it. I have a 90 myself, and I went from a D40.

Sweet so I know not to bother with the 3100.. I am stuck between D90 and D7000. One costs more but is far superior feature/technology wise. On the other hand D90 a massive upgrade from the basic D40 which I feel very limited by now. Oh what to dooooo! If I can get a cheap D90 body I will stick with that!!

[HawkMan]

a cheap D90 is still a great camera, sure the 7000 is better, but I'm not sure I'd say it's that much better it warrants the price difference.

unless you're really going to use it for filming, but you're not, cause no matter how good the DSLR's are at filming they're still horrible to use for it, at least without buying a shoulder frame that costs even more than the camera. and besides the D90 can, unlike what the haters say, make some really nice film, as long as it's no dark you won't even see the rolling shutter.

[Argote]

yeah, the 3100 is just a newer version of your 40. the 5000 (5100?) would be a slight upgrade with some nice features) but I'd definately suggest the 7000 if you can afford it. I have a 90 myself, and I went from a D40.

Isn't the Image quality in the D3100 a significant upgrade from the D3000 (which was like a D60 and slightly better than a D40)?

[HawkMan]

not sure about the 3000, and it depends on what you mean by image quality.

the sensor generally gets better. the D40 also had an upgrade, they did a significan't sensor resolution upgrade for the D40x, and the 3000 I believe replaced both the 40 and 60, thoguh arguably the 5000 is the 60 replacement.

[Argote]

not sure about the 3000, and it depends on what you mean by image quality.

the sensor generally gets better. the D40 also had an upgrade, they did a significan't sensor resolution upgrade for the D40x, and the 3000 I believe replaced both the 40 and 60, thoguh arguably the 5000 is the 60 replacement.

Well, yes, the D5000 took the D60's position on the market, however the D3000 was basically a re-badged D60 aimed at the entry-level market.

On the D3100 they moved from a CCD to a CMOS sensor and made other improvements as well.

[witalit]

Well, yes, the D5000 took the D60's position on the market, however the D3000 was basically a re-badged D60 aimed at the entry-level market.

On the D3100 they moved from a CCD to a CMOS sensor and made other improvements as well.

I have done a comparison on DP Review between the D90 & D7000. Seems the only significant differences I can see stat wise are:

D7000:

Higher Megapixels

Higher ISO Limit upto 25,600 with Boost

Newer focus system - Nikon Multi-CAM4800 DX

39 focus points compared to 11

Advanced metering

Newer battery

6fps

Thats all I can see from the comparison, would anyone say this is worth the extra cash? Oh of course there is some aesthetic changes to the camera also. I need a cheap D90.. looks like I have to spend at least £450 just for a body! Need a second hand one.

[Mr. Chronopoulos]

I need a cheap D90.. looks like I have to spend at least £450 just for a body! Need a second hand one.

I'll sell you mine. I've been looking at the D7000 or something a little better. Make an offer. :p

[witalit]

I'll sell you mine. I've been looking at the D7000 or something a little better. Make an offer. :p

Looks like the going price for second hand D90's is 350-450.. Im looking for cheaper :-D. What are you after?