+Frank B. Subscriber² Posted February 23, 2011 Subscriber² Share Posted February 23, 2011 Apple's Light Peak implementation called Thunderbolt, coming in new MacBook Pros? The rumor gears are really starting to churn with regard Apple's upcoming MacBook Pro refresh and now we have a purported leak of the upcoming spec sheet for the new 13-inch model. The highlight is a note (and image, above) seemingly confirming that Apple will implement Intel's Light Peak high-speed interconnect, renaming it the Thunderbolt. Yes, we know there's an HTC handset headed to Verizon with that very same name -- and we've checked the USPTO archives, Verizon's the only tech company with any trademark claim filed for "Thunderbolt" -- but Apple has done weirder things before. Also notable are the apparent inclusion of an SDXC card reader and the absence of a discrete GPU chip, indicating that perhaps the new Core i5 integrated graphics from Intel are finally good enough to convince Cupertino to rely on them full time. Jump past the break to see the full data sheet. Update: We now have an image claiming to show the new Thunderbolt port, which happens to look exactly like the Mini DisplayPort but has a tidy little lightning logo next to it. That's extremely easy to Photoshop, as is the accompanying photo displaying a broader trackpad on the MBP, but we'll let you judge the validity of those images for yourself. Check them out after the break. Source: Engadget Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saxondale. Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 That'll be cool if they double up the mini display port, so it was "thunderbolt" too, but i guess that won't fly with people that use external monitors :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giga Veteran Posted February 23, 2011 Veteran Share Posted February 23, 2011 That's a mini dp connector and the 2009 MBP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GauravAgr Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Thunderbolt is not a name, that Apple will go for but you never know. Also, no dedicated graphic card? Intel's inbuilt is good only for HD playback or old games, but there aren't good /graphic-intensive mac games anyway. Thing that matters is that it's good enough of Angry Birds :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vice Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Makes no sense for them to use the Display Port connector for it when they have USB instead that even Intel has shown with LightPeak integrated. Display Port would just create confusion and I believe for that reason these images to be faked. MightyJordan and Tech Star 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GauravAgr Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 I also think USB or e-Sata should be used, because there are already too many ports, no need for a new port. Also Technology will die if it's limited to Apple, using USB port will make it easier to implement on a PC. Last thing we want is different ports for same technology (light peak) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Veteran Posted February 23, 2011 Veteran Share Posted February 23, 2011 Thunderbolt is not a name, that Apple will go for but you never know. Also, no dedicated graphic card? Intel's inbuilt is good only for HD playback or old games, but there aren't good /graphic-intensive mac games anyway. Thing that matters is that it's good enough of Angry Birds :D Really? They chose Mission Control as a name for one of their apps - MISSION CONTROL :wacko: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
game_over Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 i was hoping for faster/bigger hard drives. fingers crossed for the 15" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Neo Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 To me it also makes no sense for Apple to use the mini-DisplayPort connector for LightPeak if they can also use the USB ports with backward compatibility to USB 1.1 and USB 2.0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason S. Global Moderator Posted February 23, 2011 Global Moderator Share Posted February 23, 2011 i call shenanigans on the physical port - the codename might be true, but who cares about a codename? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saxondale. Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 macrumors are confirming this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digitalx Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 do we really need another firewire ? :blink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Neo Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Really doubtful LightPeak (Thunderbolt) will become a huge success in that case unless they find some way to get the PC world on board as well, which to me seems unlikely to happen. Looks like we have a new FireWire on our hands... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saxondale. Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Really doubtful LightPeak (Thunderbolt) will become a huge success in that case unless they find some way to get the PC world on board as well, which to me seems unlikely to happen. Looks like we have a new FireWire on our hands... I agree, it's going to be for a niche market. At least it's been implemented, perhaps not in the best way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Neo Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 What an unbelievably poor design decision on Apple's part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saxondale. Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 i wonder if you can split the port to allow for a display and a light peak device, since i'm assuming it's geared towards the pro market (editors, musicians etc), who will want to use external displays as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Neo Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 i wonder if you can split the port to allow for a display and a light peak device, since i'm assuming it's geared towards the pro market (editors, musicians etc), who will want to use external displays as well. I really can't get over how incredibly stupid this is if it turns out to be true. Now you have to share a single port for both video input/output AND external storage (for example) requiring even more adapters, splitters and whatnot. I really wonder how this going to play out in daily life as absolutely nothing about this seems very practical. Not to mention the lack of USB 3.0 support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vice Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Really doubtful LightPeak (Thunderbolt) will become a huge success in that case unless they find some way to get the PC world on board as well, which to me seems unlikely to happen. Looks like we have a new FireWire on our hands... That's a great point. I'm 100% certain that PC makers will integrate Lightpeak with USB ports which would leave it completely incompatible with Apples Mini-Display port implementation. I still doubt these 'leaks' are real even if Mac Rumors does have confirmation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyLarry Veteran Posted February 23, 2011 Veteran Share Posted February 23, 2011 Tomorrow I get to order my macbook pro for work, was going to order one last week but once I realized new ones were supposed to come out tomorrow I decided to wait, and since I will also be able to use for personal use, I am definitely curious to see if this rumor winds up being true or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
instant.human Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 Really, I don't think so... I mean look at the resolution of the 13" display... Even the MBA 11" has a higher res, I was at least thinking the 13" MBA-res would be standard for the 13" MBP... And the Light Peak-thing... I don't know... Let's just hope it's a fake by someone who knows how to fake but is not very tech savvy. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahhell Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 What a terrible name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 So far this is pushing me towards the 13" MBA... we'll see the specs of the 15" and then I'll decide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Neo Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 That's a great point. I'm 100% certain that PC makers will integrate Lightpeak with USB ports which would leave it completely incompatible with Apples Mini-Display port implementation. You would require an adapter similar to one from FireWire 800 to 400 I imagine to make Apple's connector compatible with a standard Light Peak "USB" plug. That is with Intel will still go with the USB design. Intel did always say that Light Peak could be scaled down to a much smaller plug than USB without sacrificing functionality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+virtorio MVC Posted February 23, 2011 MVC Share Posted February 23, 2011 Hmmm. Low-res screen, odd ball implementation of Intel's big new technology, no noted trademarks or anything from Apple to do with Thunderbolt. It probably is true, but I have my doubts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Neo Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 More detailed picture: http://www.macrumors.com/2011/02/23/closer-look-photo-of-thunderbolt-light-peak-port/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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